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02-28-2007, 12:33 AM
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Possible Todd Bertuzzi return date.

I don't want to get repetitive or anything, so I hope this hasn't been posted.

Holland said he thinks he is still 2 or 3 weeks away.

Well, on March 17 the Wings are in Vancouver to take on Bert's former club. This date is 3 weeks and 3 days away.

Wouldn't want to hurry Bert back, but would love to see him suit up against the Nucks.

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02-28-2007, 12:49 AM
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I would like to keep him away from playing Vancouver.

We want the guy to stay away from those memories. On Detroit he is a 2nd line winger. He will do best with us if he's not in the limelight but stands quietly behind the veterans like Lidstrom, Chelios, Schneider and Draper, and the younger talents like Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

With the pressure off considering he didn't come at the cost of an arm and a leg, and not being the top go to guy in Detroit he will do well.

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On the radio, Bert mentioned not playing until the end of March is what he expects.

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02-28-2007, 09:35 AM
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As long as he's in uniform for the games in April, I'd be happy. Considering the price of getting him wasn't so huge that is warrants them to rush him into the lineup. Cleary and Samuelsson are banged up and out of the lineup a little while...it would be best to not rush anyone back when you've got guys up from the minors that are willing to work hard in their absence. Hopefully the injury to Hank isn't a big deal...he's definitely a guy I wouldn't want to lose for too long.

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I don't want to get repetitive or anything, so I hope this hasn't been posted.

Holland said he thinks he is still 2 or 3 weeks away.

Well, on March 17 the Wings are in Vancouver to take on Bert's former club. This date is 3 weeks and 3 days away.

Wouldn't want to hurry Bert back, but would love to see him suit up against the Nucks.
Hey people...Spotted this thread and thought i would pop in..

I would sure like to see Bert play against us on the 17th, we havent seen him since he left, and it would be interesting to see the fan reaction, Nazzy's reaction etc etc..
Would sure make for a hyped up game..

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Hey people...Spotted this thread and thought i would pop in..

I would sure like to see Bert play against us on the 17th, we havent seen him since he left, and it would be interesting to see the fan reaction, Nazzy's reaction etc etc..
Would sure make for a hyped up game..

Which is exactly why the Wings shouldn't have him start back on this game-- even if he is ready. We want him focused on his new team and helping in the playoffs. Last thing we need is a media circus right as the season is ending. And it would be a media circus up there. All of that stuff happened nearly 3 years ago. This is the lead up to the 2007 playoffs. That's all the Wings management will care about.

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Don't be so sure playing in vancouver would be bad... that is maybe the only place where he will not get booed. It will be alot less hostile laying there than in say Colorado.

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Don't be so sure playing in vancouver would be bad... that is maybe the only place where he will not get booed. It will be alot less hostile laying there than in say Colorado.
Or Minnesota..man the wild fans sure dont like him.

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Don't be so sure playing in vancouver would be bad... that is maybe the only place where he will not get booed.
Ya think? We booed Carter mercilessly when he came back, and he had every right to sign a contract with another team.

No, I think we'd boo Bert.

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Don't be so sure playing in vancouver would be bad... that is maybe the only place where he will not get booed. It will be alot less hostile laying there than in say Colorado.

And as any Wings fan can tell you, making Colorado fans as unhappy as possible is still a pleasure. You should read some of A2Y's blogs on the "Dives"...

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Ya think? We booed Carter mercilessly when he came back, and he had every right to sign a contract with another team.

No, I think we'd boo Bert.
Yeah but I think Bertuzzi meant much more to us that Carter did. I dont think he would be booed with how long he was with us and all the good memories. I think it would be good for Bertuzzi to play against us motivation wise. He would definitley come to play hard against us.

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You guys should applaud Bertuzzi. He landed you one of the best goalies in hockey!

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I would like to keep him away from playing Vancouver.

We want the guy to stay away from those memories. On Detroit he is a 2nd line winger. He will do best with us if he's not in the limelight but stands quietly behind the veterans like Lidstrom, Chelios, Schneider and Draper, and the younger talents like Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

With the pressure off considering he didn't come at the cost of an arm and a leg, and not being the top go to guy in Detroit he will do well.
You think Bertuzzi was traded for to be a 2nd line RW? I beg to differ... Maybe he will be as he eases back into 100% game shape (*thats the optimist in me), but I fully expect him to be on the 1st line. Am I the only one here? Who gets 1st line RW ahead of him? Holmer?!?!?!?!?!

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You think Bertuzzi was traded for to be a 2nd line RW? I beg to differ... Maybe he will be as he eases back into 100% game shape (*thats the optimist in me), but I fully expect him to be on the 1st line. Am I the only one here? Who gets 1st line RW ahead of him? Holmer?!?!?!?!?!
Absolutely. The first line is doing great as it is, it needs no changes to it. It's the second line that needs help scorin, and that's where Bertuzzi could make a difference. There's a strong possibility that Bertuzzi ends up on the second line, though I can see one other possibility after Tuesday's game:

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Bertuzzi
Calder - Lang - Franzen

Franzen and Calder seemed to have some chemistry, so maybe that line will work out. We'll have plenty of time to see while Zetterberg is injured. If the lines work out like that, there would be a bit more grit on both top two lines.

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Absolutely. The first line is doing great as it is, it needs no changes to it. It's the second line that needs help scorin, and that's where Bertuzzi could make a difference. There's a strong possibility that Bertuzzi ends up on the second line, though I can see one other possibility after Tuesday's game:

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Bertuzzi
Calder - Lang - Franzen

Franzen and Calder seemed to have some chemistry, so maybe that line will work out. We'll have plenty of time to see while Zetterberg is injured. If the lines work out like that, there would be a bit more grit on both top two lines.
I guess I'm just thinking long term. Yeah... Holmer is working well now with Z and D but that could fade.

Also my thoughts are this... Who do we have a bigger investment in? Who has a bigger potential to score? I would say in both cases Bertuzzi. Taking that into consideration I would want to pair him with the player(s) he has the best chance to score with. Zetterberg and Datsyuk feeding Bertuzzi going to the net... could be better than what we have with Z-D-Holmer.

I guess its a moot point until we find out who Bert does gel with though. Maybe he and Lang will connect and everything will fall into place. Either way, I can't wait to see.

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You guys should applaud Bertuzzi. He landed you one of the best goalies in hockey!
you don't say

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Ya think? We booed Carter mercilessly when he came back, and he had every right to sign a contract with another team.

No, I think we'd boo Bert.
Carter was here for one year,and fled to a crap team for money. Bert was here for over 5 years, has multiple all-star seasons and what not - he wouldn't get booed.

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I would not expect Bert to play with D and Z. For one simple reason: Bert is the complete package. He will score. Regardless of whom he plays with. And Lang seems to be a good fit for him too.

Homer would be a borderline 4th line player and PP specialist who would score 3-5 goals outside PP when taken off this line. But his style is THE perfect match to the two. He is a 30-goal forward when paired with them. When on the 1st line he plays like a legit 1st line guy, grinding out pucks, doing the dirty work for the talented pair. They click and for those 3 together the whole is much more then the sum of its pieces!
While they might even score more with Bert it would be less if you compare the WHOLE team. I think the dropoff in Homers production would by far outweight the increase in Berts. They are flatout the perfect compliment to each other.

Only thing one could dispute woult be: When you have a line of say Calder/Lang/Bert, all in their top form, would that be the 1st line, or would it be Z/D/Homer?! So, yes, he might end up in the 1st line - but not with Z and D.

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err...

the Z/D/Homer line is the 1st line. Any line with Robert Lang on it shouldn't really even be considered a 2nd line...maybe a 9th/10th line

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Lang is absolutely capable of 70 points when running on all cylinders and clicking with his linemates.

Calder proved in Chicago that he can score in the mold of 30 goals, 50-60 Points

Bert is a 90-Point, 30-40 goal scorer when fit.

That is similar numbers to Z/D/Homer in my books. So I would say, when they really click a bit and are fit I would say there is not much difference to the first line productionwise. And honestly... when you look at past accomplishments I would rate them even slightly above the first line in terms of playoff-production. Maybe a little worse in defensive play. Granted. But after all those would be two eaqualy capable lines. PLUS: The one would be the technically great, combination/puck possession-highlight-reel-line, while the other one would be more of a grinding, physical, crash-the net line. So you would have a solid scoring regardless of which style fits better to the opponent. You would have a solid backup when one line does not fit to the flow of the game or the opponent.

Really, I like that idea more and more every day that goes by. I can't wait to see Bert on the ice. I wished it would already be tonight, hence the game is broadcasted here, or against Nashville on tuseday (dto). But well... I will still wait

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i dont think bert would get boood, i think theres a high number of canuck fans w/ bertuzzi jerseys and dont hesitate to put them on. Carter was different, he left the team basically while bertuzzi was traded. allen and auld were cheered, i expect the same for bert!

btw i find myself somewhat of a redwing fan now, if somwone manages to put the puck behind luongo, i may find myself cheering for bert n his new team!

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I think I heard that someone was aiming for possibly St. Patrick's Day for him to start playing, and now with this injury to Homer, along with Henrik, Cleary, Sammy and the rest, he may get put in to that game because of a lack of any better possibilities.

I don't think he'd get booed if he did play, because he did endear himself to Vancouver fans over the time he was there, and I don't think they would hold it against him.

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