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12-07-2003, 08:38 AM
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Delmore on the trading block

http://bolts.tbo.com/lightning/MGA1CT9LWND.html
the last line in this article from the Tampa Bay Tribune:

Word is Buffalo D Andy Delmore is on the trading block, and his $1 million salary and booming shot could be a good fit for Tampa Bay, which is struggling on the power play.

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This has gone without saying, but at least it's semi-substantiated. Based on Delmore's play this season, I can't imagine the Sabres will get their 3rd back. Too bad we're gonna lose out in this whole fiasco.

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What scares me is that I think Jason Woolley is more valuable than Andy Delmore, and we didn't exactly get much back for Woolley....

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What scares me is that I think Jason Woolley is more valuable than Andy Delmore, and we didn't exactly get much back for Woolley....
If we're lucky, Delmore will be part of a packaged deal.

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McKee + Delmore for Sarich

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I'm certainly more surprised by the KO of Clymer causing a concussion. I didn't catch the game (corp. x-mas party), but noticed some unusual names listed under the penalty list, that fight the most noticable of all.

Delmore for Dicaire.

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McKee + Delmore for Sarich
I like!

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12-07-2003, 11:17 AM
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McKee + Delmore for Sarich

Only a GM that would trade the 4th overall pick (that everyone knew was going to be Joni Pitkanen) for Ruslan Fedotenko and a couple of seconds would make a deal like that. Oh wait....

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McKee + Delmore for Sarich
LOL, so that would undo that other trade that sent I think sent Sarich and Holzinger for Gratton, but then we got Briere for Gratton, and we know how that worked out.

So in the end, it would be Briere for Holzinger, Gratton, and McKee. To be honest, I'd still make that trade today.

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LOL, so that would undo that other trade that sent I think sent Sarich and Holzinger for Gratton, but then we got Briere for Gratton, and we know how that worked out.

So in the end, it would be Briere for Holzinger, Gratton, and McKee. To be honest, I'd still make that trade today.
It was Holzinger, Primeau, Sarich and a 3rd in 2000 for Gratton and a 2nd in 2001 (Derek Roy).

Then it was Gratton and a 4th for Briere and a 3rd.

We acquired Delmore for a 3rd.

So, what you're trying to say is:

All in all, Jay McKee (drafted with previously acquired pick from Vancouver in 1995), Holzinger, Primeau, a 4th in 2000, a 4th in 2004, a 3rd in 2004 for Briere, a 2nd in 2001 (Derek Roy), ans a 3rd in 2004.

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I just happened to give the condensed version...hehe

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I'm certainly more surprised by the KO of Clymer causing a concussion. I didn't catch the game (corp. x-mas party), but noticed some unusual names listed under the penalty list, that fight the most noticable of all.

Delmore for Dicaire.
Did you get to catch a clip of the fight, Chain? If not let me know, and I can point you in the direction of one.

I hope Kalinin plays with more edge now that he knows what he can toss them if he has to. This kid has shown offensive spark and an edge tonight. He's come so far from the guy who sat many of the first few games for not playing with enough passion. Is Kalinin coming into his own? Is this a turning point? I sure hope so.


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Did you get tp catch a clip of the fight, Chain? If not let me know, and I can point you in the direction of one.

I hope Kalinin plays with more edge now that he knows what he can toss them if he has to. This kid has shown offensive spark and an edge tonight. He's come so far from the guy who sat many of the first few games for not playing with enough passion. Is Kalinin coming into his own? Is this a turning point? I sure hope so.
If you have a clip, I'd be much obliged. Thanks!

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If you have a clip, I'd be much obliged. Thanks!
Second fight down...http://pages.infinit.net/nonorobo/clips.htm.

It's a good clip with a few different angles. Too bad it's the Tampa announcers though. I'm still trying to get RJ's call if I can.

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That was a thing of beauty from Kalinin.

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I couldn't resist. I'll continue my stroll through the team message boards now.

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Wow, Kalinin needs to stop repressing that. He fights better than Boulton!

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Delmore has been misused and has to take some of the blame for his lack of creativity while on the PP. he has been misused because he is multidimensional in that he has the big shot and can cruise into the slot and find the net. They stick his ass to the boards on his off wing and never set him up for a shot. He could help his own cause by trying to move around. he is a liability otherwise, so if there are no points produced you ship him out to the Western conference for a pick of any kind and you move on. They misused him and in turn ruined any confidence he may have had.

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I couldn't resist. I'll continue my stroll through the team message boards now.
If you're going to do a hit and run lurk job, you have to take Delmore back with you.


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That was a thing of beauty from Kalinin.
Pretty good fight from Kalinin. That last punch really buckled Clymer.

 
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Only a GM that would trade the 4th overall pick (that everyone knew was going to be Joni Pitkanen) for Ruslan Fedotenko and a couple of seconds would make a deal like that. Oh wait....
The one defense that Feaster had on that deal is the rumor that the 'Ning's owner told him to trade the pick because he didn't want to pay out another big money "model contract" for a top 5 overall pick.

That's obviously not the case here.

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The one defense that Feaster had on that deal is the rumor that the 'Ning's owner told him to trade the pick because he didn't want to pay out another big money "model contract" for a top 5 overall pick.

That's obviously not the case here.

Did Philly give Pitkanen a model contract, out of curiosity?

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Did Philly give Pitkanen a model contract, out of curiosity?
Sounds like it:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/spo...ey/6966788.htm

Pitkanen has spent the last three seasons in Finland preparing for his NHL debut. His three-year contract will be worth nearly $11.36 million if he gets every bonus. At the least, he will receive nearly $1.19 million this season. His bonus package is worth almost $8 million over the life of the contract.

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Yeah it does, thanks.

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Delmore has been misused and has to take some of the blame for his lack of creativity while on the PP. he has been misused because he is multidimensional in that he has the big shot and can cruise into the slot and find the net. They stick his ass to the boards on his off wing and never set him up for a shot. He could help his own cause by trying to move around. he is a liability otherwise, so if there are no points produced you ship him out to the Western conference for a pick of any kind and you move on. They misused him and in turn ruined any confidence he may have had.
Right on...
When the Sabres played the Predators, a lot was asked about Delmore's success with Nashville and Nashville rookie Marek Zidlicky's similar success this year. The common thread was Kimo Timonen's job on the powerplay point was to get the puck, skate into a position which drew the pk'ers to leave Delmore/Zidlicky's wide open for a hard one-timer, with a man screaning the goalie. Buffalo hasn't tried using Delmore at all in this manner, it is a philospohical difference between the teams.

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