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02-08-2007, 11:36 AM
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I love the SENS.
I'm not talking about making the geat saves. I'm talking about the lousy goals he let in. My god people, have you forgotten. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I am speaking about Lalime, not Jacques Plante here.
I agree with you that he let in some lousy goals. No question. I just had a problem with you in saying "It's all his fault"

There's a big difference between the two.

We could debate it forever. I mean, some folks blame Emery for last years loss, were as others , see it differently.

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I love the SENS.
I'm not talking about making the geat saves. I'm talking about the lousy goals he let in. My god people, have you forgotten. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I am speaking about Lalime, not Jacques Plante here.
Name me a goalie that hasn't had bad goals.


He was very good for us at times, you can't forget that part. My god billpo, why are you only able to see the negative things players have done? Lalime carried us through some playoff series, and saved us quite a few times. I still remember this crazy toe-save Lalime did in the last second of play against the Leafs to get us to OT.

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I'm talking about the lousy goals he let in. My god people, have you forgotten.
No. Game 7 was an awful game, it was highly visible and everybody remembers it.
However, he also played some 300 other games for us. Helped us win a President's Trophy, was voted 5th for the Vezina and was a big part of why we were 3 mins away from the Cup finals.

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He was very good for us at times, you can't forget that part. My god billpo, why are you only able to see the negative things players have done?
Because if you watch Ottawa games, players make mistakes all the time.
If you watch highlight reels of other teams, those players never seem to make mistakes.

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Whoa, you're going a little far there. Yes, Lalime was a classy and likeable guy who had one great playoff series and a couple that were OK. But I don't think you fully grasp how bloody awful he was for his last season and a half here. At his worst, Gerber has never that bad.
Lalime's at $.7m and Gerber is at $3.7m


Also, when it comes to playoffs there are very little goalies that have a worse record than Gerber. In 8 games, he has a GAA of 3.49 and a save % of .850... So while Lalime might not have been a hero during the playoffs (far from it), you can expect even less from Gerber.


Ps: I didn't mean to "troll" with this post, I'm just posting a couple facts.

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Because if you watch Ottawa games, players make mistakes all the time.
If you watch highlight reels of other teams, those players never seem to make mistakes.
BUT HE WAS PRETTY.

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02-08-2007, 11:54 AM
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1 person is not responsible for a loss when it's a team sport
Wrong.

When you're a goaltender, it's your job to be solid, and make *all* the routine saves you need to make, to win. Once you let in routine shots, you in fact, are being detrimental to your team. Your team *will* lose it's confidence, and their play will then match your goaltending. Especially, if you don't bounce back with a game where you're standing on your head, or a spectacular save to redeem yourself, right after.

To be biased, is to be blind. Yes, even just a *little* biased.

Being biased, is bound to make you become very complacent.

We all know what being complacent has done for the Ottawa senators in the playoffs.....

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BUT HE WAS PRETTY.
Yeah, that's right, argument's over people.

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Lalime over Gerber???? I'd rather a garbage can full of broken sticks over Lalime.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy has cost us 2 cups.
I guess you've never heard of the salary cap, nor have you seen Gerber in the playoffs. Check my previous post for his stats, they're absolutely attrocious.

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Also, when it comes to playoffs there are very little goalies that have a worse record than Gerber. In 8 games, he has a GAA of 3.49 and a save % of .850... So while Lalime might not have been a hero during the playoffs (far from it), you can expect even less from Gerber.

I'm just posting a couple facts.
Lalime's undue reputation as a playoff choker is only based on one horrible game wearing a jersey that everybody associates with choking.

Brodeur: 153 (89-64), 1.88, 0.923, 21 SO
Hasek: 97 (53-39), 2.02, 0.930, 12 SO
Ward: 23 (15-8), 2.13, 0.920, 2 SO
Giguere: 27 (18-9), 1.94, 0.932, 5 SO
Nabakov: 35 (18-15), 2.14, 0.920, 4 SO

Lalime: 41 (21-20), 1.76, 0.926, 5 SO

Turco: 22 (8-14), 2.53, 0.892, 0 SO
Legace: 11 (4-6), 2.53, 0.888, 0 SO
S.Burke: 38 (12-23), 3.31, 0.890, 1 SO
Cloutier: 25 (10-13), 3.30, 0.872, 0 SO

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I posted in the main thread about Lalime too, but he was always a classy guy and I hope he rejuvenates his career. Also, I watched that entire game because Lalime was starting and there werent that many scoring chances, but Lalime did make a few nice saves, good to see.

I was absolutely distraught with that game 7 vs the Leafs and how Lalime just imploded, and I agreed that it was necessary to let him go after that, and I still thought it was a good decision, but "two" playoff chokes? People aren't actually blaming Lalime for the loss to NJ in game 7 are they? Thats just utter crap if thats the case.

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but "two" playoff chokes? People aren't actually blaming Lalime for the loss to NJ in game 7 are they? Thats just utter crap if thats the case.
I bought the Devils 2003 Cup video at Wally-mart during the lockout and it had the last 3rd period of both the Ottawa series and the Anaheim series on it.

Rachunek and Redden were brutal all period long, getting crossed up and giving up odd man rushes. Then Havlat gave up his check (Friesen) and the rest was history.
Meanwhile... Lalime had been saving Redden and Rachunek all game long. He made more saves on odd man rushes in that 20 minutes than Emery did in 5 games against Buffalo.

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I posted in the main thread about Lalime too, but he was always a classy guy and I hope he rejuvenates his career. Also, I watched that entire game because Lalime was starting and there werent that many scoring chances, but Lalime did make a few nice saves, good to see.

I was absolutely distraught with that game 7 vs the Leafs and how Lalime just imploded, and I agreed that it was necessary to let him go after that, and I still thought it was a good decision, but "two" playoff chokes? People aren't actually blaming Lalime for the loss to NJ in game 7 are they? Thats just utter crap if thats the case.
That OT goal was his fault. No one should be able to score on the short side on yoy like that. That loss was his fault. I know Friesen got by Redden and Rachunik, but that shot was stoppable and he should have had it.

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Check my previous post for his stats, they're absolutely attrocious.
It's not like he has a huge sample of games. He was also ill, as is widely known.

My "expectations" of Gerber are not going to be based on 242 minutes of play.

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I bought the Devils 2003 Cup video at Wally-mart during the lockout and it had the last 3rd period of both the Ottawa series and the Anaheim series on it.

Rachunek and Redden were brutal all period long, getting crossed up and giving up odd man rushes. Then Havlat gave up his check (Friesen) and the rest was history.
Meanwhile... Lalime had been saving Redden and Rachunek all game long. He made more saves on odd man rushes in that 20 minutes than Emery did in 5 games against Buffalo.
He should have stopped that shot and you know it.

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That OT goal was his fault. No one should be able to score on the short side on yoy like that. That loss was his fault. I know Friesen got by Redden and Rachunik, but that shot was stoppable and he should have had it.
It wasn't in OT.

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It wasn't in OT.
my mistake. he still should have stopped it.

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That OT goal was his fault. No one should be able to score on the short side on yoy like that. That loss was his fault. I know Friesen got by Redden and Rachunik, but that shot was stoppable and he should have had it.

He was in alone. That's a very good scoring chance and some scoring chances will go in. As long as Lalime was saving most of them, which he was... he was keeping us in the game. He was holding up his end of the bargain and the team defense wasn't.

The Nieuwendyk shots should have been saves. But not the Friesen goal.

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It's not like he has a huge sample of games. He was also ill, as is widely known.

My "expectations" of Gerber are not going to be based on 242 minutes of play.
As far as I know he was Ill before the playoffs but continued to use the excuse. At least that's what I remember the Canes fans telling me.

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Ill with what , the flu?

If that's the case, he shouldn't of played when sick.. Wow.

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He was in alone. That's a very good scoring chance and some scoring chances will go in. As long as Lalime was saving most of them, which he was... he was keeping us in the game. He was holding up his end of the bargain and the team defense wasn't.

The Nieuwendyk shots should have been saves. But not the Friesen goal.

He was in alone from the side of the net an backhanded the puck high on the short side.

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Ill with what , the flu?

If that's the case, he shouldn't of played when sick.. Wow.
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In Gerber's first start since April 24
It was an almost-180-degree turn from the last time Gerber was in the starting lineup; then, he was pulled in Game 2 of Carolina's opening round against Montreal after giving up nine goals on 34 shots in the two games against the Canadiens.

"It's tough if you start a series like that, to get hammered like that. It's no fun,'' said Gerber, who was weakened by illness and a 12-pound weight loss at the time but refuses to use that as an excuse.

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He was in alone from the side of the net an backhanded the puck high on the short side.
Yeah, he was in completely alone (a lot like a breakaway). Scoring chances sometimes go in.

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Brodeur: 0.333
Luongo: 0.333
Turco: 0.300
Fleury:0.350
Lehtonen: 0.286
Raycroft: 0.353
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Miller: 0.214
Giguerre: 0.350
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Wrong.

When you're a goaltender, it's your job to be solid, and make *all* the routine saves you need to make, to win. Once you let in routine shots, you in fact, are being detrimental to your team. Your team *will* lose it's confidence, and their play will then match your goaltending. Especially, if you don't bounce back with a game where you're standing on your head, or a spectacular save to redeem yourself, right after.

To be biased, is to be blind. Yes, even just a *little* biased.

Being biased, is bound to make you become very complacent.

We all know what being complacent has done for the Ottawa senators in the playoffs.....
Okay now. Wrong, yeah , not so much.

COMPLETELY disagree with you

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Yeah, he was in completely alone (a lot like a breakaway). Scoring chances sometimes go in.

Shootout stats this year: (SV%)
Brodeur: 0.333
Luongo: 0.333
Turco: 0.300
Fleury:0.350
Lehtonen: 0.286
Raycroft: 0.353
Dipietro: 0.154
Fernandez: 0.281
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Miller: 0.214
Giguerre: 0.350
Belfour: 0.278

I got confused. I thought someone said Lalime was sick.

My bad.

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That OT goal was his fault. No one should be able to score on the short side on yoy like that. That loss was his fault. I know Friesen got by Redden and Rachunik, but that shot was stoppable and he should have had it.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree, as that late in the game, the flub by Redden and Rachunek should have never even happened in the first place. Lalime was a huge part of why we went far into the playoffs to begin with, and if you want to talk about excuses, to me it was no excuse for the defensive flub that late in the game.

You win and lose as a team, you can blame one person all you want, but that's not how it works. Redden, Rachunek, Lalime, if you watch the entire game, theres more people you can point out im sure of it that contribute to a loss.

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