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02-28-2007, 05:42 PM
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If I was GM. Check out this little ditty - att Kevin Lowe

I want to make all of you Oiler fans out there smile when thinking of this line-up.

Lines to Drool over then (how it can be accomplished detailed below)

Smyth - Briere - Hemsky - amazing
Torres - Drury - Lupul - One year better - Drury is awesome
Moreau - Stoll - Pisani - the checking line
Nillson/Jacques -Pouliot - Schremp - The kid line. dynamite

#1 Dman - Smith -offensive Dman and a solid D
Smid - Staios - Good combo , one year better for smid
Greene - Gilbert /Roy - Greene will be very solid

Roloson
Deslaurier - he's ready to learn from Roloson

If we sign Briere and Drury at worst case scenario 6Million for Briere and 5.5 Million for Drury + a 3.5 MM defenceman for good measure = 48.1593MM

Then let go of or trade the following players :
Horcoff 3.6MM - too expensive
Sykora 2.9MM - bye bye
Tjarnqvist 1.625MM - Shaggy needs to have some scooby snacks
Jussi Markannen 0.85 MM - Deslauriers is ready to come up
Nedved 2.356MM - I'm packing his bags as we speak
Hejda 0.9424 - Gilbert and Roy have better upside - maybe minors
Toby Petterson .450MM - Not better then Jacques or Reasoner
Thoreson 0.5175MM- minors
Reasoner 0.950MM - love the guy but Brodziak and Pouliot make him expendible
Syvret and Stortini in minors= savings of 1.049MM

= savings of over 15.24MM

so with letting these players go and signing Briere, Drury and a #1 Dman we would be at 32.9193MM

Bring up Schremp (1MM) and Nillson (700k)

= 34.6193MM


And the biggest bonus..resign Ryan Smith for 5.5MM for 3 years so we would be at 40.1193MM just over the 40MM cap


Current Oiler Roster

Gilbert Tom Defence Edmonton Oilers $730,000.00
Greene Matt Defence Edmonton Oilers $855,000.00
Hejda Jan Defence Edmonton Oilers $942,400.00
Hemsky Ales Right Wing Edmonton Oilers $3,500,000.00
Horcoff Shawn Centre Edmonton Oilers $3,600,000.00
Jacques JF Left Wing Edmonton Oilers $600,000.00
Lupul Joffrey Right Win Edmonton Oilers $1,500,000.00
Markkanen Jussi Goal Edmonton Oilers $850,000.00
Moreau Ethan Left Wing Edmonton Oilers $1,026,000.00
Nedved Petr Centre Edmonton Oilers $2,356,000.00
Petersen Toby Centre Edmonton Oilers $450,000.00
Pisani F Right Wing Edmonton Oilers $2,500,000.00
Pouliot MA Centre Edmonton Oilers $942,400.00
Reasoner Marty Centre Edmonton Oilers $950,000.00
Roloson D Goal Edmonton Oilers$4,500,000.00
Roy Mathieu Defence Edmonton Oilers $475,000.00
Smid L Defence Edmonton Oilers $984,200.00
Smith Jason Defence Edmonton Oilers $1,976,000.00
Staios Steve Defence Edmonton Oilers $1,615,000.00
Stoll Jarret Centre Edmonton Oilers $2,200,000.00
Stortini Zach Right Wing Edmonton Oilers $507,000.00
Sykora Petr Right Wing Edmonton Oilers $2,900,000.00
Syvret Dann Defence Edmonton Oilers $542,000.00
Thoresen Patric Centre Edmonton Oilers $517,500.00
Tjarnqvist Daniel Defence Edmonton Oilers $1,625,000.00
Torres Raffi Left Wing Edmonton Oilers $925,000.00
Winchester Brad Right Wing Edmonton Oilers $500,000.00

Total Salary = 33,159,300 goal = 40,000, 000 for next year

Mix and match and see what you would do as a GM this summer to improve our roster. Should be fun to see what you all come up with.

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02-28-2007, 05:53 PM
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Just a Note. Even if we cant get ryan back for 5.5 we can still keep Horcoff for 3.6 or pick up Hartnell for around 3.8 -4MM

So this of course is the best case scenario because I am a huge Ryan smyth fan.

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Smyth - Briere - Hemsky - amazing
Torres - Drury - Lupul - One year better - Drury is awesome
Moreau - Stoll - Pisani - the checking line
Nillson/Jacques -Pouliot - Schremp - The kid line. dynamite

#1 Dman - Smith -offensive Dman and a solid D
Smid - Staios - Good combo , one year better for smid
Greene - Gilbert /Roy - Greene will be very solid

Roloson
Deslaurier - he's ready to learn from Roloson

5.5+6.0+3.6
1.8+5.5+2.3
2.5+2.2+2.5
0.9+0.9+0.8
3.5+1.9
0.8+2.4
1.0+0.8
3.6
0.7

49.6M is what ur lineup adds up to.. with about a million dollar of addition\subtraction.

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02-28-2007, 06:17 PM
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where the hell was my math skills..lol ...

Let me rework this for a bit ... Still would like Briere and Drury but hmmm



damn 49.2 MM... hmmmm

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your not gonna get a #1 dman for 3.5 million and if I recall correctly isn't Drury not to keen on playing anywhere in Canada (after he left Calgary). Also I don't see Buffalo losing both.

l would leave drury off and sign a cheaper hartnell instead of Smyth (not a popular choice but thems the economics). Stoll can play 2nd line center. Trade Horcoff for a # 2 - 4 dman. Reasoner can play 4th line center unless Brodziak is ready.

Also is Rolosons cap hit is not 3.6? I know that's his salary

Hartnell - Briere - Hemsky
Torres - Stoll - Lupul
Moreau - Pouliot - Pisani
Jaques - Reasoner/Brodziak - Stortini/Thoreson/Peterson

#1 - Smith
Smid - #2
Greene - Staois

Roloson
Jussi (I don't think JDD is ready just yet)

Don't know what the cap hit would be but its gotta be pretty close to 45M not sure if EIG is willing to go that high


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As ogorr said Drury couldn't get outta Canada fast enough when he was with the Flames, I doubt he'll be back. You can scratch Nedved, Sykora, Markannen off of your list they won't be back.

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As ogorr said Drury couldn't get outta Canada fast enough when he was with the Flames, I doubt he'll be back. You can scratch Nedved, Sykora, Markannen, and Winchester off of your list they won't be back.

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where the hell was my math skills..lol ...

Let me rework this for a bit ... Still would like Briere and Drury but hmmm



damn 49.2 MM... hmmmm

Lines to Drool over then (reworked)

Smyth - Briere - Hemsky - amazing
Torres - Stoll - Lupul - One year better
Jacques - Pouliot - Pisani - the checking line
Nillson - - Schremp - Brodziak The kid line. dynamite

#1 Dman - Staios -offensive Dman and a solid D
Smid - Greene - This will work
Roy - Gilbert - I really like Gilbert as a player

Roloson
Deslaurier - he's ready to learn from Roloson

Ok so lets see how this works

5.5+6+3.6
1.8+2.2+2.3
0.9+0.9+2.5
0.8+0.8+1

3.5 + 2.4
0.8 + 1.0
0.8 + 0.8

3.6
0.7

Wow Still at 41.9MM even with letting my Dream of Drury playing for us go as well as giving Moreau the boot... We are in trouble unless we pick up some cheap talent.

What would you all do with our players.

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As ogorr said Drury couldn't get outta Canada fast enough when he was with the Flames, I doubt he'll be back. You can scratch Nedved, Sykora, Markannen, and Winchester off of your list they won't be back.
Fully agree. All the roster players I have listed were just for Salary purposes so we can creat the lines we would like to see.

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Lines to Drool over then (reworked)

Smyth - Briere - Hemsky - amazing
Torres - Stoll - Lupul - One year better
Jacques - Pouliot - Pisani - the checking line
Nillson - - Schremp - Brodziak The kid line. dynamite

#1 Dman - Staios -offensive Dman and a solid D
Smid - Greene - This will work
Roy - Gilbert - I really like Gilbert as a player

Roloson
Deslaurier - he's ready to learn from Roloson

Ok so lets see how this works

5.5+6+3.6
1.8+2.2+2.3
0.9+0.9+2.5
0.8+0.8+1

3.5 + 2.4
0.8 + 1.0
0.8 + 0.8

3.6
0.7

Wow Still at 41.9MM even with letting my Dream of Drury playing for us go as well as giving Moreau the boot... We are in trouble unless we pick up some cheap talent.

What would you all do with our players.
What about Markov in the top 2 pairing for say 2 - 2.5 then we can be at the 40MM mark

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Both Markovs are gonna get 4+ if Brewer got 4

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As ogorr said Drury couldn't get outta Canada fast enough when he was with the Flames, I doubt he'll be back. You can scratch Nedved, Sykora, Markannen, and Winchester off of your list they won't be back.
I thought Drury was pretty surprised and disappointed to be moved out of Calgary after he was traded there and had sweet nothings whispered into his ear by the management.


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Anyway, I'd be really hesitant to sign one of the Buffalo Stars this off-season (even assuming we could and for the prices listed). There's something about that team as a whole that's just clicking and I think it's greater than the sum of its parts. I really wouldn't be surprised to see any free agent defectors ultimately disappoint in their new destination.

(Of course, I thought something quite similar about Savard last off-season...)

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Does anyone have a list of all the possible UFA's for this summer.. this would help us possibly create a winning blueprint for a team.. I definitely hope Horcoff is not here. We have too many players of his ilk

Sykora cannot be back and Nedved was a mistake

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How about this:

Hartnell (3) - Briere (6) - Hemsky
Sykora (3) - Horcoff - Lupul
Torres (1.5) - Stoll - Moreau
Nillson - Pouliot - Thoresen/Reasoner

Timonen (4.5) - Smith
Smid - Staios
Hejda (1.5) - Grebs (1) / Gilbert / Roy

Roloson
JDD

At the draft,

Trade Pisani + Greene + 1st to NSH for Cody Franson + Hartnell and then re-sign Hartnell.

Comes out to around 47M.

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Yeah what the heck was that contract for Brewer.. isnt that a major over payment ...

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How about this:

Hartnell (3) - Briere (6) - Hemsky
Sykora (3) - Horcoff - Lupul
Torres (1.5) - Stoll - Moreau
Nillson - Pouliot - Thoresen/Reasoner

Timonen (4.5) - Smith
Smid - Staios
Hejda (1.5) - Grebs (1) / Gilbert / Roy

Roloson
JDD

At the draft,

Trade Pisani + Greene + 1st to NSH for Cody Franson + Hartnell and then re-sign Hartnell.

Comes out to around 47M.

I like it but I have this gut feeling Smyth is coming back ... from his press conference he seems to love everyone in edmonton from the teller at Safeway to the parking lot attendants.

Lowe left the door wide open with his comments on the radio today as well..

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How about

Hossa Horcoff Hemsky
Torres White Pisani
Moreau Stoll Pouliot
Reasoner Brodziak Winchester

Smith Pitkanen
Staios Smid
Gilbert Saarich

Roloson
Jussi

Trade Lupul, Greene, a 1st, Schremp for Hossa (optimistic maybe)

Trade Chorney, a 1st, Deslauires, and something like a 2nd for Pitkanen (again maybe optimistic)

That looks like a dman good team to me. I wonder how much they would cost us. I would assume White would cost around 1.75. Saarich around 1.8 and Pitkanen around 3.5-4. I am not positive but that seems like it could fit under our cap/budget

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How about

Hossa Horcoff Hemsky
Torres White Pisani
Moreau Stoll Pouliot
Reasoner Brodziak Winchester

Smith Pitkanen
Staios Smid
Gilbert Saarich

Roloson
Jussi

Trade Lupul, Greene, a 1st, Schremp for Hossa (optimistic maybe)

Trade Chorney, a 1st, Deslauires, and something like a 2nd for Pitkanen (again maybe optimistic)

That looks like a dman good team to me. I wonder how much they would cost us. I would assume White would cost around 1.75. Saarich around 1.8 and Pitkanen around 3.5-4. I am not positive but that seems like it could fit under our cap/budget
Could we put Horcoff and Smith and a first for Hossa instead of Lupul and Schremp.. These players have some serious upside..Schremp is on fire tonight now that He has someone Nillson to get him the puck. 2 goal and an assist and it is just the end of he second. I think he has about 8 or 9 shots already

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How about

Hossa Horcoff Hemsky
Torres White Pisani
Moreau Stoll Pouliot
Reasoner Brodziak Winchester

Smith Pitkanen
Staios Smid
Gilbert Saarich

Roloson
Jussi

Trade Lupul, Greene, a 1st, Schremp for Hossa (optimistic maybe)

Trade Chorney, a 1st, Deslauires, and something like a 2nd for Pitkanen (again maybe optimistic)

That looks like a dman good team to me. I wonder how much they would cost us. I would assume White would cost around 1.75. Saarich around 1.8 and Pitkanen around 3.5-4. I am not positive but that seems like it could fit under our cap/budget
I do like the thinking but I also think Stoll has more offensive upside then White. But I like White as a third line centre if we get him .Our organization is soo deep in centres now though. Even my idea with Briere and Drury was pretty far fetched. I think we will get briere

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I do like the thinking but I also think Stoll has more offensive upside then White. But I like White as a third line centre if we get him .Our organization is soo deep in centres now though. Even my idea with Briere and Drury was pretty far fetched. I think we will get briere
Ya but I think White would work better with Torres and Pisani. He is a smart quick player a lot like Peca was. That 3rd line might be our 2nd line anways. Either way, I see all 3 lines being able to play in all situations so that is a bonus over this year.

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Could we put Horcoff and Smith and a first for Hossa instead of Lupul and Schremp.. These players have some serious upside..Schremp is on fire tonight now that He has someone Nillson to get him the puck. 2 goal and an assist and it is just the end of he second. I think he has about 8 or 9 shots already
Sure we could but Atlanta would want some value coming back for a superstar like Hossa as well.

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Sure we could but Atlanta would want some value coming back for a superstar like Hossa as well.
Good point. It would be quite a salary dump for Atlanta.. interesting thought and a great scorer ..superstar talent

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Sure we could but Atlanta would want some value coming back for a superstar like Hossa as well.
i think any deal for hossa needs to include smid, shremp ++

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Hossa wow!! I think that is such an interesting thought. So we all would rather have Hossa then briere?

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Lines to Drool over then (reworked)

Smyth - Briere - Hemsky - amazing
Torres - Stoll - Lupul - One year better
Jacques - Pouliot - Pisani - the checking line
Nillson - - Schremp - Brodziak The kid line. dynamite

#1 Dman - Staios -offensive Dman and a solid D
Smid - Greene - This will work
Roy - Gilbert - I really like Gilbert as a player

Roloson
Deslaurier - he's ready to learn from Roloson
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2 AHL forward lines and 2 AHL defensive pairing wont get us in the playoffs.. the torres-stoll-lupul lines was nothing special this year and will again be a defensive liability with streaky scoring.
Hartnell and Whitney are the guys to go after in the offseason..

Hartnell-Horcoff-Hemsky (tripleH)
Torres-Stoll-Whitney
Moreau-Pouliot-Lupul
Stortini-Reasoner-Pisani
(27.5M)

Smith-xxx
Smid-Staios
Gilbert-Hejda
Greene
(8+??)

Rolo\backup
(4.5)

comes to 40M without a #1 dman. RW is overloaded where we need to trade away either lupul (better choice) or pisani ..

Horcoff+Lupul+Greene for ......... #1 center or #1Dman

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