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02-15-2007, 11:05 PM
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Gone. Becasue of the way the Rangers are using him, because the way he is sought by other teams, becasue we have several players of his stature in the pipeline and becasue, really, if we aren't sellers, only he or Hossa are valuable trade assets from the current roster and Hossa ain;t going anywhere......Personally, I would deal Dawes first, but Prucha has more value....And if the Rangers keep up the good play, which I think they will, they will indeed add a forwarr or, even more likely, a D-man...

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02-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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Prucha stays put, wakes up tomorrow realizes that he needs to produce and starts scoring 2 goals per game for the remainder of the season and all the way into the cup finals. Thus altimatly being awarded the MVP for the playoffs.

Oh wait that was a dream....

On a more serious note I hope he stays even though it looks like we could afford to deal him at the moment, what happens if someone goes down with an injury? Do you expect Hollywood to pick up the slack...

I vote for him to stay and make my dream come true...

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02-15-2007, 11:22 PM
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I think that any deal involving Horton or Zherdev will happen in the offseason (maybe even on draft day) rather than during the season.
Look at the last 2 big name holdouts, Yashin and Havlat.

Yashin was the key part of that draft day debacle in 2001 for the Isles... key word in that sentence... "was." Now, Spezza is the key there.

Havlat was the big name in the blockbuster 3-way deal between Ottawa, San Jose, and Chicago. So far, that deal hasn't worked out too well for any of those teams. Havlat has been hurt here and there, Bell has sucked, and Hennessy really hasn't gotten his chance yet, but will.

I completely agree with you, and that's why I said they should have traded him right when he was holding out, they would have gotten more for him. Teams would be more willing to trade for him if they didn't know he would bomb this year like he has, and get overpaid like he is.

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02-15-2007, 11:38 PM
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Unless part of a big trade, getting rid of Prucha doesn't seem to help the team much, does it?

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02-15-2007, 11:40 PM
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ok so like if rangers get horton in a deal for prucha

then ill just say, Prucha who?

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02-15-2007, 11:49 PM
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I see no real reason why he'd be moved. he's good for some energy on the 3rd/4th line, with 1st unit PP time, and it's not like he's going to bring in a ransom.

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02-16-2007, 12:02 AM
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I really want to keep Prucha but if we can get Zherdev for him without giving up too much else I would love that deal

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02-16-2007, 12:18 AM
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I voted Yes, he will be a Ranger after the trade deadline. Dealing him would probably hurt the team. I bet the team really appreciates the work he puts forth on a daily basis and understands that he plays big for his size. I'm sure some players in the lockerroom would be pissed to see him leave.

Trading him would be bad for team chemistry. Not only that but I think he'll be given a shot at the top 2 lines next season again. At this point, the Rangers feel confident in their 1st and 2nd lines so they won't change it unless they struggle. Prucha will be a 3rd/4th liner the rest of the season and he's going to have to try to make the best of his opportunities.

I understand Renney isn't playing him enough, but honestly, would YOU change anything after what we've seen the past 5 games? Let's at least be happy that Renney put him on the 1st PP unit. He's trying to jump-start Prucha and that's the perfect place to do it.

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02-16-2007, 12:26 AM
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I voted Yes, he will be a Ranger after the trade deadline. Dealing him would probably hurt the team. I bet the team really appreciates the work he puts forth on a daily basis and understands that he plays big for his size. I'm sure some players in the lockerroom would be pissed to see him leave.

Trading him would be bad for team chemistry. Not only that but I think he'll be given a shot at the top 2 lines next season again. At this point, the Rangers feel confident in their 1st and 2nd lines so they won't change it unless they struggle. Prucha will be a 3rd/4th liner the rest of the season and he's going to have to try to make the best of his opportunities.

I understand Renney isn't playing him enough, but honestly, would YOU change anything after what we've seen the past 5 games? Let's at least be happy that Renney put him on the 1st PP unit. He's trying to jump-start Prucha and that's the perfect place to do it.
why not give him some PK time when the Rangers have a big lead. He has the speed, maybe he can provide some offense shorthanded. That will give him even more ice time. He should get some SH chances.

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02-16-2007, 12:26 AM
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I really want to keep Prucha but if we can get Zherdev for him without giving up too much else I would love that deal
Zherdev has attitude problems. Him and Hitchcock have clashed this season. Hitch is a strict coach but if Zherdev can't handle a little toughness from his coach, I don't know how he'll pan out in the NHL. He just seems like the type of player that is very hard to coach. At least with Prucha you know that he'll always play hard for you and is always putting his body on the line.

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02-16-2007, 12:28 AM
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why not give him some PK time when the Rangers have a big lead. He has the speed, maybe he can provide some offense shorthanded. That will give him even more ice time. He should get some SH chances.
It's not the worst idea in the world but we have Betts, Cullen, Hossa, Dupuis, and Ortmeyer to play the PK. Also, you know Renney will find a way to throw Shanny out there or even Straka.

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02-16-2007, 08:27 AM
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I say yes, but forget Zherdev, I'd rather have the Jagr favorite Vyborny...

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02-16-2007, 08:33 AM
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I'm sorry but even with Hossa's emergence, I rather have Prucha on the 1st line. Hossa was given alot of time to prove himself, Prucha should be given the same amount of time Hossa was given.

Prucha has struggeled this season, but he has skill, playing him on the 4th line aint going to get him anywhere, at least put him on the 3rd. It's BS.

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02-16-2007, 08:37 AM
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Prucha stays put, wakes up tomorrow realizes that he needs to produce and starts scoring 2 goals per game for the remainder of the season and all the way into the cup finals. Thus altimatly being awarded the MVP for the playoffs.

Oh wait that was a dream....

On a more serious note I hope he stays even though it looks like we could afford to deal him at the moment, what happens if someone goes down with an injury? Do you expect Hollywood to pick up the slack...

I vote for him to stay and make my dream come true...
exactly.

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02-16-2007, 08:42 AM
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I'm sorry but even with Hossa's emergence, I rather have Prucha on the 1st line. Hossa was given alot of time to prove himself, Prucha should be given the same amount of time Hossa was given.

Prucha has struggeled this season, but he has skill, playing him on the 4th line aint going to get him anywhere, at least put him on the 3rd. It's BS.
You miss the point of why Hossa works on that line right now. Hossa is a beast along the boards, and takes up space in front of the net. Plus, he's a better defensive player than Prucha. Jagr has admitted that Hossa's work along the boards has created space for him to operate. Prucha doesn't play that type of game. Prucha is fearless, but, he needs a big center to create space for him. The signing of someone like Arnott, or a trade for someone like Lang would probably have been perfect for Prucha.

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02-16-2007, 08:47 AM
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I don't think the Kid's stressing much. Put it this way, this is not his last and final year in the NHL. He knows he has many years ahead of him and that this year he's just gotta ride it out. With the way the team is built this year it's hard to find a spot for him.

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02-16-2007, 08:50 AM
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He is not going anywhere. He is a depth wing we need. Rangers cannot afford move him or Pock at this time. In other words BETTER SIT THAN MISS. We trying to get to playoffs and possibly beyond that.

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Buy low, sell high...
Petr Prucha, say goodbye...

I think Sather is looking at Prucha like a trading chip. It's probably the right thing to do long term. He came out of nowhere, had a great rookie year, and his name is known around the league. His value is pretty good right now. I love the kid, BUT...
I don't think he has all that long of a shelf life. He gets CRUSHED every game. One of those is going to stick sooner or later, and once it does, I'm afraid he goes Tomas Kloucek and won't be the same player. Also, I think the organization sees a similar, yet more durable player in Nigel Dawes. He's smaller, offensive minded, but about 15-20 lbs bigger. I don't see the two of them in the lineup together. Prucha needs top 6 minutes to succeed. He's not getting them right now. If we can package him, and this Horton rumor is EXACTLY what this team should be looking to do, then you do it. I know I'm not always speaking the popular opinion by defending Sather, but i think the guy has a knack for realizing when a player has hit his ceiling and capitalizing on it. He nailed the Mike York trade, whether you liked Poti or not, It was a decent risk. All this being said, I think Prucha's a goner.

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Buy low, sell high...
Petr Prucha, say goodbye...

I think Sather is looking at Prucha like a trading chip. It's probably the right thing to do long term. He came out of nowhere, had a great rookie year, and his name is known around the league. His value is pretty good right now. I love the kid, BUT...
I don't think he has all that long of a shelf life. He gets CRUSHED every game. One of those is going to stick sooner or later, and once it does, I'm afraid he goes Tomas Kloucek and won't be the same player. Also, I think the organization sees a similar, yet more durable player in Nigel Dawes. He's smaller, offensive minded, but about 15-20 lbs bigger. I don't see the two of them in the lineup together. Prucha needs top 6 minutes to succeed. He's not getting them right now. If we can package him, and this Horton rumor is EXACTLY what this team should be looking to do, then you do it. I know I'm not always speaking the popular opinion by defending Sather, but i think the guy has a knack for realizing when a player has hit his ceiling and capitalizing on it. He nailed the Mike York trade, whether you liked Poti or not, It was a decent risk. All this being said, I think Prucha's a goner.

Actually, I think its more likely that they see Callahan as that player. I think his sudden (the past two years) growth in offense has altered their perception of what kind of player he can be.

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02-16-2007, 09:51 AM
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Actually, I think its more likely that they see Callahan as that player. I think his sudden (the past two years) growth in offense has altered their perception of what kind of player he can be.
You may be right, maybe Callahan has moved past Dawes. I really think that they are making decisions based upon a more complete organizational picture than we, as fans, get to see. I have never seen Callahan play, so I really can't say. I don't think they do what they have done with Prucha if they think he's in the long term plans of the franchise.

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Prucha scored 14 ES goals in 68 games last season...does he really need a big center to create space, or would Jagr, who would create just as much space, suffice? Heck, he's at around 9 ES goals this season - not bad for a kid with about 10 minutes of ice time and who has played the second, third and fourth lines.

Straka's been successful this season because he's actually finishing Jagr's setup to him on the left side - Prucha wouldn't work there? He seemed to have worked pretty well there in the past when given the opportunity. Not saying Hossa hasn't worked there, nor am I saying that things should be changed up right now, I'm just suggesting that the smallish Prucha likely would've worked well on Jagr's left side.

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maybe Prucha would do better alongside Jagr, but what about what Jagr needs? he is the most important offensive player on the team.

Prucha's not an easy player to play with. he's not a playmaker, and any line with Jagr on it already turns the puck over enough without Prucha helping out. plus he's not a puck-carrier by any stretch.

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Prucha scored 14 ES goals in 68 games last season...does he really need a big center to create space, or would Jagr, who would create just as much space, suffice? Heck, he's at around 9 ES goals this season - not bad for a kid with about 10 minutes of ice time and who has played the second, third and fourth lines.

Straka's been successful this season because he's actually finishing Jagr's setup to him on the left side - Prucha wouldn't work there? He seemed to have worked pretty well there in the past when given the opportunity. Not saying Hossa hasn't worked there, nor am I saying that things should be changed up right now, I'm just suggesting that the smallish Prucha likely would've worked well on Jagr's left side.

What I would say is that Jagr has mentioned how Hossa has opened up ice for him. Hossa goes into the corner, maintains puck possession, and I think does more damage on the forecheck. I've seen Hossa just bury defenders on the forecheck. So in that regard, he's made life easier for Jagr. I think that's part of the reason why the current configuration is working.

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I certainly hope he isn't traded.

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I certainly hope he isn't traded.
Why? I like him and think he could be a nice 2nd line LW. But, if Chicago calls and offers Jonathan Toews in a deal for him and Montoya, I'm volunteering to escort them both to LGA as we speak.

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