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01-29-2007, 02:42 PM
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In the last 20 years or so these average goaltenders all are engraved:

Cam Ward (uncertain at this point)
Chris Osgood
Mike Vernon
Tom Barrasso
Bill Ranford
You mistaken talent with performance. Talent is an ability to acquire skills. Therefore hard work may equal it (often with longer time). I meant statistical middle of NHL when I mentioned "average". No way I judged the talent here.
Your list are not top talent Gs (I consider Barrasso a talent, though). But they worked hard those seasons and were statistically better than average throughout NHL.
I do not think Lundqvist (incredible talent) worked hard this season. He is on the bottom of the NHL list. If he did, we would have had a better results (unless he is injured or something else is lingering there). May be he saves his performance for the spring. In this case I will publicly apologize at this forum.
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It is far tougher to be a good defenseman with the new rules than before. No more clutching and grabbing to cover up mistakes.
Exactly. This is why it is harder to influence the result with small improvement that would require a huge effort under new conditions.. Only premium Ds could make a difference. For goalie the margin is less. Above league average may do it.

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It's obvious from a lot of your posts that you either have a problem with goaltenders in general, or more likely, a problem with Lundqvist.

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Originally Posted by TheChief View Post
These two were the only average goalies
Mike Vernon was decidedly average for the most part. Hell, even below average. He did have the good runs that resulted in some cups, can't take that away from him, but over his career...look at his numbers and tell me that doesn't scream average.

If anything, I'd use him as proof that you can be an average goalie for the most part and have a hot streak and a good team carry you to a cup.

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Goalie stats since X-mas

Dec 26 @NYI Lost 0-2
Dec 29 @OTT Lost 0-1
Dec 30 WAS Won 4-1
Jan 2 @NJ Won 3-2 (OT)
Jan 4 PHI Won 3-2
Jan 6 @MON Won 4-3
Jan 9 NYI Lost 3-5
Jan 11 OTT Lost 4-6
Jan 13 BOS Won 3-1
Jan 16 @NJ Lost 0-1
Jan 20 ATL Lost 1-3
Jan 27 @PHI Won 2-1
Jan 29 @BOS Won 6-1
Jan 31 TOR Lost 1-2

14 Games played
Won 7 - Lost 7 (4W + 3L in crucial one goal games)
Goals scored - 34 (2.42 goals per game)
Goals against - 32 (5 w K weekes in goal + 2 empty net goals)
The Rangers have been shot out - 3 times
The Rangers have scored one goal - 2 times
Blowouts (let in more than 3 goals) - 1 time (2 including the Jan 11 loss vs Ottawa where K Weekes let in 5 goals 1st 2 periods)
The win loss statistics have therefore been seriously suffering due to lack of goalscoring in at least 5 games. It is very difficult (its possible though) for goalies to get wins when your team scores 1 or 0 goals. This being said - it basically negates 5 losses + the Ottawa game where NYR was hopelessly behind when he came in (he got the loss though)

Goals allowed - 25 (+ 2 empty net goals)
Periods played - 40
GAA - 1.88
Shots on goal - 360
Saves - 335
Save % - 0,931

This is the updated info.
The boy is HOT
He should be NHL goalie of the month - were it not for the lousy won-lost stats

Leagueleading goalie stats ALLYEAR in NHL are:
1. D. Hasek DET 2.03
2. N. Backstrom MIN 2.08
3. M. Brodeur NJ 2.08
4. J. Giguere ANA 2.10
5. V. Toskala SJ 2.22

Save %
1. C. Mason NSH .929
2. N. Backstrom MIN .927
3. J. Giguere ANA .926
4. M. Brodeur NJ .926
5. M. Kiprusoff CGY .924

I know the stats for HL before X-mas were quite different though

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You do not need any stats to see a confident netminder out there. Way to go Henke!! Keep up good work!!!

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