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02-14-2007, 06:51 AM
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Al Strachan on the Score last night

I don't have the exact quotes from it, but did anyone see Strachan on The Score last night when they were doing their 10-Minute Misconduct routine?

He basically said nobody wants to play for the oilers (he did preface this by saying he'd be hung by the people out there for saying it). He said there's so much pressure and a lot of it has to do with the focus on salaries. Every time someone makes a mistake or has a bad game their salary is brought up and the validity of their contracts is brought up. He siad the players grow sick of it and don't wanna play there.

I think he's full of it, but then again, he WAS right about the Pronger thing and judging by this site, I think he might be right. After all, aren't we the busiest board on here?

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I don't know, he has a point but it's not like this is the case with all of the players. We handed out some lucrative contracts in the off season and we have had some chronic underachievers. I really think that the same kind of talk would be going on with the fans of any team in the same situation.

How many times have people complained that MAB is not earning his salary?

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I don't have the exact quotes from it, but did anyone see Strachan on The Score last night when they were doing their 10-Minute Misconduct routine?

He basically said nobody wants to play for the oilers (he did preface this by saying he'd be hung by the people out there for saying it). He said there's so much pressure and a lot of it has to do with the focus on salaries. Every time someone makes a mistake or has a bad game their salary is brought up and the validity of their contracts is brought up. He siad the players grow sick of it and don't wanna play there.

I think he's full of it, but then again, he WAS right about the Pronger thing and judging by this site, I think he might be right. After all, aren't we the busiest board on here?
By his logic no one wants to play in toronto either, more pressure, and salary is brought up just as much Like does Strachan go around the league and ask players do you want to play in edmonton? I don't buy it, the guy doesn't like Edmonton, and since pronger left, he has found a new way to put a hate on us.

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I agreet his happens in most cities, I guess the glare of it all in such a hockey-mad town is what his point probably was

Either way, I htink he's an idiot. If you are underachieving on a big contract, suck it up, you're in the big leagues.

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This is another attempt, in my oppinion, by the Eastern based media to sabotage the Oilers' ability to attract players.

Strachan is an ***hole.

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This is another attempt, in my oppinion, by the Eastern based media to sabotage the Oilers' ability to attract players.

Strachan is an ***hole.
Your conspiracy theory is almost as silly as his, and has about as much basis in fact, but I will say that it is damaging to have some jackass running around saying this stuff. Players just might start believing it.

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By his logic no one wants to play in toronto either, more pressure, and salary is brought up just as much Like does Strachan go around the league and ask players do you want to play in edmonton? I don't buy it, the guy doesn't like Edmonton, and since pronger left, he has found a new way to put a hate on us.
But Toronto is Toronto, and Edmonton is well, Edmonton

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But Toronto is Toronto, and Edmonton is well, Edmonton
Strachans excuses for a player supposedly not wanting to come here would be just as valid in Toronto. "Pronger didn't want to stay for personal reasons and now know one wants to come here", **** like that really bugs me. Tell that to Petr Sykora who whenever he is interviewed sounds thrilled to be in edmonton.

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I don't have the exact quotes from it, but did anyone see Strachan on The Score last night when they were doing their 10-Minute Misconduct routine?

He basically said nobody wants to play for the oilers (he did preface this by saying he'd be hung by the people out there for saying it). He said there's so much pressure and a lot of it has to do with the focus on salaries. Every time someone makes a mistake or has a bad game their salary is brought up and the validity of their contracts is brought up. He siad the players grow sick of it and don't wanna play there.

I think he's full of it, but then again, he WAS right about the Pronger thing and judging by this site, I think he might be right. After all, aren't we the busiest board on here?

Strachen is a dick head that seems to be a figure head for the NHLPA but i have to ask this question.. Since this has nothing to do with the fans since what player ever goes out of their way to read fan boards (unless they enjoy torcher and self loathing), besides, as far as i know, fans biggest complaint here lately is the effort, not the salarys..

So this leaves management... this isn't the first hint that players don't like playing under Klowe, seems every player that leaves in one way or another takes a parting shot at Klowe..

has me curious

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The fact that Edmonton fans get so invariably defensive every time something like this is mentioned suggests to me that even deep down they believe it, too.

I happen to think Strachan is probably right.

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Why would any player want to play in the fishbowls that are Montreal and Toronto then? Anyways, with the salary cap every player is going to get scrutinized based on their salary by the fans and media because each team has a limited amount of money they can distribute.

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Strachans excuses for a player supposedly not wanting to come here would be just as valid in Toronto. "Pronger didn't want to stay for personal reasons and now know one wants to come here", **** like that really bugs me. Tell that to Petr Sykora who whenever he is interviewed sounds thrilled to be in edmonton.
you gotta look behind things buddy, not take everything at face value. Its obvious, all thing equal ( media pressure fan ruthlessness, fishbowl crap) that a player would choose Toronto over Edmonton. There many factors that cross players mind, Toronto has everything Edmonton could offer and more as a city. Of course there is exceptions, there is always exceptions to everything,

Take these boards for example, if this is a true cross section of Oiler fans then yah, i sure as hell wouldn't want to play here and put up with the crap you many people here spew on the boards, along with the isolation and weather of Edmonton. I can see what the Dork on the score is saying ( i dont like him), its seems plausible

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The fact that Edmonton fans get so invariably defensive every time something like this is mentioned suggests to me that even deep down they believe it, too.

I happen to think Strachan is probably right.
i agree 100%

insecurity should the middle name of this board

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The fact that Edmonton fans get so invariably defensive every time something like this is mentioned suggests to me that even deep down they believe it, too.

I happen to think Strachan is probably right.
I do get alittle upset when guys like Strachan say no one wants to play in Edmonton, I've lived here all my life, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, when Strachan says no one wants to come here, its an insult to the city I love.

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Why would any player want to play in the fishbowls that are Montreal and Toronto then? Anyways, with the salary cap every player is going to get scrutinized based on their salary by the fans and media because each team has a limited amount of money they can distribute.
Because Toronto and Montreal are world class cities and have way to offer off the ice, to the players and families. As much as we don't want to believe it, players do take non hockey things into account when choosing teams ,assuming they greedy money ******.

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The fact that Edmonton fans get so invariably defensive every time something like this is mentioned suggests to me that even deep down they believe it, too.

I happen to think Strachan is probably right.
naw. deep down we know nothing. defence comes from the fact its Stachen saying it and its only natural to defend Klowe who at least in the public view seems to be ok...


the continueing rumblings about player problems with Klowe i slowly creating at least Curiousity about if and maybe somethings up..

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I do get alittle upset when guys like Strachan say no one wants to play in Edmonton, I've lived here all my life, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, when Strachan says no one wants to come here, its an insult to the city I love.
exactly, you've lived here you're whoel life, you don't know anything different. What about some kid who grew up in Toronto, or some other Major North American city?

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Why would any player want to play in the fishbowls that are Montreal and Toronto then? Anyways, with the salary cap every player is going to get scrutinized based on their salary by the fans and media because each team has a limited amount of money they can distribute.
The difference is, they don't sit there and ***** about every single player who makes more than $2mil and isn't living up to the standards put forth by the fans.

You'd never hear fans in Toronto whining about how Pisani makes $2.5 mil and only has 9 goals (especially with the role he's playing), and calling it a terrible signing.

Oiler fans bring up money every chance they get to trash a player... so what Strachan is saying is very accurate. This board alone is proof positive of it.

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exactly, you've lived here you're whoel life, you don't know anything different. What about some kid who grew up in Toronto, or some other Major North American city?
What about all the players from Edmonton and Alberta I suppose none of them want to play in Edmonton either. I'd be interested in how many players strachan has talked to about who doesn't want to play in Edmonton, I'm sure you could find players who don't want to play in Toronto, or Montreal, or philidelphia, or Anahiem.

EDIT: I'm sure that there are players who wouldn't want to play in Edmonton, I'm not disputing that, but when Strachan says that no one wants to play here, thats when it bugs me.

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The difference is, they don't sit there and ***** about every single player who makes more than $2mil and isn't living up to the standards put forth by the fans.

You'd never hear fans in Toronto whining about how Pisani makes $2.5 mil and only has 9 goals (especially with the role he's playing), and calling it a terrible signing.

Oiler fans bring up money every chance they get to trash a player... so what Strachan is saying is very accurate. This board alone is proof positive of it.
This has nothing to do with fan, players don't read boards and im at almost every game and salary is not an issue...

go blow smoke somewhere else

Every indication this is about Klowe

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The fact that Edmonton fans get so invariably defensive every time something like this is mentioned suggests to me that even deep down they believe it, too.

I happen to think Strachan is probably right.
Strachan could have said the same about any hockey market where fans actually give a crap. You know... markets that have real fans. The "problem" is that Edmonton fans are educated about the game and the business, so they tend to chime in more than some fairweather fans found in other cities. They're not the only "real fans", by any means, which begs the question: Why does he specifically point to Edmonton? That's why people get defensive.

To me, if a player doesn't want to go to a hockey-mad city, that's fine. But to put the city and the fans down because they are hockey nuts doesn't make sense. If players want to live anonymous lives, they can go to Florida. But as a fan, I want a player that thrives in an environment like Edmonton or Montreal. If they can take the pressure off the ice, they can handle the on-ice stuff as well.

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But Toronto is Toronto, and Edmonton is well, Edmonton
Please explain the difference.

I know a man that recently moved to Edmonton from Toronto because "I couldn't afford to live downtown and I was tired of a 90 minute commute by train each way every day. I never got to see my kids."

Combine that with the fact that you can't get hockey tickets in Toronto and the advantage of Toronto is....?

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Edmonton has no more pressure than the likes of Toronto and Montreal. However think about, whould rather play a game with constant pressure or be able to somewhere warm where nobody knows who you are?

The bigger the city, the more it has to offer.

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What about all the players from Edmonton and Alberta I suppose none of them want to play in Edmonton either. I'd be interested in how many players strachan has talked to about who doesn't want to play in Edmonton, I'm sure you could find players who don't want to play in Toronto, or Montreal, or philidelphia, or Anahiem.

like i said dude, there is always exceptions. of course there are players who don't want to play in Toronto, Montreal or Philadelphia and Anaheim. But i guarantee you, it's a smaller number than those that don't want to play in Edmonton

Players who grew up in Alberta yah, look at Smyth, he wants to stay in Edmonton, understandability so, but look at the fan sitting around ************ the contract talks, pissing and moaning about how much he'll get, if it was a player with attachments to the city, i bet he'll bolt the second he gets the chance to, i know i would. Look at L-Rock, he wanted to stay, but he wanted to much money, know he's gone, probably alienated as well, and he's having one of the better years of his career, Edmonton Fans want the players here, but on their terms, and don't give a **** about what the player wants or thinks. from that perspective alone, it's easy to see why what AL is saying may have a kernel of truth.

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Because Toronto and Montreal are world class cities and have way to offer off the ice, to the players and families. As much as we don't want to believe it, players do take non hockey things into account when choosing teams ,assuming they greedy money ******.
Please explain what things Toronto and Montreal have to offer that Edmonton does not.

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