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02-19-2007, 11:07 AM
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Streit-Souray, a duo that works.

For the last 6 or so games, the Streit - Souray duo has looked very solid. They're + 2 in the last 2 games, and they are even together during that tenure. Has Souray finally found a partner he's suitable with? I've always thought that Streit was our second best defensive minded defenceman (behind Markov of course), I guess all he was missing was a punishing defenceman to his left All this to say that I hope that this Duo stays together for a long time, and that maybe we don't need Rivet.

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Last year when Streit came over, he said he has always played right D. So what did the Habs do? Put him on left D which made his adjustment to the NHL even tougher.

I agree that Streit should be playing D due to his puck moving abilities. But long term he is not a top 4. Some will argue that neither is Souray, so maybe that's why it works in the short term.

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I was thinking along similar lines of late, as to how well Streit has been playing on D. He continues to impress me, whether it's at forward or on D, he has the odd stumble but has adapted even more than last year and has been playing very well on D. This also helps the team as he has a very accurate first pass out of the zone.

Which also lead me to think that I'm not sure who Rivet will take out when he comes back and that it's time we put Niinimaa on waivers.

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Streit never looks bad ... but then again so did Dykhuis for a while ...

The only thing with streit is that he is an international Caliber player

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Well, I commented previously that I thought it was a duo that made think that a duo like that could work. Just not with Streit. But a player like Streit, who can move the puck and be agile, yet isn't quite so prone to errors in his own zone.

Finding the perfect partner for Souray is one of my grail quests for improving the team. It's not Rivet and it's not Komisarek, that much we now know. Somebody smooth and smart would be my target. Barring that, just somebody rock solid and dependable. Rivet has been one of my favourites for a long time, but he has pretty much played his way out of the $3M offer he had coming. If we're keeping Markov and Souray, I'd like to see that $3M(+or-) pinned on the "perfect solution" defense partner for Souray.

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I like Streit he is a very versatile player, he's done a decent job, no matter what role he's been put in. I've never even heard him complain once either, seems like a team first guy.

Ya Streit and Souray looked pretty good in there own end of late, considering they are probably not used to playing with each other unless they do in practice.

Ideally Souray should be paired with a righthanded defenceman, playing the right side. it used to be Rivet's job, but with the way he's played this year im glad it's not anymore.

Finding right handed defenceman who can make good outlets passes
while playing good defence, are very hard to find imo.

If we could clone Komisarek or get another guy like him to play on Souray rightside, I'd settle for that.

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I like Streit he is a very versatile player, he's done a decent job, no matter what role he's been put in. I've never even heard him complain once either, seems like a team first guy.

Ya Streit and Souray looked pretty good in there own end of late, considering they are probably not used to playing with each other unless they do in practice.

Ideally Souray should be paired with a righthanded defenceman, playing the right side. it used to be Rivet's job, but with the way he's played this year im glad it's not anymore.

Finding right handed defenceman who can make good outlets passes
while playing good defence, are very hard to find imo.

If we could clone Komisarek or get another guy like him to play on Souray rightside, I'd settle for that.
Komisarek and Souray look absolutely dreadful together.

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Well, I commented previously that I thought it was a duo that made think that a duo like that could work. Just not with Streit. But a player like Streit, who can move the puck and be agile, yet isn't quite so prone to errors in his own zone.

Finding the perfect partner for Souray is one of my grail quests for improving the team. It's not Rivet and it's not Komisarek, that much we now know. Somebody smooth and smart would be my target. Barring that, just somebody rock solid and dependable. Rivet has been one of my favourites for a long time, but he has pretty much played his way out of the $3M offer he had coming. If we're keeping Markov and Souray, I'd like to see that $3M(+or-) pinned on the "perfect solution" defense partner for Souray.
For some odd reason I always thought Sami Salo would be a good fit to play alongside Souray. I like his defensive and transition game. He seems to have a high panick treshold. I think he becomes a UFA this summer too.

Boyle also comes to mind, though that would need to happen via a trade.

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I thought he was Montreal's best defensemen on Saturday. Won quite a few 50-50 battles and jumped in the play a few times. And that play on the blue line was really nerve racking but very nice.

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Komisarek and Souray look absolutely dreadful together.

I've rarely seen them play together 5 on 5 if at all, anyhow i totally happy with the Markov/Komisarek pairing. I also said if we had another guy like Komisarek or we could clone him.

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I didn't watch the Blue Jackets game last night but the radio guys made it sound like Souray made some real nice defensive plays on 1 - on - 1battles. (ie stripping the puck, keeping guys outside) I really think he's defensive play hasn't been as bad as many think this year or his +/- would indicate.

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Last year when Streit came over, he said he has always played right D. So what did the Habs do? Put him on left D which made his adjustment to the NHL even tougher.

I agree that Streit should be playing D due to his puck moving abilities. But long term he is not a top 4. Some will argue that neither is Souray, so maybe that's why it works in the short term.
Please explain how you arrive at that conclusion. It doesn't follow from what you said just before it.

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For the last 6 or so games, the Streit - Souray duo has looked very solid. They're + 2 in the last 2 games, and they are even together during that tenure. Has Souray finally found a partner he's suitable with? I've always thought that Streit was our second best defensive minded defenceman (behind Markov of course), I guess all he was missing was a punishing defenceman to his left All this to say that I hope that this Duo stays together for a long time, and that maybe we don't need Rivet.
We don't need Rivet, but what to do with him ? Who wants him around the league. can we get at least a 2nd or 3rd draft pick for him ?

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It's normal that Streit looks great with Souray. Souray needs a defenceman who can skate well in order to be succesfull. Rivet is too slow and does not have enough passing skills when united with Souray.

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It's normal that Streit looks great with Souray. Souray needs a defenceman who can skate well in order to be succesfull. Rivet is too slow and does not have enough passing skills when united with Souray.
If Rivet stays, can Carbo put him back with Markov ?

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I think Rivet will be gone as soon as he's back. Koivu might not like it, but he's turning into the odd man out.

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I think Rivet will be gone as soon as he's back. Koivu might not like it, but he's turning into the odd man out.
...and if Koivu doesn't like it, what's gonna happen ? He will go back for another 20 game goal-less games ?

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...and if Koivu doesn't like it, what's gonna happen ? He will go back for another 20 game goal-less games ?
Well, we should certainly avoid that. lol.

I'm just referring to the reported friendship between Rivet and Koivu... though I would hope that they would understand that business decisions must be made.

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Well, we should certainly avoid that. lol.

I'm just referring to the reported friendship between Rivet and Koivu... though I would hope that they would understand that business decisions must be made.
They are more than friends, they are siamese twin brothers. If they are separated, I dunno if they can survive.

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They are more than friends, they are siamese twin brothers. If they are separated, I dunno if they can survive.
I'm not against re-signing Rivet in the offseason if he comes cheaply... and we move one of Bouillon or Dandenault.

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