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02-27-2007, 09:43 PM
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Ryan Smyth is the Ideal Winger for Anze

This makes perfect sense. I was stunned when I heard Smyth got dealt from Edmonton. But the good news is, there is so much bad blood there now, he more than likely would not sign with EDM in the offseason. He's going to be a UFA at seasons end & with the job Deano did in getting us cap space, we may have a perfect match.

Think about it, he could be the stone to kill 2 birds. Imagine him not only playing with Kopitar, but also as a mentor of sorts to a young power forward in the making in Dustin Brown. I have no problem in shelling out 5+ million for a guy like Ryan Smyth. He's exactly the character guy Lombardi is always referring to.

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02-27-2007, 09:47 PM
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If he was available in the offseason, he'd be my #1 choice.

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I think we're going to try to sign him, but he's way too expensive for my taste

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I think we're going to try to sign him, but he's way too expensive for my taste
With the amoutn of cap space we will have, we HAVE to try to get one game breaker. And frankly, I'd put #94 ahead of all the other UFAs including Gomez, Briere, Drury, Souray, Stuart etc. He brings things those others players cant.

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I think if we were closer to a playoff team then I would look at signing him, but if we commit say 4-5 years to him, how effective do you think his body will be come playoffs in year 3 when this team should be able to make a run. He could probably be just as effective, but I think that our money could be better spent on defensemen or an elite goalie within the next 2-3 years.

But then again I could be wrong....

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We still need a goalie and a d-man or two.

I was thinking this also.

But yea I agree. Smyth seems to be the perfect combination of physical, character, and skill for the Kopitar line. Add some flash and dance guy to that line and you should have a lot of success.

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This makes perfect sense. I was stunned when I heard Smyth got dealt from Edmonton. But the good news is, there is so much bad blood there now, he more than likely would not sign with EDM in the offseason. He's going to be a UFA at seasons end & with the job Deano did in getting us cap space, we may have a perfect match.

Think about it, he could be the stone to kill 2 birds. Imagine him not only playing with Kopitar, but also as a mentor of sorts to a young power forward in the making in Dustin Brown. I have no problem in shelling out 5+ million for a guy like Ryan Smyth. He's exactly the character guy Lombardi is always referring to.

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Why do you believe he is the ideal winger for Anze?

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Why do you believe he is the ideal winger for Anze?
I can't count how many times Anze has come down the wing and look to get the puck in front to a net crashing presence. Brown just doesn't do it enough yet. Smyth would be perfect in that sense, he makes his living below the hashmarks. Also, Brown could learn ALOT from him.

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I think if we were closer to a playoff team then I would look at signing him, but if we commit say 4-5 years to him, how effective do you think his body will be come playoffs in year 3 when this team should be able to make a run. He could probably be just as effective, but I think that our money could be better spent on defensemen or an elite goalie within the next 2-3 years.

But then again I could be wrong....

very good post.

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Too much of a commitment imo.

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I can't count how many times Anze has come down the wing and look to get the puck in front to a net crashing presence. Brown just doesn't do it enough yet. Smyth would be perfect in that sense, he makes his living below the hashmarks. Also, Brown could learn ALOT from him.
Yes he could but that would push Brown to the 3rd line as I don't think he worked out at RW.

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I think if we were closer to a playoff team then I would look at signing him, but if we commit say 4-5 years to him, how effective do you think his body will be come playoffs in year 3 when this team should be able to make a run. He could probably be just as effective, but I think that our money could be better spent on defensemen or an elite goalie within the next 2-3 years.

But then again I could be wrong....
I was going to post something but this guy said it all already.

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Smyth has character in spades and brings a multitude of intangibles to the table. This on top of his uncanny skills around the crease.

One of: Souray or Stuart AND one of: Smyth or Drury would be nice. However, I would prefer the combo of Souray and Drury.

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I have no problem in shelling out 5+ million for a guy like Ryan Smyth. He's exactly the character guy Lombardi is always referring to.

Your thoughts ?
It's gonna cost a LOT more to convince him to come to L.A.

A LOT more.

Probably 27-28 mil over 4 years - and you know what? I'd pay him.

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It's gonna cost a LOT more to convince him to come to L.A.

A LOT more.

Probably 27-28 mil over 4 years - and you know what? I'd pay him.
You're saying he deserves $7mill per year? I knew Smyth was overrated but I didn't know he was this overrated.

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There are maybe 5 forwards in the league that I would give that kind of coin.

Crosby, Ovechkin, Iginla, Hossa and Thornton. I think giving anyone but Crosby that kind of money is a recipe for disaster.

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It's gonna cost a LOT more to convince him to come to L.A.

A LOT more.

Probably 27-28 mil over 4 years - and you know what? I'd pay him.

I hope it doesnt take that much. But I would be comfortable in paying that guy up to 6 million. He's just too much of a great player to not get. Think of it this way guys, we replace Blakes salary in the years after with Ryan's.

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I hope it doesnt take that much. But I would be comfortable in paying that guy up to 6 million. He's just too much of a great player to not get. Think of it this way guys, we replace Blakes salary in the years after with Ryan's.
I thought Visnovsky was getting Blakes salary

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I thought Visnovsky was getting Blakes salary

Your ruining the moment.

In a few years:

Frolov - 4m per year
Camms - 4m per year
Kopitar - 5m per year
Visnovsky - 5.5 per year (hometown discount ???)
Smyth - 6m per year
Bernier - 850k
JMFJ - 5m per year

That would give us a great core for about 30m, leaving us (guesstimate) 17m for the role players. It's doable.

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Your ruining the moment.

In a few years:

Frolov - 4m per year
Camms - 4m per year
Kopitar - 5m per year
Visnovsky - 5.5 per year (hometown discount ???)
Smyth - 6m per year
Bernier - 850k
JMFJ - 5m per year

That would give us a great core for about 30m, leaving us (guesstimate) 17m for the role players. It's doable.
lol Do you plan on playing role players on defense too?

Did I ruin another moment?

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lol Do you plan on playing role players on defense too?

Did I ruin another moment?


Yes, you did.

In all honesty, in no way is signing Smyth risk-free. But if your gonna sign a high end forward anyway, id rather have Smyth over Drury/Gomez/Briere. And even Caronlina and Tampa have proven that you can win without a "GREAT" defensive core. We can sigh some mid level defense FA's to go along with Blake, Vis and JMFJ.

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I don't agree. Anze needs a pure sniper`

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I don't agree. Anze needs a pure sniper`
which "sniper" do you think we have a legitimate shot at possibly getting ?

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which "sniper" do you think we have a legitimate shot at possibly getting ?
Smyth might be alot of things, but he is NOT a sniper. I would consider Drury or Briere more of a "sniper" than Smyth. Smyth's goals are all rebounds, and tips in front of the net. He plays hard, is the essence of grit, and a great team guy, but if fact probably has the worst shot of any 30 goal scorer in history.

Anyways, about Smyth i would say know, for the same reasons KLowe said no to Smyth. I would have no problem paying Smyth even 6-6.5 mil this season, and the next year, maybe even the year after that, but rumour has it that Smyth wan't 5.5-6 mil from EDM(which would have an easier time than LA for obvious reasons and no competition) for the next 5 years after this one. I cannot see him being the player he is today 5 years from now. He will become a burden contract, perhaps costing us a Kopitar or Johnson. I'd rather shell out a bigger shorter contract to a Briere to add some speed and skill, without the possible longterm repercussions.

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