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Craig Mactavish Report Card...

View Poll Results: Mac-T Report Card For This Season...
(A) 90-100% 7 3.57%
(B) 80-89% 36 18.37%
(C) 70-79% 67 34.18%
(D) 60-69% 54 27.55%
(F) 0-59% 32 16.33%
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02-20-2007, 01:50 AM
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Craig Mactavish Report Card...

Time to find out what kind of a job the posters on this board feel that he's done this season.

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I like how he coaches in the playoffs.

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02-20-2007, 03:37 AM
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i still think mactavish is a very good coach, but i think his relationship with some of the players may have gotten a little stagnant, mainly because of the length of his tenuer here in edmonton. but like i said, i still think he is a very good coach and has done an adequate job this season. plus he has by far the best quotes and one liners out of all the coaches in the league.

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02-20-2007, 11:13 AM
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I like how he coaches in the playoffs.

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I feel the exactly same way.

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02-20-2007, 11:17 AM
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B flat for me, i think he has done as much as he possibly can with this version of The Oilers, the D as shoddy, offence wasn't clicking, and atleast Goaltending was reliable. Yet he still gave us a chance, tried everything, and we're still in a playoff hunt, B flat for me..

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02-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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A for me - he doesn't have the horses to work with, and those who are supposedto be are playing more like ponies. LOSE-LOSE for MacT. No personel, easy as that.

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02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
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It's tough when you factor in a couple of things...

He's had a tonne of injuries on D (Staios and Tjarnqvist have both missed time), and that was one thing the Oilers couldn't afford.

Added to that, the Oilers missed Hemmer and Smyth for 9 and 10 games each, Stoll for 10 games, Moreau for 52... all players who make things happen and are veteran players that lead the team.

Combine that with Lupul and Torres (who were expected to have breakout years) basically showing up less than half the time, and it's tough to compete at the NHL level like that.

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A for me - he doesn't have the horses to work with, and those who are supposedto be are playing more like ponies. LOSE-LOSE for MacT. No personel, easy as that.
I agree with this.
I also think it is too early for this poll....the season is not over.

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02-20-2007, 01:51 PM
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Good coach or bad coach, he's been coach here a long time. I think a change is needed.

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Playing Roli till he has nothing left, and Petersen playing 20 minutes a night. He may ore may not be a great coach but he has been the worst coach this year by far. MacT tries to change players instead of changing his game plan. The way he handled Mikhnov was brutal. You give the chance that he gave to Petersen to players like Mikhnov, MAP, Schremp ect.

Playing someone with 2 hours of D experience on the backend on a 4-4 vs the fastest team and breakout was the final straw. He needs to go. The way he has ****** over Winchester is pretty sad too. All Winch does is drive to the net and create PP's for the team but I guess that's not good enough for Mac.


MacT needs to go! MacT can develop players like Horc, Stoll, Brodziak, ect.. but he can't work with skilled players. Every wonder why none of our first rounder pan out? It's because MacT favours hard workers over skilled players. That's why Mikhnov didn't make the team. If you aren't amazing defensively you won't play for MacT. Don't even bring up Hemsky. Anyone who watched him in the Q knew he was going to be a star.


MacT should be giving chances to players like Mikhnov, Rita, ect.. (playing 20 minutes a game)
not a ******** plug like Toby.


Mac thinks if he can play Toby for 20 minutes a game he can cut the game down to 2periods. Sorry Mac but in a Boxing match you can block 100 % of the punches I throw at you but unless you throw punches back you will lose every time.

Other coaches in the NHL laugh all day at MAC. Think about it. You play Toby 20 minutes a game. Toby will not score on you pretty much have 20 free minutes to try and score a goal and not worry about being scored against.

MacT would be a good coach on a team like Vancouver. A team that lacks skill but is a hardworking plugger team. MacT doesn't know how to coach skilled players and he isn't a coach you want with such a young team because he favours Vet's so much.


Please get rid of MacT.

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it's not MacT's fault that we don't have defence

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He's been able to get a reasonable consistent performance from the team this year, so I rate him in the mid-70s.

The areas of deficiency I would point to are:
- poor rotation of goaltenders (Jussi should play more)
- no prolonged winning streaks, coupled with 2 streaks of prolonged losing (the biggest one during Christmas).

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Good coach or bad coach, he's been coach here a long time. I think a change is needed.
I don't agree with the idea that all coaches have an expiry date. Some guys are capable of being career coaches - look at Scotty Bowman, Jaques Lemaire, Brian Kilrea. All coached for their entire careers.

Get your head around the fact that some guys can come back and do this thing over and over again - some years will undoubtably be better than others. And every employee of the Oilers is capable of doing a better job next year.

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I'd give him a C and agree with most of what's being said around here.

He's had to cope with a ton of injuries and has gotten the most out of one of the worst defence cores in the entire league on paper. Through all of this and while not having the personnel, he has this team with an outside shot at a playoff spot.

On the other hand, his love affair with Toby Petersen has to stop, he shouldn't be playing more minutes than every forward not named Horcoff or Smyth and he definitely shouldn't be playing as much on the PP. I'm also not a fan of his overplaying of Roloson, Markkanen's one of the better backups in the league IMO and deserves his share of time. Add in the fact that Roloson hasn't played this much in his career and is getting up there in age leads me to think this is a mistake on MacT's part. Torres and Lupul look uninterested out there most of the time, whether you put this on Torres and Lupul or direct a bit of the criticism towards MacT is anyone's choice.

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i'm reserving judgement, still. it's hard to judge MacT's coaching when he's been handcuffed the way he has been. This year: no defense, tons of injuries. Last year: no goaltending. Previous seasons: no budget.

sure, i don't get why toby sees so much icetime, or why roloson plays so many games, etc., but i also see what he was able to accomplish with a complete team during the playoffs last season.

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now if we're grading Craig SIMPSON, on the other hand, what's a lower grade than "F minus?"

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**** off with all this anti-craig simpson talk.

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**** off with all this anti-craig simpson talk.
right, our powerplay is awesome. has been for years. forgive me.

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Poor. I voted C because there's some to like, Penalty Killing is one of them. But for the most part, he's been poor this year.

Under MacT, the team has always been inconsistant. January slump? I also wonder if young or struggling players also have too much pressure to succeed placed on them - some of the things MAB said leaving town and Horcoff said at the beginning of the year.

Anyway, I don't know enough about what goes on in the dressing room to really evaluate this coach, but this is a sloppy, inconsistant team that is playing very much like they've always played under him...well, except for February this year... and I think we've seen that MacT can - with a bit of luck - take this team to a Stanley Cup, but he can't take this team to a high level of regular season play, he can't consistantly get them to play to their maximum potential, and therefore he probably won't take this team to a Stanley Cup.

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**** off with all this anti-craig simpson talk.
Is this for real?

I tend to avoid jumping on Simpson, but he has dug himself a hole this year. Put aside the strategy arguments, the Oilers have not used their existing PP personnel appropriately this year. That falls on someone's doorstep...

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...and I think we've seen that MacT can - with a bit of luck - take this team to a Stanley Cup, but he can't take this team to a high level of regular season play, he can't consistantly get them to play to their maximum potential, and therefore he probably won't take this team to a Stanley Cup.
Was this supposed to be laugh-out-loud funny?

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Was this supposed to be laugh-out-loud funny?
No.

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i dont think mac t is all that bad, u cant always blame the coach for a team struggling, this team has all the potential, they just aint doin ****. i think the whole team should focus on next year, and dump the dead weight..and maybe stop playing perterson EVERYWHERE!..plus trade J-Smith so sick of this guy...craig simpson is the only one i think needs to go

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I failed him... but it might not really be all his fault. I think the Oilers strategy and systems are flawed.

We have a team of scoring forwards who were supposed to be elite, but can't score. Our PP is horrific.

You would at least hope if your team couldn't be effective offensively, that they could play well defensively but this group can't on a consistent basis.

Bottom line is taking the players you have, no matter who they are and making them perform in games is the coaches responsability. As much as I like MacT and respect what he did in last years playoffs, he has not delivered this year.

He failed.

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I failed him... but it might not really be all his fault. I think the Oilers strategy and systems are flawed.

We have a team of scoring forwards who were supposed to be elite, but can't score. Our PP is horrific.

You would at least hope if your team couldn't be effective offensively, that they could play well defensively but this group can't on a consistent basis.

Bottom line is taking the players you have, no matter who they are and making them perform in games is the coaches responsability. As much as I like MacT and respect what he did in last years playoffs, he has not delivered this year.

He failed.
I really hope that's not your philosophy as a hockey player. I never expected my coaches to make me perform on game day... performance was my job, not my coaches.

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