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03-07-2007, 10:33 PM
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Best single game accomplishment.

Im sure this threads been done before or something similar but i couldnt find it lol. There's 3 single game records i personally think are nearly impossible to ever happen again.....Mosienko's hat trick in under 30 seconds, Sittlers 10 points, and Mario's power play, shorthanded, even strength, penaly shot and empty net goal in 1 game. Anyone here think any of these could be matched or broken?

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Patrik Sundstrom's 8 point night in the playoffs against Washington 1988 maybe

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Im sure this threads been done before or something similar but i couldnt find it lol. There's 3 single game records i personally think are nearly impossible to ever happen again.....Mosienko's hat trick in under 30 seconds, Sittlers 10 points, and Mario's power play, shorthanded, even strength, penaly shot and empty net goal in 1 game. Anyone here think any of these could be matched or broken?
Here is a somewhat similar thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=341290

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Here is a somewhat similar thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=341290
Doh, sorry i guess this thread should be deleted... my bad.

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Patrik Sundstrom's 8 point night in the playoffs against Washington 1988 maybe
That's not a solo record. Mario has also had an 8 point night in the playoffs (Philly, game 5, 1989)

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Doh, sorry i guess this thread should be deleted... my bad.
No need to be sorry.

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Im sure this threads been done before or something similar but i couldnt find it lol. There's 3 single game records i personally think are nearly impossible to ever happen again.....Mosienko's hat trick in under 30 seconds, Sittlers 10 points, and Mario's power play, shorthanded, even strength, penaly shot and empty net goal in 1 game. Anyone here think any of these could be matched or broken?
Mosienko and Sittler's records will likely never be broken given the fact that nobody has ever even been close. They are the result of everything going right on a particular evening.

I wish people would stop talking about this Mario thing as something special. It is no more special than any 5 goal game in NHL history. In fact, I would suggest that it is less significant than many because a lot of 5 goal games did not feature an empty netter. Gretzky's 5 goals against the Flyers to hit 50 in 39 is more significant in that it gave him 9 goals in 2 games!!!!!

Honestly, would Mario's 5 goal game have been worth less if it was 2 PPG, one even strength, one short handed and one penalty shot? It is just a goofy quirk, there is no signifigance to it. What if Mario had a wide open net at even strength in the 3rd period, should he have intentionally missed so he could get an empty netter later on? This is as significant as hitting for the cycle in baseball - meaning it is not significant at all.

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Mosienko and Sittler's records will likely never be broken given the fact that nobody has ever even been close. They are the result of everything going right on a particular evening.

I wish people would stop talking about this Mario thing as something special. It is no more special than any 5 goal game in NHL history. In fact, I would suggest that it is less significant than many because a lot of 5 goal games did not feature an empty netter. Gretzky's 5 goals against the Flyers to hit 50 in 39 is more significant in that it gave him 9 goals in 2 games!!!!!

Honestly, would Mario's 5 goal game have been worth less if it was 2 PPG, one even strength, one short handed and one penalty shot? It is just a goofy quirk, there is no signifigance to it. What if Mario had a wide open net at even strength in the 3rd period, should he have intentionally missed so he could get an empty netter later on? This is as significant as hitting for the cycle in baseball - meaning it is not significant at all.
I also think that Pittsburgh should have drafted Kirk Muller in 1984.

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Mosienko and Sittler's records will likely never be broken given the fact that nobody has ever even been close. They are the result of everything going right on a particular evening.

I wish people would stop talking about this Mario thing as something special. It is no more special than any 5 goal game in NHL history. In fact, I would suggest that it is less significant than many because a lot of 5 goal games did not feature an empty netter. Gretzky's 5 goals against the Flyers to hit 50 in 39 is more significant in that it gave him 9 goals in 2 games!!!!!

Honestly, would Mario's 5 goal game have been worth less if it was 2 PPG, one even strength, one short handed and one penalty shot? It is just a goofy quirk, there is no signifigance to it. What if Mario had a wide open net at even strength in the 3rd period, should he have intentionally missed so he could get an empty netter later on? This is as significant as hitting for the cycle in baseball - meaning it is not significant at all.
I so completely agree. That record is just goofy. Same with the alleged Gordie Howe Hattrick.

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What I witnessed, I'd say Gretzky in the 7th game of the 3rd round in 1993 vs Toronto. He pretty much won the game himself. And the game mattered, it sent the Kings to the final.

Then there was the famous night Richard scored 5 goals and they named him 1st,
2nd and 3rd star.

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The thing I don't like about these topics is that goaltender performances are almost always made abstraction of. Dominik Hasek had a handful of games in the late 90s that would match any performance by any forward ever.

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Lemieux's 5 goals 5 different ways.


Based on the rarity of the possibilities to get all 5...to get an ES, PP, and SH goal in one game are hard enough...but getting the Penalty Shot goal is a killer...and if one player has 4 goals by himself the odds of being in a position to get an empty netter are next to nil. We've seen 4 goals 4 ways only a couple times, 5 goals 5 ways...once, and I don't see it being duplicated any time soon.

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Mosienko and Sittler's records will likely never be broken given the fact that nobody has ever even been close. They are the result of everything going right on a particular evening.

I wish people would stop talking about this Mario thing as something special. It is no more special than any 5 goal game in NHL history. In fact, I would suggest that it is less significant than many because a lot of 5 goal games did not feature an empty netter. Gretzky's 5 goals against the Flyers to hit 50 in 39 is more significant in that it gave him 9 goals in 2 games!!!!!

Honestly, would Mario's 5 goal game have been worth less if it was 2 PPG, one even strength, one short handed and one penalty shot? It is just a goofy quirk, there is no signifigance to it. What if Mario had a wide open net at even strength in the 3rd period, should he have intentionally missed so he could get an empty netter later on? This is as significant as hitting for the cycle in baseball - meaning it is not significant at all.
You know Gretzky scored his 50th into an empty net. The reason Mario's is so special is because he scored them in different situations and nobody has done it just him. Thats like saying why is Mosienko's record so special there have been a lot of natural hat trick's in the NHL.

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You know Gretzky scored his 50th into an empty net. The reason Mario's is so special is because he scored them in different situations and nobody has done it just him. Thats like saying why is Mosienko's record so special there have been a lot of natural hat trick's in the NHL.
Bah, just leave him be. He gets mad whenever someone even mentions Mario.

Take a look at this topic:

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. The reason Mario's is so special is because he scored them in different situations and nobody has done it just him. Thats like saying why is Mosienko's record so special there have been a lot of natural hat trick's in the NHL.
Apples and oranges.

The reason Mario's oddity is no more special than any other 5 goal game is that nobody tries to duplicate it. Why doesn't anyone try? Because it is meaningless.

"OK coach. I got an even strength goal, I am only going to play on the PP or PK. I really don't want to screw this up, you know"

Mario's oddity is like having 6 toes on one foot or slipping on ice and not spilling a drop of coffee. It is interesting but really it is just an oddity.

"Coach, I don't care that it is a tie game, I am only going to play when they pull the goalie. I need an empty netter to 'score for the cycle'"

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Apples and oranges.

The reason Mario's oddity is no more special than any other 5 goal game is that nobody tries to duplicate it. Why doesn't anyone try? Because it is meaningless.

"OK coach. I got an even strength goal, I am only going to play on the PP or PK. I really don't want to screw this up, you know"

Mario's oddity is like having 6 toes on one foot or slipping on ice and not spilling a drop of coffee. It is interesting but really it is just an oddity.

"Coach, I don't care that it is a tie game, I am only going to play when they pull the goalie. I need an empty netter to 'score for the cycle'"
Ya I am sure that when Mario was creating this record all those conversations went on.

How do you know nobody tries to break this record? You dont know that.

Sure it is an oddity, it is so much an oddity that noone has ever done it since. That is what makes it great.

So if Player "A" scores 2 goals 30 seconds apart, "Well coach I might as well sit on the ice I'm not gonna break the record anyways."

or

"well coach I got a shorthanded goal and 2 even strength goals I dont want to play anymore because its just pointless"

Mario's record is outstanding, and should be praised because it is so rare.

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How about that Nords-Bruins game back in the early 90's when Ron Tugnutt stopped 70 of 73 shots in a 65 minute game!

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Rocket's 5 goals in a playoff game.

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Mario's "record" is like the player who misses the cycle because he legs out a double instead of stopping at first base. It's not recorded as a cycle and gets no historical place in a book, but it's just as effective, maybe even moreso, than the cycle.

I could argue that Sergei Fedorov scoring all 5 goals, including the OT winner, in a 5-4 win over Hartford was more meaningful than Mario's 5 goals, since one was just a gimme empty-netter.....

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Oh, as for the best "single game" record.....

- Ian Turnbull's 5 goals as a defensemen 2/7/77
- Randy Holt's most penalties in a period (9) and most penalty minutes in both a period and game (67) 3/11/79
- Gus Bodnar's goal 15 seconds into his first NHL game 10/30/43
- Joe Malone's 7 goals in a game 1/31/20

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Lemieux's 5 goals 5 different ways.


Based on the rarity of the possibilities to get all 5...to get an ES, PP, and SH goal in one game are hard enough...but getting the Penalty Shot goal is a killer...and if one player has 4 goals by himself the odds of being in a position to get an empty netter are next to nil. We've seen 4 goals 4 ways only a couple times, 5 goals 5 ways...once, and I don't see it being duplicated any time soon.
Bingo, the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the thread.

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excluding shootouts, i can't name a single player off the top of my head that's scored all 5 ways in the entire 2006-07 season, let alone in the course of one game.

perhaps it's just nowadays that the sport has become more specialized (with certain penalty kill experts or powerplay specialists), but i really can't name a guy who's done it....any help?

to be fair though, a 10 point game will probably never be duplicated again either.

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Eddie Shore and his five fighting majors in a game. It will never be trumped (partly because the NHL changed the rules to where you get thrown out after three).

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Eddie Shore and his five fighting majors in a game. It will never be trumped (partly because the NHL changed the rules to where you get thrown out after three).
Darcy Tucker fought the entire Sens bench once...

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