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02-01-2007, 03:59 PM
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Boston just traded Jurcina to the Caps for a fourth.So Boyes won't cost much

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Boston just traded Jurcina to the Caps for a fourth.So Boyes won't cost much
Immonen and a 3rd should be plenty. Sather, wake up!

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The Boyes cap # is $1.5 million and he is signed for next season.His entire salary next season is slightly more than what the China Doll in Philly will make the rest of this season(the remaining 40 days after the trading deadline)

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Get him Slats you moron!

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Boston just traded Jurcina to the Caps for a fourth.So Boyes won't cost much
Crazy. I've always liked Jurcina. I would have given a fourth for him.

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Get him Slats you moron!
Sorry, his cell gets bad reception on the 17th hole at the Banff Country Club

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02-01-2007, 04:28 PM
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Sorry, his cell gets bad reception on the 17th hole at the Banff Country Club
It's too cold to play golf in Banff right now.Slats is on the back 9 somewhere in Palm Springs

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02-01-2007, 04:30 PM
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It's too cold to play golf in Banff right now.Slats is on the back 9 somewhere in Palm Springs
Haha, well played...honestly though Rangerboy, any recent reports suggesting he is not in NY...?

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02-01-2007, 07:30 PM
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Get him than go out and grab Horton.

Second line, move Prucha to the third with Cullen and Ward.

In both deals you give up some younger talent but you've also added a 24 year old and 21 year old forward.

I can dream can't I?

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02-01-2007, 08:53 PM
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haha you'd have to sell the farm for horton, assuming florida doesnt *****slap you immediately for even mentioning his name.

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02-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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haha you'd have to sell the farm for horton, assuming florida doesnt *****slap you immediately for even mentioning his name.
Well he wants out and is a RFA in the summer, so if he really isn't happy he will just sit out. So they might as well move him now when they have the upper hand in the deal instead of after the season and he states he wont resign with Florida.

Montoya, another prospect and a 1st should do it.

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02-01-2007, 09:50 PM
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honestly, i rather keep the 1st and monty over horton...

imo sutter (i can hope) + monty >>> horton in a few years....

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Boyes played well tonight, didn't register a point, but had energy AND....fought Tony Lydman, as well as the TKO IMO...

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Boyes played well tonight, didn't register a point, but had energy AND....fought Tony Lydman, as well as the TKO IMO...
Exactly what we need. Someone to stick up for our guys but can actually score. Like I had said before, he reminds me exactly of Shanahan.

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honestly, i rather keep the 1st and monty over horton...

imo sutter (i can hope) + monty >>> horton in a few years....
Problem with prospects is that the possibilities are usually a lot better than the results.

Horton is already an NHL player.

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I still have a hard time understanding why Boston would move Boyes.

And I have an even harder time picturing Florida moving Horton.

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I still have a hard time understanding why Boston would move Boyes.

And I have an even harder time picturing Florida moving Horton.
its the same as picturing the rangers moving Prucha

and i agree. its ridiculous, but hey if Boyes is availabe, better for us

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02-02-2007, 10:48 AM
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I still have a hard time understanding why Boston would move Boyes.

And I have an even harder time picturing Florida moving Horton.
What about Toronto? Or San Jose? Now the Bruins?

I don't know why these teams keep moving Boyes, but there must be something to all the moving around.

On that note, Lundmark scored his first goal of the season for LA last night

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Not a chance. You're really overrating our prospects.
You're entitled to your opinion.

I see two players that have quickly fallen out of favour with Boston. One of which is a UFA that has no intention of re-signing and hence will be lost for nothing. The other, has rumoured attitude and consistency issues while playing a position that they have a tremendous amount of depth at.

Boston has little leverage here. Baranka and Dawes are two quality prospects and that brings you a lot closer to the center of the deal than you'd think. If those to kids do not close it you're only looking at another marginal roster player or pick - certainly not two high draft picks.

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02-02-2007, 11:32 AM
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I think +/- is very deceiving. For a defenseman, if they are a plus, it's usually because of the forwards on the ice with them, nothing special that d-man did. The minus however might be a more telling stat, but remember that in each game only 6 d-men and 12 forwards dress, so in theory each d-man is on the ice for more goals for and against than any forward, in fact strictly numberwise it's a 2:1 ratio.

Stuart being a -19 is a function of how mediocre the Bruins are, and could be who he's paired with. If he's killing penalties, he's going to get minuses whenever his team gives up a PPG, and with the league's crackdown on stick fouls, there are more PPs and therefore more PPGs.
PPGs don't count as pluses or minuses, so if Stuart were to be on the ice for a PPG, he wouldn't get a minus. +/- strictly refers to even strength scoring.

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What about Toronto? Or San Jose? Now the Bruins?

I don't know why these teams keep moving Boyes, but there must be something to all the moving around.

On that note, Lundmark scored his first goal of the season for LA last night

Toronto moving him makes a little sense since it was part of a prospects for a proven vet deal. San Jose giving him up for Jillson is perplexing though.

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The more old and new rumors i hear, the more im convinced that Boyes is the best way to go.
He offers the best package short term and long term for this team. He can play wing which is huge if one of our center prospects makes the squad next year (Dubinsky).

And if the Rangers are gonna give up a high pick of any sort and or a high level prospect for any of the other mentioned out there, ill feel cheated out of another huge option lying on the table. I really hope the Rangers come through on this.

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The more old and new rumors i hear, the more im convinced that Boyes is the best way to go.
He offers the best package short term and long term for this team. He can play wing which is huge if one of our center prospects makes the squad next year (Dubinsky).

And if the Rangers are gonna give up a high pick of any sort and or a high level prospect for any of the other mentioned out there, ill feel cheated out of another huge option lying on the table. I really hope the Rangers come through on this.
I'd rather give up Immonen and a 2nd or 3rd Rounder for Boyes above any of these other centerman options.

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jarko and a 2nd is overpayment

give them jarko and heilman for boyes

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Get him than go out and grab Horton.

Second line, move Prucha to the third with Cullen and Ward.

In both deals you give up some younger talent but you've also added a 24 year old and 21 year old forward.

I can dream can't I?
I don't recall authorizing any dreaming on your poart.

The problem is that it probably takes Montoya, Prucha + to get Horton...which is ok because I'd still pull the trigger (I love Horton and if I've got a chance at him I'm gonna pull out all the stops.) But Prucha's not moving to the third line in that senario. It's also unlikely that Florida would move Horton untill after the season, as it makes no sense to move him at the deadline when many of the teams that would be interested in his services (rebuilding, developming teams) will be sellers and not looking to aquire at this time.

also, does anyone know if there is any truth to the: "Florida desperate wants Montoya so they can market him to the hispanic/cuban populace of south florida" rumor? or is this simply conjecture from those of us on these boards?

I'm loath to move montoya, but for Horton I'd do it.

As for Boyes, do we really know what he's going to cost? He seems to be in the same position that Prucha is this year, but none of us ranger boards want to say that Prucha has lost signifigant trade value, so why should it be the same with Boyes?

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