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02-16-2007, 12:33 AM
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if you guys don't make the playoffs this year again, would you consider trading kovalchuk to the habs for some draft picks maybe ??

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02-16-2007, 12:47 AM
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if you guys don't make the playoffs this year again, would you consider trading kovalchuk to the habs for some draft picks maybe ??


Are you waiting for Waddell to post a response?

Just kidding. But seriously. I don't see Kovalchuk being traded with Heatley off the team. He's an attraction.

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02-16-2007, 03:59 AM
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if you guys don't make the playoffs this year again, would you consider trading kovalchuk to the habs for some draft picks maybe ??
Kovalchuk is 23.
One of the best, if not the best, pure sniper in the league.
Consistent +40goal scorer for years to come.
His defensive game is coming around.

He is what you WISH your 1st round pick turns out to be in your wildest dreams.
If a player like Kovalchuk gets traded for picks, a GM is about to get fired.

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02-16-2007, 04:05 AM
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Kovalchuk IS one of the most talented offensive talents in the world, and the Thrashers would be stupid to let him go for anything. he is young and will get even better. In my oppinion they will keep him for as long as he wants to stay because he is the face and backbone of the franchise.

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Can anyone tell me what's going on with Kovalchuk this year? He is scoring less than a point per game and that doesn't seem right... has there been any problem with him?

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Can anyone tell me what's going on with Kovalchuk this year? He is scoring less than a point per game and that doesn't seem right... has there been any problem with him?

Take a quick glance to Chukky's right and you will find the answer...Rucchin.

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just no.
I concur.. and ATL will make the playoffs.. and well MTL might not

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Take a quick glance to Chukky's right and you will find the answer...Rucchin.
Might be a factor but Kovy is scoring more per game (slightly) this year than last year at even strength. It is his PP scoring that is significantly reduced this year...


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if you guys don't make the playoffs this year again, would you consider trading kovalchuk to the habs for some draft picks maybe ??
Why don't u go to the CAPS board and ask the same Q, but substitute IK17 with AO?

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02-16-2007, 10:47 AM
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Why don't u go to the CAPS board and ask the same Q, but substitute IK17 with AO?
kovalchuk is not even close to as good as ovy my friend

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02-16-2007, 12:48 PM
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kovalchuk is not even close to as good as ovy my friend
Keep telling yourself that.

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02-16-2007, 01:21 PM
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kovalchuk is not even close to as good as ovy my friend
Of course he is.
They are both lock for Rocket Richards candidate year after year.

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Of course he is.
They are both lock for Rocket Richards candidate year after year.
yes, but looks at the teams they are on....ovy is on a crappy team with few skilled players, whereas kovy is on an above average team and play on a line with hossa....

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yes, but looks at the teams they are on....ovy is on a crappy team with few skilled players, whereas kovy is on an above average team and play on a line with hossa....
No. Hossa plays with Kozlov and a revolving cast of centers. Kovalchuk plays with Sim and Rucchin.

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02-16-2007, 02:25 PM
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IK and AO are equally as good as each other i haven't seen much of IK and because of that i would rate AO slightly higher because of what i have seen he plays a better overal game

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as leaf fan i'd pretty much trade anything in our oganaztion to get him if he was on the trading block


my proposal



to tor: kovalchuk and maybe a 7th or 8th rounder



to atl: stajan,bell,riemer,1st round pick sugolbov(throw in)



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if you guys don't make the playoffs this year again, would you consider trading kovalchuk to the habs for some draft picks maybe ??

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Well done.
Thread closed.
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as leaf fan i'd pretty much trade anything in our oganaztion to get him if he was on the trading block


my proposal



to tor: kovalchuk and maybe a 7th or 8th rounder



to atl: stajan,bell,riemer,1st round pick sugolbov(throw in)


To Toronto
Kovalchuk + Rucchin

To Atlanta
Sundin, Tucker, Kabrele, Stajan, Steen, 1st 2007, 1st 2008, 1st 2009, 1st 2010.

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02-16-2007, 07:29 PM
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IK and AO are equally as good as each other i haven't seen much of IK and because of that i would rate AO slightly higher because of what i have seen he plays a better overal game
I agree. Plus you have to figure Ilya will get a heck of alot more in return than a UFA, aging, injury prone Forsberg did.

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Kovalchuk IS one of the most talented offensive talents in the world, and the Thrashers would be stupid to let him go for anything. he is young and will get even better. In my oppinion they will keep him for as long as he wants to stay because he is the face and backbone of the franchise.
Bare in mind...he is the SECOND best player on this team still. Hossa runs this team and will until he leaves. Kovi seems to be just fine with that. He will be unleashed if they can get another linemate to help him out on EV play. His PP is unmatched b/c the damn PP is stacked!

With that said...Kovi won't go anywhere. Since the ASG break he has been the only reason they have been keepin their heads in the game. Hossa's little scoring slump needs to end here really quick lol

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02-17-2007, 11:47 AM
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In theory I have no problem trading Kovalchuk for an upgrade in YOUNG elite defensemen and centers. Hossa is our real star that we should build around, even though he's 4 years older than Kovalchuk. Ten years of Hossa is nothing to sneeze at.

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In theory I have no problem trading Kovalchuk for an upgrade in YOUNG elite defensemen and centers. Hossa is our real star that we should build around, even though he's 4 years older than Kovalchuk. Ten years of Hossa is nothing to sneeze at.
I can't believe comments like this sometimes. Hossa has his 'first' REAL breakout season at 27 and is getting some recognition, after being with Atlanta all of 1.5 years, and all of a sudden becomes the face of the franchise?

I understand he may be a better more complete player right now, but Hossa is NOT the real star of this team. This IS Kovalchuk's team - he's been here since 18 years old, born and raised. For better or worse, Kovalchuk is our franchise player. Hossa only came here because of a contract disupute and the Heatley incident, and for no other reason.

I'd bet Kovalchuk is here longer than Hossa ignoring age and in terms of length of service, from this point on.

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I can't believe comments like this sometimes. Hossa has his 'first' REAL breakout season at 27 and is getting some recognition, after being with Atlanta all of 1.5 years, and all of a sudden becomes the face of the franchise?

I understand he may be a better more complete player right now, but Hossa is NOT the real star of this team. This IS Kovalchuk's team - he's been here since 18 years old, born and raised. For better or worse, Kovalchuk is our franchise player. Hossa only came here because of a contract disupute and the Heatley incident, and for no other reason.

I'd bet Kovalchuk is here longer than Hossa ignoring age and in terms of length of service, from this point on.
I agree completely.

Not to take anything away from Hossa, but this is still Kovalchuk's franchise to lose, and I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.

This isn't the first time I've seen comments saying teh team could ship Kovalchuk out an "upgrade" ?. The kid (yes he still is) is only 23..... and since his enterence into the league, he's topping the goal charts. You won't find many young players that have put up the production he has. He's put up the most goals in the NHL since his enterence in the league - that kind of talent doesn't grow on trees. If there's one mistake this team could do, it is trading Kovalchuk away, before or anytime during his prime.

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