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02-26-2007, 07:04 PM
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Supposedly Calder has been traded in a three way deal for Lasse Kukkonen. No confirmation anywhere yet.

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02-28-2007, 02:12 AM
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Both reasons dont make much sense to me.

We are paying a player to play for another team. We could have traded him in the offseason, sent him back down to the minors to be off the cap, or played him next season at his salary. I would rather pay Baumer 1.2 mil to play for us, even if its just as a 7th D, than pay Dallas 600K in order to not fill a roster spot. People think we "saved" money, but this is only true if we didnt have to find someone else to play, or if Baumer was so totally worthless he would never have cracked the active roster. They acknowlege sending him down was a mistake to begin with, so I doubt thats it. Besides, if we really wanted out of that contract there were better ways, ie including him in a trade package as a salary dump. All we had to do was wait until the off season.

The second reason you are WAAAY overthinking things. We had no idea who would have picked him up. It could have been any team in the league, it didnt even need to be a contender since he isnt a rental. Contenders will do things like inflate their offer for a certain player to prevent a rival from acquiring him(like Gauthier last season), but for a non contender to try to stuff a contender with cheap talent to prevent them from overpaying Florida or Phoenix for a rental? I dont see how this improves us, which is Holmgrens job.
Baumgartner call up was a mercy or karma thing. Correcting the mistake of waiving him in anger by Clarke. He was never going to play here, esp. not now after Coburn and Kukkonen are in. This gives him another chance. So WHAT if we are paying 600K next year? The Flyers aren't going to be a cap limit team next year - no point, it's rebuilding year.

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02-28-2007, 06:04 PM
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I love the young defense you could have next year

Pitkanen Parent Picard Coburn
add a good UFA on defense and maybe one on offense like Briere if Biron could convince him
Maybe Forsberg will be back also
Playoffs next year are a good possibility for Flyers
Good luck

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10-21-2007, 07:38 PM
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Best thing for him!

Hartley had no intention of playing him much this year because he hates kids--especially on the blueline. Instead he gives deVries and Sutton and Hnidy over 20 minutes per game. I can assure you that Coburn will give the Flyers 16 minutes of solid #4 defenseman minutes tomorrow night (or whenever you play next). He'll make some rookie mistakes but that will be OK for this year. Then next year, you'll see a more mature guy with some confidence and a fresh start. Down the road, Atlanta will rue the day we traded him to Philly.

Personally, I don't believe Coburn got a fair shake in Atlanta and probably never would. Coburn's presence always will remind everyone of Waddell passing on Phaneuf--include DW himself.

I think the Coburn trade was the first of DW's desperation moves to save a sinking club and his own job. The second happened today.

Anyone following the progress of Coburn in Philly-town?

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10-21-2007, 07:48 PM
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Anyone following the progress of Coburn in Philly-town?
Immaculate.

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10-21-2007, 08:41 PM
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Coburn > Zhitnik

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10-21-2007, 10:01 PM
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Don't get too excited. Coburn is soft and wasn't good enough to crack the worst D in the NHL. As an Atlanta fan, we get the better deal. Coburn will be a Phantom not a Flyer, mark my words.

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10-21-2007, 10:34 PM
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He's been excellent and I'm thrilled with that trade. He's made very very few defensive mistakes. He's hitting and standing up for teammates. He's using his speed not only to cover up for his mistakes but to create offense and beat opponents to the puck. His shot has also been impressive, he's shooting hard and he's really getting much better with his accuracy.

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10-21-2007, 11:41 PM
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He made a real nice play on Gagne's first goal the other night.

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10-22-2007, 08:18 AM
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He made a real nice play on Gagne's first goal the other night.
Ya he showed some terrific stickhandling moving across the blueline and evading several defenders. He throws the puck toward the net and Briere tips it across to a wide open Gags. That goal was all Coburn.

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10-22-2007, 10:32 AM
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The computer AI in NHL 08 could, would, and does make better trades and roster moves than Atlanta does in real life. I can only imagine the amount of Ritalin that has to be passed around during their strategy meetings just to barely contain the plague of retardation for even a mere hour.

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10-22-2007, 01:02 PM
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Who is this Coburn guy?

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10-22-2007, 01:07 PM
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We have Hatcher and Jones, ours is worse
what a difference a year makes...

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10-22-2007, 01:10 PM
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I realize Zhitnik was gonna be gone by next season anyway. I'm just not happy about who we got, a soft teddybear who cant even crack a crappy defense unit. We should have asked for a first+XLB.

Prospects are pimped so much on these boards.

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10-22-2007, 01:13 PM
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im gonna laugh when we sign Souray. Zhitnik is good enough that we didnt have to go out and break the bank on a big D contract. We could have concentrated on Drury/Gomez/Goalie.

You must be watching another Flyers team then me because Zhitnik has been our best defense man this entire year.
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10-22-2007, 01:16 PM
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yeah and how is Zhitnik working out in Atlanta? and how is Coburn working out for us again? yeah i think we won that deal. by alot.

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10-22-2007, 01:32 PM
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alcoholyca...

Don. Don is that you? Don relax. You're about as smart a hockey GM as the zamboni driver at the rink. Listen...

You screwed up (again) and you're about to lose your job. There's nothing you can do about it - so let it go.

OK Don?

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10-22-2007, 01:34 PM
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I wasn't too high on Coburn when he came here. He apparently was dogging it on the Wolves, so I thought he would do the same playing on a poor Flyers team. Thankfully, I was very wrong. He's really suprised me with his great play and is now one of my favorite players.

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