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03-04-2007, 09:26 AM
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Mukler tried to trade Gerber and Corvo at the deadline

...according to TFP.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ott070304.html

Whats your reaction. I think those would have bee good moves.

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03-04-2007, 09:40 AM
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I think its obvious that we are going to try to move Gerber in the summer. Corvo isn't nearly as bad a contract as many would have you believe, so I see him staying.

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I really hope he manages to move both of them, thats if he is still our GM then...

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03-04-2007, 10:27 AM
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What did I tell you? It made no sense that Chiarelli offered and Mucks rejected. He can't be that crazy.
Like I said, some players have to go eventually. I think it would've been a great deal!

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Regardless, I prefer Gerber over Thomas, and Corvo has stepped up since Christmas.

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Regardless, I prefer Gerber over Thomas, and Corvo has stepped up since Christmas.
How does it make any sense to have a backup goaltender counting nearly $4 million against the salary cap?

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03-04-2007, 11:06 AM
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The Senators have to trade either Gerber or Corvo before next season...otherwise, the fans will be pretty surprised and disappointed as to the other players who leave town.

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How does it make any sense to have a backup goaltender counting nearly $4 million against the salary cap?
He is not hurting the team and is good insurance if Emery gets hurt or falters. We can move Gerber in the off season, most of his salary has been paid for this year, might as well keep him for the rest of the year.

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03-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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How does it make any sense to have a backup goaltender counting nearly $4 million against the salary cap?
It doesn't next season, but the boat has sailed for this year. Keeping Gerber was the best option.

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03-04-2007, 11:24 AM
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If Emery only goes for 2.5 I will be very happy.

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He is not hurting the team and is good insurance if Emery gets hurt or falters. We can move Gerber in the off season, most of his salary has been paid for this year, might as well keep him for the rest of the year.
Thomas would have been just as good an insurance come playoff time. Both are just as inconsistent as one another. Only difference is one has the salary of a backup goalie. However, if dumping Gerber's salary comes at the price of losing Schubert, then I am happy this trade didn't go down.

They should hypnotize Gerber into thinking he's playing Team Canada everytime he starts for us.

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If Emery only goes for 2.5 I will be very happy.
he has no choice, 2.5 mill is fair at his rfa status with no arbitration rights.

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he has no choice, 2.5 mill is fair at his rfa status with no arbitration rights.
I'd doubt if he gets that much on a one year deal.

He might get 2.5 if he signs for 3 or 4 years. But if you look at lots of starting goalies not named Luongo or Brodeur, they make 2-3 million and the guys the have UFA contracts like Turco, Fernandez etc make like 5 million.

If you look at Kiprusoff's contract he got 10 million over 3 years, but he also had more years of experience, and had a ridiculously good season and Vezina nomination to go with it. Plus he's also older and closer to UFA status.

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If Emery only goes for 2.5 I will be very happy.
Hopefully a many year deal at 2.5 mil....

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He is not hurting the team and is good insurance if Emery gets hurt or falters. We can move Gerber in the off season, most of his salary has been paid for this year, might as well keep him for the rest of the year.

Absolutely. Every effort will be made to move Gerber in the offseason, but for the rest of this year I would rather have Gerber than Tim Thomas.

Trade Gerber for a draft pick at the entry draft; sign Cujo to split time with Razor next year.

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03-04-2007, 06:21 PM
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He is not hurting the team ...
Might want to talk to Chris Phillips about that one.

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What did I tell you? It made no sense that Chiarelli offered and Mucks rejected. He can't be that crazy.
Like I said, some players have to go eventually. I think it would've been a great deal!
What or who is The Fourth Period? Another rumour site?

I realize this isn't your thread, but it would be nice to know if this site is even half as unreliable as HockeyBuzz.

Regardless, sometimes player trades have nothing to do with being an even player for player/dollar for dollar move. For example, Mara was traded later the same day, and this is his 3rd organization in less than a year. Maybe there's something to that - but maybe not.

All I'm saying is that trades aren't always just a straight hockey decision.

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03-04-2007, 06:42 PM
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Might want to talk to Chris Phillips about that one.
Melnyk should write a letter to the league about protecting our star players from vicious slashes from teammates! 5 game suspension for that dirty cheapshot Gerber! You know Ottawa is a dirty team when they start to cheapshot their own guys.

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That's a shocker

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03-04-2007, 07:54 PM
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Melnyk should write a letter to the league about protecting our star players from vicious slashes from teammates! 5 game suspension for that dirty cheapshot Gerber! You know Ottawa is a dirty team when they start to cheapshot their own guys.
I think the league should ban him from the league or let us rip up his contract in the summer. That was a dirty slash after all.

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Personally, I doubt Gerber could be moved easily at the draft - I think his contract makes it more likely to be a trade closer to traning camp when all of the UFA deals have been made and someone is left without a chair. The same could be true of Corvo, though someone might be willing to take a chance on him, not wanting to wait to see what the UFA market is for puck-moving defencemen. Either way, I think Muckler should adopt a sign-first policy with all of Phillips, Emery, Volchenkov, Preissing, and Schubert. While it's kind of a bad business tactic, if push comes to shove they can always send one of Gerber or Corvo to the AHL if it really gets to be a crunch with some of the more critical elements of the team. The choice between the reputation hit for doing such a thing, and trying to replace one of your two most effective defencemen, your starting goaltender, your primary return on a major trade, and a very cost-effective rising young player is no choice at all.

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03-04-2007, 08:37 PM
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Personally, I doubt Gerber could be moved easily at the draft - I think his contract makes it more likely to be a trade closer to traning camp when all of the UFA deals have been made and someone is left without a chair. The same could be true of Corvo, though someone might be willing to take a chance on him, not wanting to wait to see what the UFA market is for puck-moving defencemen. Either way, I think Muckler should adopt a sign-first policy with all of Phillips, Emery, Volchenkov, Preissing, and Schubert. While it's kind of a bad business tactic, if push comes to shove they can always send one of Gerber or Corvo to the AHL if it really gets to be a crunch with some of the more critical elements of the team. The choice between the reputation hit for doing such a thing, and trying to replace one of your two most effective defencemen, your starting goaltender, your primary return on a major trade, and a very cost-effective rising young player is no choice at all.
I agree that he shouldn't wait to sign people while he figures things out. Lamoriello showed that no matter what your cap problems, if you're creative you can find a way out of it. I think the team has also been screwed by taking the wait and see approach with guys like Spezza, Redden, Chara.

Chara and Redden likely would have signed contracts in the 5 million range at the end of the lockout before the value of d-men had skyrocketed and if they had been signed to long term deals even before the lockout even in the 6 or 7 million dollar range, with the rollback that would have equated to far less than they get now.

But anyways and with Spezza Muckler had the chance to sign him long term in '05 but chose to give him a one year deal and 'show his worth' which then turned out to really high. Same thing with Hossa, he wasn't signed to a long term deal before the lockout and then his value is set at 6 million.

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03-04-2007, 08:59 PM
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Spezza probably wanted a one-year deal in '05. I don't see why he would have signed long-term.

The team was trying to lock up all of Redden, Chara and Hossa right after the lockout, throughout the entire year for the two defencemen. They didn't go for it - and wouldn't have signed "in the 5 million range".


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03-04-2007, 10:10 PM
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Forget trading Corvo he's actually good bang for the buck. If any D should be moving it should be Redden.

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03-04-2007, 10:46 PM
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I wouldn't be suprise if Gerber gets treaded. If you look at the numbers, he isn't having that bad of a season anymore. Teams like Florida, L-A, Phoenix and Colombus didn't have good goaltending this year and may want to take a chance on him. If nobody is interested in the summer, maybe we'll have to keep him until a team has an injury or even as late as trade deadline.

On the other hand, Corvo has been playing a lot better lately. He was the team's worst +/- player in early january. He's back at 0 with today's game. His value has gone up a bit since then. But I like Preissing's game better, we should try to keep him along with Phillips and Volchenkov.

All that beeing said. Why did Muckler sign two guys to long wealthy contract when they didn't have any history with Ottawa? But we can't sign a franchise player like Spezza to more than a 2 year contract...

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