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03-02-2007, 10:52 AM
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Food for thought: Splitting up Brown and Kopitar

Not that I am sure of what the options are, but that WAS the best Dustin Brown of the season last night.

Your thoughts?

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03-02-2007, 11:07 AM
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Best that I've seen this year. Interesting that he stepped up his game in a more puck-control/passing/setup role. Not to mess with success, but if he could continue to perform in that type of role I think it'd be interesting to put him at RW on the first line and let Cammalleri center it with Frolov on the left. Nothing against Armstrong, just a curious experiment since we aren't making the playoffs this year.

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03-02-2007, 11:13 AM
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I think playing on a line with Anze Ivanans really helped Brown last night. In other words, as a passenger on a line with Kopitar, Brown has been meh. As a driver on another line, much better. No need for Crawford to mess with the Brown - Ivanans - O'Sullivan line at the moment. Seems that maybe both Brown and O'Sullivan worked a little differently with their new linemate last night..

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03-02-2007, 11:29 AM
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i think Brown has to be able to play the same type of game together with Kopitar...why wouldn't he? i think he played a great game, last night, lets hope he keeps this up.

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Splitting them up might not be such a bad idea, honestly. Brown was more assertive and creative with the puck last night, and it showed up on the score sheet.

Usually with Kopitar, he's throwing his big hits and what not, but he's waiting for Anze to make the plays and get to the other end, kind of taking a step back and watching him do the work.

Patty was pretty assertive last night, too; he played a bit more of an aggressive game, which was nice to see. Def. wouldn't be such a bad idea.

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Not that I am sure of what the options are, but that WAS the best Dustin Brown of the season last night.

Your thoughts?
I posted the same thought yesterday on the-site-that-shall-not-be-named. Actually, Foxy didn't come right out and say that it would be a good idea, but he did make an observation yesterday (I think during the post-game), that "from the standpoint" of Kopitar not being there, Brown was a lot more assertive and it produced tangible results.

Now the question is whether Crow could make the same connection and test this theory over the course of at least few games. I agree with you that he should.

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After seeing Ivanans replace Kopitar on that line last night, I think Kopitar is going to have a tough time cracking the lineup again ...especially if it's Ivanans he has to fight to get his spot back.

I can see it now... Ivanans skates up to Anze before a face-off in practice and says "Wanna Go..... Square up? OK... Good Luck!"

Just remember before you start putting Brown on a line with a couple of less assertive guys that Anze has the space to skate and maneuver in no small part because #23 spends half of his night knocking guys into next Tuesday for him.

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Not to mess with success, but if he could continue to perform in that type of role I think it'd be interesting to put him at RW on the first line and let Cammalleri center it with Frolov on the left.
That might not work as well because if you've looked at Frolov's game, he too likes to control the puck and initiate the offense -- just like Kopitar.

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i think Brown has to be able to play the same type of game together with Kopitar...why wouldn't he?
He can't play that same type of game with Kopitar because Kopitar wants to play the exact same way. That's why people have been talking in this thread that Brown defers to Kopitar and doesn't take charge as he did last night when paired with Ivanans and O'Sullivan.

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Brown looked pretty damn awesome last night. Keep him with O'Sullivan and Ivanans.

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I know one game doesn't mean a lot but in my eyes Dustin Brown showed real versatility and knowledge of the roles he has been asked to play. That shows a tremendous amount of maturity, and if he keeps this up really enhances his value to the Kings and anyone else who may be interested in him.
Good job Brownie!

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I can see it now... Ivanans skates up to Anze before a face-off in practice and says "Wanna Go..... Square up? OK... Good Luck!"
Maybe not so far fetched given the Kopitar injured at the end of practice story they're floating...

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ok so if the first two lines will be like this:

Brown - O'Sullivan - Ivanans
Frolov - Armstrong - Cammalleri

where should Kopitar be? 3rd line with Lundmark and Willsie? mentioning that, i think Kopitar and Lundmark would fit pretty good...

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Thornton - Kopitar - Lundmark
Frolov - Armstrong - Cammalleri
Brown - Anze Ivanans - O'Sullivan
Stephenson - Willsie - TK

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Thornton - Kopitar - Lundmark
Frolov - Armstrong - Cammalleri
Brown - Anze Ivanans - O'Sullivan
Stephenson - Willsie - TK
I haven't been hugely impressed with Army's play over the last few games. Seemingly, Cammalleri and Frolov are doing it themselves. Perhaps the time is ripe to put together the Colonel Sanders line?

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I haven't been hugely impressed with Army's play over the last few games. Seemingly, Cammalleri and Frolov are doing it themselves. Perhaps the time is ripe to put together the Colonel Sanders line?
When you've only got three top-6 forwards on a team, I'm not sure putting them all on the same line is a good idea?

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Thornton - Kopitar - Lundmark
Frolov - Armstrong - Cammalleri
Brown - Anze Ivanans - O'Sullivan
Stephenson - Willsie - TK

Thornton was taking a few shifts at center last night.

Maybe throw Stephenson on the top line to make some space for Kopitar?

Stephenson-Kopitar-Lundmark
Frolov-Army-Cammalleri
Brown-O'Sullivan-Ivanans
Willsie-Thornton-TK

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I must be missing something, not seeing Zeiler on any of those lines. Maybe my eyes are deceiving me.

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When you've only got three top-6 forwards on a team, I'm not sure putting them all on the same line is a good idea?
I don't see why not, at least temporarily, just to see how it works, and at the same time to see if Brown/O'Sulky/Whoever combo can work on a consistent basis. What do we have to lose?

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I must be missing something, not seeing Zeiler on any of those lines. Maybe my eyes are deceiving me.
I like Z, put him in the lineup in Stephenson's spot if you'd like...

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I don't see why not, at least temporarily, just to see how it works, and at the same time to see if Brown/O'Sulky/Whoever combo can work on a consistent basis. What do we have to lose?
You're probably right and we'll likely see a lot of line combinations as they play-out the season...

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I like Z, put him in the lineup in Stephenson's spot if you'd like...
They said Shay was on emergency call-up status, so I don't expect him to be up for very long.

I think Zeiler will be with this team for the rest of this year, and possibly at the start of next season. He's like a less talented Avery without the stupid ****.

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What about Frolov-Kopitar-Camy line? I doubt it, since you don't usually put your best players on one line, but maybe on powerplay?

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What about Frolov-Kopitar-Camy line? I doubt it, since you don't usually put your best players on one line, but maybe on powerplay?
This is what bothers me about Crawford. Kopitar is the best passer on the Kings and the two best finishers are Cammy and Frolov, and they rarely play with him.

If they keep Kopitar with Brown, they need a sniper to compliment that...ala Chris Drury.

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What about Frolov-Kopitar-Camy line? I doubt it, since you don't usually put your best players on one line, but maybe on powerplay?
King Blazer and I just exchanged opinions on this matter in this very thread.

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Brown looked pretty damn awesome last night. Keep him with O'Sullivan and Ivanans.
When Kopitar comes back, put him with Frolov and Cammy and Army with Brown and O'Sully. Brown can carry the puck in, Army can grind it out in the corners and down low, and O'Sully can look for the shot like Cammy does. I think that would balnce out the top 2 lines better.

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