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02-13-2007, 06:11 PM
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EDM-PHI Proposal

To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick

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02-13-2007, 06:13 PM
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To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
No chance. Torres is worth more than that.

No interest in Hatcher unless it's just to take salary back as a sort of payment for procuring a younger guy like Pitkanen, IMO.

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02-13-2007, 06:18 PM
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To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
Sorry don't like it. Maybe we should send Shaggy to PHX (re-unite with his brother) for Owen Nolan.

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02-13-2007, 06:23 PM
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Sorry don't like it. Maybe we should send Shaggy to PHX (re-unite with his brother) for Owen Nolan.
That I could live with.

Hate to hi-jack this thread, but I like the idea of picking up Nolan. Would probably have to base the deal on a draft pick--like a 3rd round pick or something--as I doubt they'd see much value in Tjarny. But with Pisani out for who knows how long, a veteran presence like Nolan on the RW would help in the push for the play-offs, I think.

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02-13-2007, 06:28 PM
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Terrible proposal.

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02-13-2007, 06:30 PM
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I think the only way we'd be willing to take Hatcher('s contract) is if another, more valuable, asset was coming with him (ie. Pitkannen).

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02-13-2007, 06:34 PM
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If Hatcher is the main piece of an Edmonton Philly deal, I'll be so mad... I can't even think about it.

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02-13-2007, 07:00 PM
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are you sure we wouldn't have to throw in hemsky and a high draft pick to even up that trade?

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02-13-2007, 07:00 PM
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How about

To Edmonton:
Pitkanen
Sanderson

To Philly:
Torres
Shaggy
1st rounder
2nd rounder

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02-13-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyPlayer101 View Post
To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
interesting deal. i have a counter-proposal for you, though.

To EDM:

C Peter Forsberg
D Joni Pitkanen

To PHI:
LW Toby Peterson
Conditional Draft Pick


My trade is about as reasonable as your proposal.

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02-13-2007, 08:09 PM
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Fine, reserve all this hatred towards your GM, Kevin Lowe, who is SCOUTING DERIAN HATCHER...HA HA HA

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02-13-2007, 08:11 PM
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Fine, reserve all this hatred towards your GM, Kevin Lowe, who is SCOUTING DERIAN HATCHER...HA HA HA
If I could see you right now, you'd have a broken jaw.

Idiot.

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02-13-2007, 08:12 PM
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To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
I think we'd have to give you more for those two. What about if Edm adds Hemsky and Smyth?

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Why do 90 percent of fans make ******** one sided proposals?

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02-13-2007, 08:47 PM
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This is what Eklund has done. Convincned people that you give up something for Derian Hatcher. Like he's a sought after commodity. If Philly was offered a 4th rounder for Hatcher they would take it. Even future considerations.

If we are scouting him, it's to decide if we can take his ugly contract along with Pitkanen.

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02-13-2007, 08:53 PM
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No way!

In the "New" NHL, Hatcher is slow and useless. I don't think Hatcher is an upgrade on our defence. He is slow and carries a big salary.

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Counter proposal:

To EDM:
Sanderson, Hatcher, 1st overall pick

To PHI
Tjarnqvist

Seriously. Hatcher has such extreme negative value you'd have to give up a lot just to get someone to take him off your hands.

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02-13-2007, 09:20 PM
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To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
/me takes a poop on this thread.

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02-13-2007, 09:26 PM
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You got to be joking?

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Originally Posted by MoneyPlayer101 View Post
To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick

No thanks!

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02-13-2007, 09:31 PM
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To EDM:

LW Geoff Sanderson (1.5 M)
D Derian Hatcher (3.5 M)

To PHI:

LW Raffi Torres (925 T) RFA
D Daniel Tjarqvist (1.625 M) UFA
Conditional Draft Pick
What are you, drunk? For those two I might give a 4th round draft. Jeez, what a waste of thread space.

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02-13-2007, 09:51 PM
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Fine, reserve all this hatred towards your GM, Kevin Lowe, who is SCOUTING DERIAN HATCHER...HA HA HA
Dude you should realize something....if that is true, and I haven't heard that anywhere, but IF it's true, he'll be scouting him to decide if we could make him fit in Edmonton as he would be part of a Pitkanen deal. Lowe won't be taking Hatcher alone, it is a creative way to get the d-man he wants without having to give up much out of his own organization.

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02-13-2007, 09:55 PM
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I think the most fair deal for both sides is:

Pitkanen + Hatcher + Nodl

for

Torres + Chorney + 1st round draft pick

For all those who think that Philly won't trade Pitkanen, wake up. It was not even a week ago when I watched Fedoryuk punch Joni in the mouth during a Philly practice. There have been long standing rumors for 2 years that Joni is not happy in Philly and homesick. The fans are also on him as well.

For those Oiler fans who think us getting Hatcher is some sort of answer to the Oilers problems, wake up. Hatcher is not useless. He's got more blueline experience then 95% of the defensemen in the league. Is he a top pairing defensemen in the new NHL? No. However that don't mean he won't do well on the third pairing or the PK. Furthermore, us aquring Hatcher is nothing more then a salary dump for Philly. It's something we have to do to cut a deal for Pitkanen.

Philly fans, guess what; Pitkanen is awesome. However, no player (other then Crosby/Ovechkin/Kovalechuk is worth two 1st round NHL ready players and a draft pick. Torres, Lupul and a 1st for Pitkanen is overpayment to the extreme.

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02-13-2007, 09:58 PM
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I think the most fair deal for both sides is:

Pitkanen + Hatcher + Nodl

for

Torres + Chorney + 1st round draft pick


For all those who think that Philly won't trade Pitkanen, wake up. It was not even a week ago when I watched Fedoryuk punch Joni in the mouth during a Philly practice. There have been long standing rumors for 2 years that Joni is not happy in Philly and homesick. The fans are also on him as well.

For those Oiler fans who think us getting Hatcher is some sort of answer to the Oilers problems, wake up. Hatcher is not useless. He's got more blueline experience then 95% of the defensemen in the league. Is he a top pairing defensemen in the new NHL? No. However that don't mean he won't do well on the third pairing or the PK. Furthermore, us aquring Hatcher is nothing more then a salary dump for Philly. It's something we have to do to cut a deal for Pitkanen.

Philly fans, guess what; Pitkanen is awesome. However, no player (other then Crosby/Ovechkin/Kovalechuk is worth two 1st round NHL ready players and a draft pick. Torres, Lupul and a 1st for Pitkanen is overpayment to the extreme.
Take Hatcher out of the deal, and it's Chorney, Torres and a 1st. That isn't even close to enough to land Pitkanen.

Realistically to get Pitkanen it would take something like this:

Top prospect, Good prospect, Roster player, and a 1st.

Basically Roster player (Torres/Lupul) + NHL ready prospect (Gilbert/JFJ/Pouliot/Schremp) + Good prospect (Chorney/Cogliano/Dubnyk) and a 1st.


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02-13-2007, 10:03 PM
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Take Hatcher out of the deal, and it's Chorney, Torres and a 1st. That isn't even close to enough to land Pitkanen.

Realistically to get Pitkanen it would take something like this:

Gilbert, Chorney, Torres and a 1st.

Basically Roster player (Torres) + NHL ready prospect (Gilbert/JFJ/Pouliot/Schremp) + Good prospect (Chorney) and a 1st.
Actually, it is enough. Philly has to pay us to take Hatcher off their hands. hence, no Gilbert. Sorry...

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02-13-2007, 10:05 PM
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Actually, it is enough. Philly has to pay us to take Hatcher off their hands. hence, no Gilbert. Sorry...
That's stupid. Hatcher is having a horrible season, but he does not have negative trade value (to the tune of a top Oiler prospect).

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