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Rachunek didn't play tonight?

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12-08-2003, 05:35 PM
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Rachunek didn't play tonight?

Healthy scratch, or was he injured?

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12-08-2003, 05:42 PM
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Healthy scratch from what they said at the beginging of the game

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12-08-2003, 06:07 PM
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Could he be on the block or no? Karel would be a perfect fit in Buffalo.

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12-08-2003, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeo21
Could he be on the block or no? Karel would be a perfect fit in Buffalo.
Muckler has said none of the young dmen will be moved. (source: tsn)
I believe it's just a random benching, Martin is trying to hold players accountable for their performances, and while i don't think Rachunek was playing poorly, he's the first victim.

However, IF Ottawa were to trade a defenseman, Rachunek is the most likely to go.
Ottwa would need a serviceable veteran dman coming back the other way, because having two of Hnidy, Leschychyn and Pothier in the lineup is not a good idea heading into the playoffs. Somebody like Glen Wesley (as an example) should be what Ottawa is looking for

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12-08-2003, 06:19 PM
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IMO Rachunek cannot be traded without a serviceable veteran dman coming back the other way. Having two of Hnidy, Leschychyn and Pothier in the lineup is not a good idea heading into the playoffs. Somebody like Glen Wesley (as an example) should be what Ottawa is looking for
How about Jay McKee?

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12-08-2003, 06:24 PM
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How about Jay McKee?
I was thinking more of a rental player. Mckee would be a good addition. a younger version of Leschychyn, but not what Ottawa is looking for. I can't see Ottawa trading Rachunek for another Dman, there is no point to that. It's not as if the team is that unhappy with his play, benching aside. If Rachunek is traded i suspect it's to improve one of our weak areas, probably left wing, rather than a lateral move for another dman.

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12-08-2003, 06:27 PM
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I can't see Ottawa trading Rachunek for another Dman, there is no point to that. It's not as if the team is that unhappy with his play, benching aside. If Rachunek is traded i suspect it's to improve one of our weak areas, probably left wing, rather than a lateral move for another dman.
You just said a "serviceable veteran dman" had to come back the other way. Which is it?!

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12-08-2003, 06:28 PM
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to clarify

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You just said a "serviceable veteran dman" had to come back the other way. Which is it?!
I meant as a part of the deal, and not to trade Rachunek for just another Dman.

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12-08-2003, 06:31 PM
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I meant as a part of the deal, and not to trade Rachunek for just another Dman.
Ah yes. Well Zhitnik would become a rental at the deadline...

Zhitnik + Brown???

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12-08-2003, 07:02 PM
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If Rachunek is traded i suspect it's to improve one of our weak areas, probably left wing, rather than a lateral move for another dman.
Insert pointless oilers-sens proposal here -> ------------------ <-

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12-08-2003, 07:49 PM
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kinda odd, and i don't really believe the rumour, but my friend just said he heard this rumour on some headline sports show

To Ott

Peca, Morrow

To Dal

Rachunek and Bonk

To NYI

Turgeon + pick

make what you want of it, i don't see it happening, don't know why they isles would want pierre

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12-08-2003, 08:12 PM
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Ah yes. Well Zhitnik would become a rental at the deadline...

Zhitnik + Brown???
If I were Muckler, I'd heavily consider that.

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12-08-2003, 08:58 PM
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I have the feeling he had the flu to be honest. Maybe he was just not 100% and they figured they'd rest him. Lalime had the flu, so it's not as though it's not around.

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Quote:
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Ah yes. Well Zhitnik would become a rental at the deadline...

Zhitnik + Brown???
Z's been playing way too well for us this year, and Brown is severely underrated. Unless we're really distant from a playoff spot at the deadline (which I don't think is going to happen...I think we'll be sitting 2-3 games over .500 by then), I don't see the point in trading Zhitnik. I'd do McKee + 3rd/prospect for Rachunek, but not much more.

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12-08-2003, 09:33 PM
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Quote:
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Insert pointless oilers-sens proposal here -> ------------------ <-
Jason Smith, Georges Laraque and 3rd for Karel Rachunek and Petr Schastlivy

there i said it!

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12-08-2003, 09:56 PM
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Insert pointless oilers-sens proposal here -> ------------------ <-
Actually, if there is a need for a LW with some grit, they match up nicely. Depending on how the deal is expanded, I could see one of Isbister, Chimera, possibly even Moreau (though I doubt it, the Oil need his veteran leadership) headed back...

Doubt it will happen, but as a case of two teams dealing from strengths (OTT - D, EDM - LW) to weaknesses (vice versa) it makes sense.

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12-09-2003, 01:08 AM
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Karl was on the ice for both goals in the Jersey game on Saturday. On the second goal he was aimlessly skating up ice...

I think this is more of a Jacques Martin going to him..."sit, watch the game from the pressbox and stop being a Dumbass".

I'm sure that everyone from TSN to Sporstnet to the Team 1200 is going to say that he's being traded...but it would be ridiculous to trade him at this point unless there was a #1 LW type of player coming back.

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12-09-2003, 05:03 AM
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Z's been playing way too well for us this year, and Brown is severely underrated. Unless we're really distant from a playoff spot at the deadline (which I don't think is going to happen...I think we'll be sitting 2-3 games over .500 by then), I don't see the point in trading Zhitnik. I'd do McKee + 3rd/prospect for Rachunek, but not much more.
I just offered the proposal to see the response. If we were out of the hunt at the deadline, it would be a practical deal. Ottawa would need to add an asset though.

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12-09-2003, 06:20 AM
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How about Jay McKee?
McKee was drafted by Muckler....c'mon Mucks pull the trigger!

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12-09-2003, 07:39 AM
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I donít understand Martin. Rachunek gets benched after a few bad games, but his play has not been as bad as some people seem to think. Chara, on the other hand, hasnít exactly been good this year and he doesnít get benched at all. Phillips has been awful lately.

And to be honest, the Sens canít trade Rachunek because the guy that would replace him in the top 4, Volchenkov, canít stay healthy. I love Anton to death, but he takes a beating for his style of play. Donít rush him into the Top 4 until heís ready and in shape.

Young, right handed, top 4 defenseman arenít exactly easy to find as well.

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12-09-2003, 11:43 AM
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kinda odd, and i don't really believe the rumour, but my friend just said he heard this rumour on some headline sports show

To Ott

Peca, Morrow

To Dal

Rachunek and Bonk

To NYI

Turgeon + pick

make what you want of it, i don't see it happening, don't know why they isles would want pierre
I know why they wouldn't want him. Because he is soft, injury prone, old and overpaid. You can pick anyone or take all of them for a reason as to why they wouldn't want him

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Rachunek is overrated. He's a #4 dman at best.

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