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02-13-2007, 11:11 AM
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is Theodore the new Jim Carey?

Both were brilliant to later fall like a rock.

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02-13-2007, 11:13 AM
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theodore has definatley fallen off his game, not nearly as bad as carey did though. Only time will tell to see if he can fall that far.

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Theodore at his best was better than Carey at his best and Theodore right now is better than Carey after the fall.

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No, because Theodore was better over a longer period of time. He becomes a free agent this summer, if I'm not mistaken, and signing in a place where there is less pressure. I think he could be good again, he just needs to find his confident.

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02-13-2007, 11:15 AM
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Theodore at his best was better than Carey at his best and Theodore right now is better than Carey after the fall.
theodore: 10 wins 12 losses 3.30 GAA 892%

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Theo plays behind one of the worst defenses in the NHL.

He's not that bad of a goaltender, he's just overpaid.

I don't think him and Carey are a fair comparison.

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Both were brilliant to later fall like a rock.
Carey had one brilliant season. Theo had one brilliant season with a couple of acceptable.

Theo brilliant season was one of the best ever post by a goaltender, all time. Carey season was great and earn him a vezina trophy, but his performances wern't even close of Theo's one.

Theodore his better and will be remember as the better goaltender. However, it's true both career had a pattern of a big high and a big low. I hope Theodore will be able to finish in a better way than Carey though.

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No, because Theodore was better over a longer period of time. He becomes a free agent this summer, if I'm not mistaken, and signing in a place where there is less pressure. I think he could be good again, he just needs to find his confident.
UFA next summer

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theodore: 10 wins 12 losses 3.30 GAA 892%
Jim Carey: 30,000 burgers flipped, 18,000 "would you like fries with that", 75% supersize succes rate

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Theodore is just too small of a goalie: THE ONLY thing he has going now is he looks really really awesome in that Colorado jersey.
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02-13-2007, 11:20 AM
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Both were brilliant to later fall like a rock.
Theodore has been POISON since the season he won the Hart and Vezina. Jose Theodore has always been WAY OVERATED since he first came into the NHL, he was never as good as everybody thought he was going to be and now he is showing his true colors and everybody can see what he is really worth. Mathieu Garon was 5 times the goalie Theo was in Montreal....Garon just never got the same opportunities as Theo.

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Mathieu Garon was 5 times the goalie Theo was in Montreal....Garon just never got the same opportunities as Theo.
and garon is five times the goalie racicot is playing in LA.

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02-13-2007, 11:47 AM
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Mathieu Garon was 5 times the goalie Theo was in Montreal....Garon just never got the same opportunities as Theo.
And he's proving that with his stellar play in LA since being traded from Montreal....

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theodore: 10 wins 12 losses 3.30 GAA 892%
1996-97 Carey 5 wins 13 losses 3.82 GAA 871%

See my point? Carey at his worst was worse than Theo at his worse.

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And he's proving that with his stellar play in LA since being traded from Montreal....
Ha, ya. I remember the day Garon got traded...you'd think we just traded Patrick Roy or something. Garon might have been the most overrated "nobody" to play in Montreal this decade.

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It's kind of shame really, because if you believe the scuttlebut...Theo's downfall was caused by his "lifestyle" and habits outside the rink.

This guy was a top-notch goalie at every level he played at...including the best player in the NHL one year.

I just don't think he has the mental toughness, or overall intelligence required to keep his head on straight.

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Theodore had a longer history of being an effective NHL player (both as a starter and a back-up) before his breakout season, and has stayed in the league longer afterwards.

Theodore, for all his troubles, is still in the NHL. With that contract, and being on a team like Colorado, that before the cap, had no problems spending money to win, could easily solve their problems by putting Theodore in the minors and saving the cap room, but, they haven't. It means they still see him as a valuable back-up.

It's still not the greatest career path that you'd hope for out of a Vezina and Hart winner, but, he's not at Jim Carey's level. Take out the Hart winning season, and he still has something that resembles a decent NHL career. You can't say that about Carey.

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02-13-2007, 12:17 PM
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He becomes a free agent this summer, if I'm not mistaken.
I think he gets 6M next year, it's either that or 5.5M.

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I think he gets 6M next year, it's either that or 5.5M.
Much means if the avs dont buy him out im gonna be extremely dissapointed.

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Per this link . . . http://nhlsalarycap.info/teams_colorado_avalanche.php . . . Theodore is due $6M next year.

Ouch!

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It's kind of shame really, because if you believe the scuttlebut...Theo's downfall was caused by his "lifestyle" and habits outside the rink.

This guy was a top-notch goalie at every level he played at...including the best player in the NHL one year.

I just don't think he has the mental toughness, or overall intelligence required to keep his head on straight.
That post tells it all. Nothing to do with talent (or lack of it).

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Theodore had two good and some mediocre seasons. Carey has one good and that was that.

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A better comparison would be Felix Potvin.

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