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Cherepanov broke the Pavel Bure's record

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03-07-2007, 08:43 PM
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Anybody has a video of fly representation by Cherepanov? I've been looking for him on youtube, but to no avail.
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03-07-2007, 08:51 PM
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but didnt bure do it in less games?

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hearing bure's name gives me chills.. i miss him playing hockey

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I think the papers weren't about his birthdate...

Pavel needed something like 10 games of pro-hockey (RSL ?) to be available at the draft (1989), and he had only played 9... Everybody thought he would be first overall the year after (1990), but it seems that Canucks management found an old gamesheet with Bure's name on it, so they took a flyer on him in the later rounds of the 1989 NHL entry draft and won their case... If I remember correctly !
That's correct. Igor Kuperman was the man who helped the Canucks prove Bure played more than the minimum req. amount of games for elligibility.

Also, what kind of ice time is Cherepanov seeing? Bure was not on the top line when he set that record. Had he seen top time he may have scored more.

Either way, congrats Alexei!!

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03-08-2007, 12:52 AM
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Pavel needed something like 10 games of pro-hockey (RSL ?) to be available at the draft (1989), and he had only played 9...
I thought he had already played 37 games in the RSL before that 89 draft.

Also, the guy who said Bure did it in less games is right. Bure did it in 32 games. The following year Bure only scored 14 in 46 games though. But the year after that, 35 goals in 44 games.

Let's see if Cherepanov can do that.

(BTW, Ovechkin in his 4 seasons in the RSL, only twice scored 13 goals, 36 goals in 151 RSL games)

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I think he's going to be hella good in the NHL. I like his style translating into the pro's, personally.

Funny, because that's one of the knocks I see people talking about regarding his play... no sir.

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03-08-2007, 08:34 AM
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I thought he had already played 37 games in the RSL before that 89 draft.

Also, the guy who said Bure did it in less games is right. Bure did it in 32 games. The following year Bure only scored 14 in 46 games though. But the year after that, 35 goals in 44 games.

Let's see if Cherepanov can do that.

(BTW, Ovechkin in his 4 seasons in the RSL, only twice scored 13 goals, 36 goals in 151 RSL games)
and who cares if he didnt and if he does? does that make him a bad hockey player because he didnt break a record?

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Maybe Washington should try and get their hands on him, if they dont get Alzner.

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03-08-2007, 12:18 PM
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Maybe Washington should try and get their hands on him, if they dont get Alzner.
I honestly don't think that he'll be around by the time Washington picks, but you never know.

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03-08-2007, 12:20 PM
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Maybe Washington should try and get their hands on him, if they dont get Alzner.

unless Washington gets the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd pick i dont see them being able to take him.

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03-15-2007, 11:39 AM
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Yesterday 18 old Alexei Cherepanov scores two goals(against Amur) and he became,the rookie who score most goals in history of russian championships(not only RSL)Now he has one more goal,than Pavel Bure(17)when Pavel was a rookie.
The young russian has 18 goals and 12 assists in 46 games.
Are those his final regular season stats? If not, Does anyone have his final regular season stats?

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Are those his final regular season stats? If not, Does anyone have his final regular season stats?
18G + 11A - "+14" - 2 GWG - 2 PPG - 45 PIMs

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03-15-2007, 02:08 PM
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It doesnt hurt that he is on a line with Morozov who broke the league record for points this year.
No, Cherepanov doesn't even play for the same team as Morozov. Cherepanov plays for Avangard Omsk. Morozov plays for Ak-Bars Kazan.

Is the regular season over in Russia already?

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It's funny when people dont have a clue whats going on, but feel the need to make statements without having done any research at all.

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unless Washington gets the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd pick i dont see them being able to take him.
Well the Caps are dropping, and fast!

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It doesnt hurt that he is on a line with Morozov who broke the league record for points this year.
I wasn't aware that Morozov changed his name to either Kuryanov or Popov. I wonder how the sneaky bugger manages to play hockey in two places at the exact same time and drastically alter his appearance so frequently in the process. I am very impressed.

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No, Cherepanov doesn't even play for the same team as Morozov. Cherepanov plays for Avangard Omsk. Morozov plays for Ak-Bars Kazan.

Is the regular season over in Russia already?

Yes, and for Avangard, so is the first round of the playoffs.

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03-15-2007, 03:02 PM
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Slitty what is the deal with Morozov?. I read an article somewhere that he was possibly eyeing a return to the NHL if the price was right, Is that still the case?. Also, any links you have to a bio/career would be appreciated.

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How is his offensive tools compared to Vasyunov in last years draft?

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It doesnt hurt that he is on a line with Morozov who broke the league record for points this year.
wow just wow.

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18G + 11A - "+14" - 2 GWG - 2 PPG - 45 PIMs
thanks. How many games?

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Wow, that is some serious numbers he have put up. Is he on the first or second PP-line. I see he have 2 PPG, is he more of a sniper or does he build up games as well?


And how many game have he played in?

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03-15-2007, 06:29 PM
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apparently points are very hard to come by in the RSL.. when a fellow Ranger fan noticed that our draft pick Artem Anisimov scored his second goal all year (recently) it was a cause for excitement.. however i never got how 7 pts is actually a decent development for a player like that..

I am very glad that Cherepanov is doing well, i am excited to see what he can bring to the NA stage..

anyone willing to guess who may take him, and what the best next step would be for his development, i.e. NHL/AHL/stay in RSL, etc.


If a player scores allot of pts in a handful of games, and then does nothing, its of course not (alone) reason for excitement.

But its really hard to score in the leagues in Europe, skill alone don't gaurantee anything. You must understand the offensive game well, and you must be able to use your linemates well.

In the NHL teams settle with 1 on 1 plays defensivly. While in Europe the tempo is slower, its easier to collect defensivly, and teams try to get a 2 on 1 defensive situation. To have a D back, and a center that can cover for him. Its harder to do anything with pure skills. In the NHL its more 1 on 1, if you win your battle, you will get a scoring chance. In Europe its often not enough to win one battle, you have to beat another guy after it. It much more about figuring out in what situations its worth to challenge a D, to be able to evalute offensive situations, to make the right decison.

Often kids in Europe doesn't score at all, or gets like 10 pts, for a pretty long time, untill they really catch fire and becomes PPG players over a night. There are a ton of examples like that.

Without having seen any games, only looking at stats, its hard to say whats gooing on. Anisimov could just have been extremely lucky for 4-5 games. But, if a kid in Europe catches fire like Anisimov have, it can also defenitly be a sign that he have started to master the offensive game. And thats something most kids aren't able to do here before they are 21-22 y/o, so when a kid like Anisimov are able to do it, who still is 18 y/o, it can be really good.

In terms of skills Anisimov got potential to contribute in the RSL right away, no doubt, for him its about getting his understanding of the game up on par. I wouldn't have been suprised if that took 4 years, if he didn't start to produce untill he where 22. Thats pretty normal, 20-22.


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Yes, and for Avangard, so is the first round of the playoffs.
Slitty, did Avangard advance? How did Cherepanov do? I heard he left a recent game with a rib injury. Is he back in action yet?

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