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04-09-2007, 12:19 PM
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But, Jester, wouldn't you rather put yourself in the position to not have to win games later by winning just one more per week in the first month of the season? Again, one more win per week in the month of April and the Phils make the post season.

By starting 1-5 the team is already 4 games under .500 and 4 games back. IMO there is nothing worse than having an uphill climb and with a slow start that is exactly what this team will have to do again.

If you want to point to the middle of the season as to why the team didn't make the post season that's certainly your perrogative. As far as I am concerned the team has their backs against the wall after the first 3 weeks of the season and couldn't climb out from that start.
obviously they couldn't... but it's a 162 game schedule and you can't cut it up and point to one section over the other... they didn't win enough games and that was that (same for the Leafs in the playoffs).

you want to win every game... you want to clinch in July... but it doesn't happen that way.

they're 1-5... 6 out of 162 games.

to win 90 games they need to go 89-67 the rest of the way... that isn't a particularly ridiculous record for a good team. so, i'm not stressing about it. if you're looking 50 games in and they're something like 20-30... then they need to go 70-42 the rest of the way, that's starting to get tougher... even for a good team.

this is a team that is built around knocking the crap out of the ball... which means they are more likely to perform well during the summer than when it's not so warm, as the ball will carry further. if they can get to 50-60 games and be a bit over .500, they aren't in too bad of shape... and Gillick is in a position to tweak the roster some via trades to help in small ways (this is what the As do and why they always take off after the start of the season).

so, yeah, i agree... ideally the team is 5-1, not 1-5. however, i just don't think it's worth getting into a fret over the record until you've gone a bit of a distance into the season... we're not even CLOSE to the quarter-pole.

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04-09-2007, 12:34 PM
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you want to win every game... you want to clinch in July... but it doesn't happen that way.
No, I don't want to clinch in July and I know that you can't win every game.

What I do want is for the team to not have a major uphill climb by starting so slowly season after season.

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No, I don't want to clinch in July and I know that you can't win every game.

What I do want is for the team to not have a major uphill climb by starting so slowly season after season.
89-67 isn't a "major uphill climb..." if this is a good baseball team, which we will find out. the point remains, though, your record is what it is at the end of 162 games... they just can't let this linger for 20-30 games like they've done in the past before they get going... especially in the division heavy play at the start of the year.

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04-09-2007, 12:49 PM
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...and this is what kills the Phillies.

Bases loaded nobody out with Utley, Howard and Burrell up and they only get one run.

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04-09-2007, 02:19 PM
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What a huge, huge, homerun by Ryan. He needed that and so did the team. Timing couldn't have been better there.

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I'm confident that the bullpen will blow this lead.

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I'm confident that the bullpen will blow this lead.
2 run lead is down to 1.

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1st and 2nd, no outs, why do Philly sports suck so much? Our bullpen has not had a single decent game.

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not watching the end of that one...

i'd just like to note: Geary's ears can pick up HDTV signals.

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Fielding error on Rollins allows the tying run to score and the bases are still loaded.

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Wild pitch by Geary, 6-5 Mets.

This team just finds new ways to lose ballgames.

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I'm confident that the bullpen will blow this lead.
So. Called. It.

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Wild pitch by Geary, 6-5 Mets.

This team just finds new ways to lose ballgames.
they are creative

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So. Called. It.
Truly that's not fair, Rollins blew a relatively easy fielders choice that would have ended the inning and the Phils would have had a 1 run lead going into the 9th.

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Truly that's not fair, Rollins blew a relatively easy fielders choice that would have ended the inning and the Phils would have had a 1 run lead going into the 9th.
Yeah true, but if the bullpen didn't decide to load the bases in the first place...

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Yeah true, but if the bullpen didn't decide to load the bases in the first place...
Regardless, Geary threw a pitch that would result in a groundball and got it.

That said it's now 11-5. Chalk up another loss for the Floundering Phils.

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Truly that's not fair, Rollins blew a relatively easy fielders choice that would have ended the inning and the Phils would have had a 1 run lead going into the 9th.
That would only have been the 2nd out. They weren't turning two on Reyes on that play.

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04-09-2007, 04:12 PM
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Yeah true, but if the bullpen didn't decide to load the bases in the first place...
silly broken bat fluke in there too... just not going there way at all right now.

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Cole gets the ol' screw job from the BP again... the kid has pitched well enough to warrant a 2-0 record.

The BP is an absolute disaster (not that that's any shock)... it's like if our starters can't go the full 9, it's virtually an automatic loss. That's not a good thing.

This team is going to be 1-8 going into its series against Houston... hopefully we can stop the bleeding against another struggling team.


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04-09-2007, 07:46 PM
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So are the Phillies worse than the Flyers


It's interesting when I make fun of the Phillies when I go to work and they say "well the Flyers blew ass this year" this is my response:


"When was the last time the Phillies made the playoffs again?"

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So I leave my house for work, it's 5-2,I get to work, it's 11-5

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haha, same thing happened to me. Hamels should be 2-0.

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The bottom line is that Gillick knew going into this season that in addition to having an inept manager that their bullpen stunk and he did nothing about it.

I don't care how good the starting pitching is, the reality of today's MLB is that starters don't pitch complete games any more and rely on the bullpen in innings 7, 8 and 9. I don't have any confidence that this bullpen can protect 1 or 2 run leads at all. So, basically, if the Phils don't have a 5 run lead any game is in doubt.

The question then becomes when do the starters get completely frustrated by the fact that no matter how good they pitch it isn't good enough?

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04-10-2007, 09:51 AM
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Our bullpen is God awful. It's the only thing costing us games. I was looking forward to the Phillies season, now they're scaring me worse than the Flyers.

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Our bullpen is God awful. It's the only thing costing us games. I was looking forward to the Phillies season, now they're scaring me worse than the Flyers.
The only thing?

How about having the bases loaded in two consecutive innings and only managing to score 1 run?

How about the fact that the Phils lead the league in runners left on base with 68?

How about Victorino striking out 1 out of 3 ABs?

How about the fact that Jimmy Rollins still thinks he is Willie Mays Hayes and won't hit the ball on the ground?

How about the fact that nearly everyone in this lineup swings at the first pitch, even when a new pitcher is put in?

How about the ineptitude of the manager and his inability to properly execute a double switch?

I don't agree with Anthony Gargano often, but he said it all this morning when he said "This team plays dumb baseball". That, IMO, comes directly from a dumb manager.

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