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Michael Ryder not tied for most points by a rookie

Congrats to Michael Ryder who tied Begeron for the lead in points by a rookie!!!!!!!

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Congrats to Michael Ryder who tied Begeron for the lead in points by a rookie!!!!!!!

I am sure you meant "now" and not "not" Congrats to him, though. He's going pretty unnoticed throughout the league..

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Congrats to Michael Ryder who tied Begeron for the lead in points by a rookie!!!!!!!
It's rather Jason King...

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It's rather Jason King...
It's actually both Patrice Bergeron and Jason King. They both have 16 points along with Ryder.

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Sorry i was very sick when i posted this... I just had to get to my computer and let everyone know

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its funny to see zed and ryder on the pp
the both want the puck to shoot, and zed gave him a pass tonight it was sweet

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I'm so happy for Ryder. I still think Pitkanen owes the calder more than Ryder at this point (despite the awful mistake on the Dagenais goal, one mistake does not make a season). But Ryder has been as close to a top 6 forward as we've seen in ... years. The most impressiong thing is that he does it as a rookie. The forward I'd compare him to is Mike Leclerc. They play the same kind of game (altough I've seen a lot more of Ryder than Lelclerc). The only knock I have against him is his selfishness. But I blame it on his lack of experience. He'll be a better passer when he gets used to the NHL speed.

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I'm so happy for Ryder. I still think Pitkanen owes the calder more than Ryder at this point (despite the awful mistake on the Dagenais goal, one mistake does not make a season). But Ryder has been as close to a top 6 forward as we've seen in ... years. The most impressiong thing is that he does it as a rookie. The forward I'd compare him to is Mike Leclerc. They play the same kind of game (altough I've seen a lot more of Ryder than Lelclerc). The only knock I have against him is his selfishness. But I blame it on his lack of experience. He'll be a better passer when he gets used to the NHL speed.
This the habs board. Not only does one mistake make a season, but it makes a career.

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The only knock I have against him is his selfishness. But I blame it on his lack of experience. He'll be a better passer when he gets used to the NHL speed.
I don't know if it is selfishness or if he is told to play that way. We have very few forwards who can bury the puck and have a feeling the coaching staff has instructed Ryder to put the puck on net more and leave the passing to Koivu and Ribiero.

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Ryder has played very well and has done everything they have asked him to... great to see the Habs finally have some good luck with a first year player, he seems to have the heart and desire which you need to have to have any success in the NHL.

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When was the last time a Habs rookie was in the race for the Calder? Koivu? Roy? Naslund?

Sure is a long time ago, let's all pray to the Sacred Pretzel that Ryder continues to play like that and that the Ryder-Koivu-Bulis first line is there to stay, that line is very good!

Ryder for the Calder!

(I know the season is still young )

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When was the last time a Habs rookie was in the race for the Calder? Koivu? Roy? Naslund?

Sure is a long time ago, let's all pray to the Sacred Pretzel that Ryder continues to play like that and that the Ryder-Koivu-Bulis first line is there to stay, that line is very good!

Ryder for the Calder!

(I know the season is still young )
The sacred pretzel ?

Good stuff

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It's actually both Patrice Bergeron and Jason King. They both have 16 points along with Ryder.
And there is also the mysterious Trent Hunter from the Islanders who has 16 points too. Like others said, Pitkanen is learly the no1 to win the Calder as of now. It will be fun to see who will be the runners-up but Pitkanen has already the award baring injury. Zherdev could step right into the race too. I don't think you'll see Ryder get nominated for the award... King-Bergeron have the edge right now for 2 and 3rd place and if Fleury is back after WJC, he will have recognition too.
But there is no real race for the calder.
Pitkanen will get it. He's just so damn good.

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[QUOTE=Démon Blond]When was the last time a Habs rookie was in the race for the Calder? Koivu? Roy? Naslund?

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The real question is:" when did a rookie finished the leading scorer of the Habs???"

This could happen this year...
And i wouldn't say its a good thing...

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When was the last time a Habs rookie was in the race for the Calder? Koivu? Roy? Naslund?
Honestly the last habs I remember getting serious Calder consideration was Kjell Dahlin ('86), and Chris Chelios ('84) a couple years earlier.

It's still so very early to be talking Calder race though.

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[QUOTE=Jean_Jacket41]
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When was the last time a Habs rookie was in the race for the Calder? Koivu? Roy? Naslund?

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The real question is:" when did a rookie finished the leading scorer of the Habs???"

This could happen this year...
And i wouldn't say its a good thing...
I may not be remembering this right, and I don't feel like looking it up, but didn't Richer score 50 in his rookie season?

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It's actually both Patrice Bergeron and Jason King. They both have 16 points along with Ryder.

Actually, it's Jason King, Trent Hunter and Patrice Bergeron.

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This the habs board. Not only does one mistake make a season, but it makes a career.
At times, it sure would seem that way.

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I may not be remembering this right, and I don't feel like looking it up, but didn't Richer score 50 in his rookie season?
Actually, he scored 50 in his fourth season.



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Honestly the last habs I remember getting serious Calder consideration was Kjell Dahlin ('86), and Chris Chelios ('84) a couple years earlier.

It's still so very early to be talking Calder race though.
Very early indeed. Besides, having the most points doesn't mean you have a garanteed chance at winning the calder.

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The real question is:" when did a rookie finished the leading scorer of the Habs???"

1940-41 John Quilty with 34 points.

Interesting fact that Joe Benoit finished 2nd in team scoring and was also a rookie.

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