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02-14-2007, 10:22 AM
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St. Louis, Lecavalier, Richards: HHOF?

which of the 3 have the best shot at the hall of fame?

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02-14-2007, 10:26 AM
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I would say none. They don't seem to be consistent enough from season to season. However, if I had to choose, I would say Richards or Lecavalier. They are younger and will most likely end up having longer careers.

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Question is, could the HHOF fit them under the cap?

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Richards - I don't think that he will ever make it to the HHOF because he is mainly a passer who has always depended on playing with good scorers...

Lecavalier - He has a shot at it...he is still young and his numbers are a huge improvement over last season. He still hasnt reached his full potential.

St.Louis - I love this guy and think he can make the HHOF. Only thing standing in his way is that he started his NHL career rather late. If he can put together another 5 or 6 great NHL seasons, he should make it!

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Right now it's Brad Richards, because he has a couple good seasons under his belt plus a Conn Smythe award to go with his Stanley Cup. He's slumping this season but he'll be okay. For the future, Lecavalier seems to have the best shot because he'll be putting up the biggest numbers for the longest time. St. Louis won't make it even though he was the MVP for that one dominant year; he won't have enough good seasons in the rest of his career. I'd say he has 3 or 4 elite seasons left before he starts to decline. Lecavalier is only 26 and now he's finally reached what's expected of him on offense, and I expect him to only get better.

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02-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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Lacavalier will be the best player of the 3 when all is said and done IMO.

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Lacavalier will be the best player of the 3 when all is said and done IMO.
Well he is the Michael Jordan of hockey.

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Well he is the Michael Jordan of hockey.
Vincent Lecavalier:
- Millionaire Pretty Boy
- Also plays hockey

http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/in...ent_Lecavalier

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No idea. If St. Louis were younger, him obviously. I'd say Lecavalier in the long run has the best shot.

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Question is, could the HHOF fit them under the cap?


Magnifique!

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Question is, could the HHOF fit them under the cap?


well put.

AND for the question I would say none of them.

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I would say Vinnie has by the far the best shot, but unless they win another few cups, I doubt any of the three will make it.

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Richards - I don't think that he will ever make it to the HHOF because he is mainly a passer who has always depended on playing with good scorers...
Not really - he is most known for his incredible 2 way play. He does so many little things for the bolts, that often go unnoticed. He has always been in the shadows of Vinnys hype and still is (though his Conn Smythe finally got him some credit he deserves).

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Interestingly, every eligible Art Ross winner (except for Herbert Cain, who won the Ross in 1944 when the league was watered down due to WW2) is a member of the Hall of Fame. No disrespect to St. Louis, but he'll probably become the second player to "earn" this distinction.

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Really two soon to tell. Ask again in 5 years...

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Interestingly, every eligible Art Ross winner (except for Herbert Cain, who won the Ross in 1944 when the league was watered down due to WW2) is a member of the Hall of Fame. No disrespect to St. Louis, but he'll probably become the second player to "earn" this distinction.
Agreed. But out of the three, I see St. Louis having the best shot, if he can have several more top-5 or 10 scoring seasons. I don't think that Lecavalier or Richards will have the same opportunity to win the Art Ross or Hart in coming years.

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All three have some pretty good credentials so far. Three of them have a Cup. All three played on Team Canada '04 and '06. St. Louis has a Hart, an Art Ross and first team all-star and also led the league in assists once. Lecavalier has a World Cup MVP and is having a huge year. Richards has a Conn Smythe Trophy and a 91 point season so far. All three have a good shot based on projection.

St. Louis other than tis year will need a couple more seasons just like this. Lecavalier looks just like we thought he would. Probably will lead the NHL in goals. Richards needs to smarten up though. The Conn Smythe is a great award but he cant just rest on that to get into the Hall a lot of non-HHOfers have won it (Crozier, Leach, Goring, Hextall, Ranford, and so far C. Lemieux, Vernon, Nieuwendyk. And its already in teh bag Giguere isnt going to be there)

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It really is too soon, but I think Lecavalier has the best chance if I had to pick one right now. Like you guys said St. Louis started too late. But Lecavalier at only 26 has enough time to accumulate a good number of HOF-caliber seasons. The questions is whether or not he actually does it. He's been incredible this season, that's for sure.

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Seems to me like Lecavalier is finally putting it together and I could see him with a few 100 pts season when all is said and done. I used to think he was severely overrated (and he frickin was for a period of time) but now he's living up to the hype (although no one will mistakenly call him Michael ).

St. Louis is too old unless he starts going Johnny Bucyk on us. He's 31 and has 396 career points in 502 games. He'll need 6 straight seasons of 100+ points just to reach 1000 points and most people here don't even think 1200 points is a good enough achievement for the hall (see Damphousse, Ciccarelli, etc...). Granted he has a hart and an art ross under his belt...well Theodore has a hart...

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which of the 3 have the best shot at the hall of fame?
Vinny - he was a number one draft pick, and he's the franchise player in TB. He was the youngest captain in league history...he'll definitely get in (I hope)

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02-14-2007, 04:14 PM
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3 players usualy make it to the hall every year. They all have a great shot. St. Louis just needs some more elite years in him, and Richards and Lecavalier are still young, they each have at 10 years left in then its to early to just right them off.

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lets wait 10 years, then decide.

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Really two soon to tell. Ask again in 5 years...
Isn't that the whole point of this thread? go out on a limb and give a opinion.

in my opinion the only one who doesn't have a shot is St Louis. Hes almost 32 and has only 1 standout season under his belt, pending the results of this season of course. Even if he puts together another 3 or 4 top 10 seasons i dont think it's enough.

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