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02-16-2007, 09:19 PM
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J-F Jacques

He scored 4 goals tonight 1 star !

JDD got a shot out ! on a 7-0 win

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02-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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He scored 4 goals tonight 1 star !

JDD got a shot out ! on a 7-0 win

*** is with that guy? He's a man amongst boys in the AHL, but he gets to the show and he turns into a kitten.




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02-16-2007, 09:55 PM
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Amazing night for Jacques, I was a bit harsh on him for not scoring many goals, then he pots 4!!! Way to go JFJ!!! Hopefully he dominates the AHL the rest of the season and is ready to make a legit push for a full-time spot with the Oilers next season.

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02-16-2007, 10:04 PM
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who cares. i'm sick of seeing him dominate in the ahl and be completely invisible when he gets the chance up here.

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who cares. i'm sick of seeing him dominate in the ahl and be completely invisible when he gets the chance up here.
He's hardly the first young player to do that sort of thing.

The NHL is the best league in the world for a reason.

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who cares. i'm sick of seeing him dominate in the ahl and be completely invisible when he gets the chance up here.
Not every player is ready for the NHL at 21. Not respecting a guy for scoring 4 goals in a game in any league, especially a professional one IMO just deserves a

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02-16-2007, 10:25 PM
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He's hardly the first young player to do that sort of thing.

The NHL is the best league in the world for a reason.
The funny thing is I get to some WBS games and some games he looks just like he looked with the Oil. The man among boys in the AHL is blown out of proportion. By the way in the games I seen he is not really hitting as much or as hard as I and many expect.

The Meemanixx or however you spell his name is at every game and is quite unimpressed with JFJ and he seems like a pretty fair and level headed poster.

Having said that good on JFJ for breaking out with a huge game. Kudos to him. Time to see if he can build on it now and show some consistency. I think he will be a player but he is a ways off yet.

I think I may have that game on my DVR, I better go check it out.

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02-16-2007, 10:28 PM
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Was Bertuzzi in the NHL at his age?

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Give him time, or you'll be SORRY!! Just think with patience, JFJ, Stortini
Winchester, add Torres, Moreau, etc. Not a bad looking bunch when the going gets tough! I am really excited about the possibilities. We may not win the cup this year but there are good things coming...

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Was Bertuzzi in the NHL at his age?
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1996-97 New York Islanders GAMES:64 G:10 A:13 P:23

Bertuzzi in his 21-22 season.

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The funny thing is I get to some WBS games and some games he looks just like he looked with the Oil. The man among boys in the AHL is blown out of proportion. By the way in the games I seen he is not really hitting as much or as hard as I and many expect.

The Meemanixx or however you spell his name is at every game and is quite unimpressed with JFJ and he seems like a pretty fair and level headed poster.

Having said that good on JFJ for breaking out with a huge game. Kudos to him. Time to see if he can build on it now and show some consistency. I think he will be a player but he is a ways off yet.

I think I may have that game on my DVR, I better go check it out.
IMO he hasn't been very happy this season for some reason or another, some of the fans who watched him in Hamilton last year saw a guy with 2nd line NHL talent. IMO for some reason or another he hasn't been happy with his situation, hoepfully he can finnish this season strong enough that it's rather obvious that he belongs in the NHL. He is now sitting at the highest PPG of all of our prospects in the AHL, as well as the highest ES PPG of all of our AHL guys. He must be doing something right although hopefully this is him turning a corner and returning to the Crazy Train!!!

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02-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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Look at Pouliot it took him a few times to get it! Paitence Grasshopper.

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Is no one EVER allowed to say anything postive about the Oilers without people having to jump in and rain on the parade?

It was a great night and obviously good for a developing player.

Good night for the lad, lets hope he continues to play well.

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02-16-2007, 11:53 PM
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who cares. i'm sick of seeing him dominate in the ahl and be completely invisible when he gets the chance up here.
Whoa down buddy, the kid is 21 years old, give him some time. Not to mention most power forward type players take some extra time to get their footspeed up and get comfortable at the NHL level.

Think of it this way, if he can continue to dominate the AHL, we could get something decent in a trade with the kid as long as we don't let trade partner look at his NHL game footage

Hearing you say this though reminds me of good old Brian Swanson, wasn't he a beast in the AHL for a few years and just never got anything going what-so-ever in the NHL?

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Good for JF, maybe he can carry some confidence through to their playoffs. Great for JDD too, it looks like he's really starting to establish himself as the WBS #1 for the playoffs as well. Also good to see Tyler Spurgeon get his first AHL point.

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The guy is useless up here. I respect a guy like Stortini. He shows what he's made up once he gets up here. He doesn't get his a** kicked in his first fight either.

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The guy is useless up here. I respect a guy like Stortini. He shows what he's made up once he gets up here. He doesn't get his a** kicked in his first fight either.
Stortini was drafted as a fighter, Jacques was not. He's a guy that can and will drop the gloves, but that isn't his biggest atribute. Jacques will surprise a lot of people that have already written him off. Remember folks, not every prospect steps in at 18-20 and is dominant.

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The guy is useless up here. I respect a guy like Stortini. He shows what he's made up once he gets up here. He doesn't get his a** kicked in his first fight either.
Pouliot was pretty useless up here the first couple callups too.. I dont think JFJ was much worse then winni, thoresen and petersen.. got the 4th line minutes which are more suitable for the stortinis or the penalty killers like reasoner\petersen. I would like to keep him in the system and still think he will be our replacement for moreau in 3yrs.

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Very good.
He is still young, and even when he sucked in his games with the Oilers, he can turn into an important 3rd line player, I hope.

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Stortini was drafted as a fighter, Jacques was not. He's a guy that can and will drop the gloves, but that isn't his biggest atribute. Jacques will surprise a lot of people that have already written him off. Remember folks, not every prospect steps in at 18-20 and is dominant.
Exactly, look at the career stats of some of the NHL's best players, and on a lot of them you will see that they spent the better part of two to four seasons in the minors, such as Daniel Briere.

You guys that give up on these young players just because they are not developing at the rate you think they should be, need to step back and think before you post.

For those of you that are writing off Shremp in other posts and suggesting we trade him, because you think he isn't going to amout to anything, because of what the MEDIA reports about his attitude................???????

Give your heads a big long shake. The Oil definately could use a guy with a little attitude and selfishness, with the puck!

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Stortini was drafted as a fighter, Jacques was not. He's a guy that can and will drop the gloves, but that isn't his biggest atribute. Jacques will surprise a lot of people that have already written him off. Remember folks, not every prospect steps in at 18-20 and is dominant.
Good point.

After Jaques got tuned by Bieksa, he was done in the "enforcer" role. Give him some minutes in a role that he's comfortable in, and let's see how he does.

Remember, big, fast, skilled, willing and strong dont come around very often. We better be damn sure he's a bust before we give up on him.

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Nope.. if I recall correctly Big Bert was still practicing really hard, trying to realize his dream as an NFL place kicker. He used puppies cause they have a bit more weight to them... and he liked the yelping noise they made.

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One guy's older and played college hockey

but I hope JFJ turns into a Penner type, ie someone big and strong who can also score when then opp presents itself.

I don't know if JFJ learned a lesson when Bieksa beat him down, BTW that kid is an absolute f**king find for the Dys. He can move the puck and he's tough and he can find. Take about finding a possible gem i the middle rounds, but if he did it's probably for the best as he shouldn't be going around gooning people anyway. JF had a good first year in the A and then he comes up to Edm this year and he has the puck on his stick about five seconds a game. During the Hemsky miracle goal game vs Dal JFJ was on the ice for the 4-2 Stefan goal and to the right of the Stars net he couldn't poked the puck off one of the Stars sticks and he just tried to kill him and missed. I'm not saying the kid should be a ***** but he's too talented for that. I think his game should be using his speed and getting on the forecheck and going to the front of the net and daring guys to move him because he's an absolute load. And of course grinding down the D as the game goes on. It probably didn't help either of him or MP that they played on the same line in the NHL or that they saw shagall time.

I love how Stortini gives himself up for the team and the elan with which he plays but there's a more rounded future for JFJ than that.

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but I hope JFJ turns into a Penner type, ie someone big and strong who can also score when then opp presents itself.

I don't know if JFJ learned a lesson when Bieksa beat him down, BTW that kid is an absolute f**king find for the Dys. He can move the puck and he's tough and he can find. Take about finding a possible gem i the middle rounds, but if he did it's probably for the best as he shouldn't be going around gooning people anyway. JF had a good first year in the A and then he comes up to Edm this year and he has the puck on his stick about five seconds a game. During the Hemsky miracle goal game vs Dal JFJ was on the ice for the 4-2 Stefan goal and to the right of the Stars net he couldn't poked the puck off one of the Stars sticks and he just tried to kill him and missed. I'm not saying the kid should be a ***** but he's too talented for that. I think his game should be using his speed and getting on the forecheck and going to the front of the net and daring guys to move him because he's an absolute load. And of course grinding down the D as the game goes on. It probably didn't help either of him or MP that they played on the same line in the NHL or that they saw shagall time.

I love how Stortini gives himself up for the team and the elan with which he plays but there's a more rounded future for JFJ than that.
Wow Matts, it amazes me how much we are still on the same page after all these years. That is exactly what I hope that Jacques will become. To pidgeon hole him into a goon, would be very foolish by this organization, and I never liked the idea from day 1. And yeah maybe he did get tuned by Bieksa, he's 21, Storts will likely run into something similar before the end of the year too. That said, don't be mistaken JFJ can drop the gloves, and while he may not be Laraque with the gloves off, he is still very young, but the kid is strong as an Ox, and that you cannot teach.

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