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12-05-2003, 11:17 AM
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Islanders need Cujo (proposal)

IMHO

How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th

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IMHO

How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th
I would suggest looking for a friendly bunker.

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IMHO

How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th
wow thats bad.
even with 6 mil, that would be 5M a year for cujo, plus a top-3 defenseman, and 2 picks?

closer would be cujo + 6mil for a 4th. still wouldn't happen.

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IMHO

How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th
Wow, what a rip off for the Islanders..

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How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th

Cujo will make $8m next yr and the nyi will be on the hook for all of it.

They'll also have key rfa defensemen Aucoin+Hamrlik looking for new deals.

Because Niinimaa's the youngest and furthest from being a ufa,he'd be the last of the top 4 dealt.

I don't think the isles would make this deal if you substituted one of their older top 4 D.

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Joseph just cleared waivers. no one wants him. why the hell would the Isles trade Niinimaa, a 2nd, and a 4th for something no one wants?

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Oh my, that's a bad deal! Quite possibly the worst I've read on these boards, and I've seen some jokes recently!

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The Isles need a new GM, not Cujo

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How about Cujo + 6mil for Niinimma + 2nd and 4th
if detroit picks up 6 million EACH YEAR, i think they may be able to score niinimaa. i wouldn't do it, but who knows with milbury. more likely would be the 2nd and 4th rounder.

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Oh my, that's a bad deal! Quite possibly the worst I've read on these boards, and I've seen some jokes recently!

All right, no offense taken. Just threw something out there. Actually, don't know much about the Iles, but I have DiPietro on a fantasy team and after a fast start, he's been pretty bad lately. I know the whole team's in a slump, so I can see Cujo being a better option now than he was before. I also don't think the waivers matters since any team that would acquire him would want some salary paid. So on to a possible (not likely) deal:

Cujo + 6mil (Wings have already paid 2 so that leaves 8mil for the rest of this year and next year)

for

Hamrlik (can have Woolley or Dandenault in return as well)
OR
2nd

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All right, no offense taken. Just threw something out there. Actually, don't know much about the Iles, but I have DiPietro on a fantasy team and after a fast start, he's been pretty bad lately. I know the whole team's in a slump, so I can see Cujo being a better option now than he was before. I also don't think the waivers matters since any team that would acquire him would want some salary paid. So on to a possible (not likely) deal:

Cujo + 6mil (Wings have already paid 2 so that leaves 8mil for the rest of this year and next year)

for

Hamrlik (can have Woolley or Dandenault in return as well)
OR
2nd

The Isles are not interested in Cujo and Det. is not getting Hamrlik or any other Islander dman for Cujo. End of story.

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Hamrlik (can have Woolley or Dandenault in return as well)
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2nd
Hamrlik or a 2nd? wow, what an option!

dude, Hamrlik is worth way more than a 2nd rounder. granted, CuJo and $6 million/year might get you a 2nd, so that's the first thing you did right in this thread. mind you, it probably wouldn't get you the Isles 2nd rounder, cuz it's lookin to be a high one.

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Hamrlik (can have Woolley or Dandenault in return as well)
OR
2nd
Tell you what, the Leafs will give you that second for Hamrlik which you can give to Detroit for Cujo. Hell, it's Friday, I'm feeling generous, we'll even toss in a fourth to sweeten the deal for the Isles and everyone comes out happy. Right?

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Hamrlik or a 2nd? wow, what an option!

dude, Hamrlik is worth way more than a 2nd rounder. granted, CuJo and $6 million/year might get you a 2nd, so that's the first thing you did right in this thread. mind you, it probably wouldn't get you the Isles 2nd rounder, cuz it's lookin to be a high one.

Well, two options for two kinds of people... those who can't separate proposals on a rumor board from real life and those who can. So if the Iles pick is a good one (which was the point) are they different or aren't they? I don't think the Wings "need" a D-man as much as the Iles "need" a goalie. Call me crazy, but I'd hate to see Dipietro become overwhelmed. And although Snow is more than servicable, the Iles may need to make improve soon to save people's jobs.


Someone mentioned the Iles need a new GM more than anything and I wholeheartedly agree, but if he's gonna have a firesale, people will line up. And sorry, but a goalie is the quickest/easiest way to plug a sinking ship and no one's more available (who is capable) than Cujo.

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Tell you what, the Leafs will give you that second for Hamrlik which you can give to Detroit for Cujo. Hell, it's Friday, I'm feeling generous, we'll even toss in a fourth to sweeten the deal for the Isles and everyone comes out happy. Right?

Huh? Second OR Hamrlik, not second FOR Hamrlik.

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Basically, dude, the whole thread is ridiculous, and I think you know that.

Dipietro has badly outplayed Cujo for most of the year. The Rick was NHL's defensive player of the month a little earlier in the year. He has had too bad games in a row, true. But, that hardly makes it likely that the Isles are going to relegate him to backup and go with has been Cujo. Just a small part of the problem with this thread is that Cujo isn't an improvement beyond what the Isles already have.

The second problem with this thread is that is more than a little unrealistic to expect to get Hamrlik or anybody like that in return for Cujo. That is just plain silly, to be perfectly frank.

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Joseph just cleared waivers. no one wants him. why the hell would the Isles trade Niinimaa, a 2nd, and a 4th for something no one wants?
I'm curious what evidence you have to support your claim that no one wants Joseph. Him passing through waivers means that no team wants him at $8M per season. NOTHING MORE. Why is this so hard for some of you to comprehend?

 
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Joseph just cleared waivers. no one wants him. why the hell would the Isles trade Niinimaa, a 2nd, and a 4th for something no one wants?
Of course the Isles wouldn't do this deal, but your logic is way off. Cujo cleared waivers because of his astronomical 8 mil/yr salary. But if the 6 mil was part of the return, slashing the contract by 1/3, the Isles wouldn't be trading Niinimaa and 2 picks for the "waiver-clearly" Cujo but rather for Cujo at a discount price. Thus, this is not the same Cujo that noone wanted. The 6 mil makes the deal bad rather than disgraceful.

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Tell you what, the Leafs will give you that second for Hamrlik which you can give to Detroit for Cujo. Hell, it's Friday, I'm feeling generous, we'll even toss in a fourth to sweeten the deal for the Isles and everyone comes out happy. Right?
Dar, we don't have a 2nd

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I'm curious what evidence you have to support your claim that no one wants Joseph. Him passing through waivers means that no team wants him at $8M per season. NOTHING MORE. Why is this so hard for some of you to comprehend?
On the flipside of that, if someone wanted him badly enough, they would have had him by now.

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Even if it is a bad proposal, this is Milbury we're talking about here.

For Detroit to get the Isles to take Cujo, Detroit would have to take on Peca + perhaps salary some Cujo's salary for next year and probably another player or two each way.

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On the flipside of that, if someone wanted him badly enough, they would have had him by now.
Which is exactly what he was saying- no one wants Cujo at 8M a year as they could have had him for nothing via waivers.

Someone may well want him if they could get Detroit to discount his salary though...

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Which is exactly what he was saying- no one wants Cujo at 8M a year as they could have had him for nothing via waivers.

Someone may well want him if they could get Detroit to discount his salary though...
That is what I am saying. If someone wanted CuJo bad enough, they would work out a deal where Detroit would pay part of his salary.

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