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03-14-2007, 07:54 PM
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The end for Perezhogin?

Do you guys think we will see Perezhogin in a Habs jersey ever again? I just can't see Carboneau making a place for him in the remaining weeks.

Maybe they will use him to move up in the draft??

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03-14-2007, 07:58 PM
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I thought he was still hurt?

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He's injured but nevertheless...

I honestly hope he continues his career as a Hab...he is not what is wrong with this team.

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03-14-2007, 08:00 PM
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I think Kostitsyn has taken Perez's spot. The one that will never wear Habs' jersey again IMO is Samsonov.

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03-14-2007, 08:04 PM
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Dumping Perezhogin would be a mistake. If I were GM I'd be patient with him. I agree that Kosty probably has taken his job but it's still too soon to move him IMO.

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I really like Perezhogin, some will say please trade him for a late first round pick or a high second round pick.. but I think he has nhl skills. Please give him 17 minutes with some power play time and you guys will love perezhogin. He's quick , strong, accurate shot( not on the shout-out tho ) but still , I believe in Perezhogin

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I dunno, I kinda like Perezhogin but if we have no place for him we should think about moving him while his value is still relatively high...I would rather Kostitsyn on the top two lines but then, Perezhogin never really got a fair chance on a scoring line consistently (and produced well when he did). I'm kinda torn. I'd see what happens with our defense in the off-season and, depending on who leaves, maybe move Perez in a package to get a solid blue-liner to take the place of Markov/Souray/Rivet.

But he is still injured and not a healthy scratch, so don't interpret his absence as Carbo having fully given up on him or anything like that.

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03-14-2007, 08:12 PM
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Do you guys think we will see Perezhogin in a Habs jersey ever again? I just can't see Carboneau making a place for him in the remaining weeks.

Maybe they will use him to move up in the draft??
I can see him traded at the draft. I would like to keep him for next year though....and go with a younger team. (Latendresse, Higgins, Plekanec, Lapierre Kostitsyn, Perezhogin and maybe Milroy, Chipchura and Grabovsky getting some decent roles)

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03-14-2007, 08:18 PM
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Without Samsonov, we have 13 forwards:

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Kovalev - Bonk - Johnson
Bégin - Lapierre - Perezhogin
Murray



IMO, Perezhogin still has is place with the big club...

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I could see him being the prospect that is part of a bigger deal... Unfortunately for him, his occasional offensive bursts don't outweigh his constant stupid penalties.

I would like to see him stick with the team, but he'll probably have to stop taking penalties, cuz I can't see him playing much doing that.

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03-14-2007, 08:19 PM
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I would move him for a younger player in a similar situation. Maybe a guy with more grit. Not Garth Murray however. A D-man would be nice.

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03-14-2007, 08:21 PM
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Without Samsonov, we have 13 forwards:

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Kovalev - Bonk - Johnson
Bégin - Lapierre - Perezhogin

Murray



IMO, Perezhogin still has is place with the big club...
Instead of having two right shots on the 3rd line and none on the 4th, I'd put Kovy down a line and bring back the PBJ line which was, IMHO, a major factor in our defensive success early on in the season. Why they are not together is beyond me. Also Kovalev looked great and happy with his time on the 4th, and he will be even more fresh for the PP

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Perezhogin - Bonk - Johnson
Bégin - Lapierre - Kovalev

Murray

That line up looks so perfect to me. Kovy can sub in at any time for a slumping player, or if he really wakes up a spot can always be made for him. An asset to the team.

I think Perezhogin most definitely has his place on the team, at least for the remaining 10 games and it is right alongside Bonk. As for next year, well time will only tell I suppose. I hope he sticks around though, I am a fan.

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03-14-2007, 08:25 PM
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would be a mistake to give up on perezhogin, he has shown how skilled he can be when his confidence is up.

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03-14-2007, 08:29 PM
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Perezhogin still has his place with this club. I just hope that the HABS uses 3 offensive lines just like the Sabres. Perezhogin will be able to finally develop into a great offensive forward, just like Afinogenov does with Buffalo (he's playing on the 3rd line with Vanek and Roy). Giving up on Perez at this point will be a huge mistake. He's the type of player that will explode if traded away, and it will be just in your face for Carbonneau...

My line when Perezhogin comes back:

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - PLekanec - Kostitsyn
Perezhogin - Lapierre - Kovalev
Bégin - Bonk - Johnson

Markov - Komisarek
Souray - Gorges
Streit - Dandenault

With this line-up, you have 3 scoring lines, with the 4th line as the pure defensive line playing about 10-12 minutes per game...

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03-14-2007, 08:30 PM
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I doubt he has much value.

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03-14-2007, 08:37 PM
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Last season , Perez had very good games with Kovalev and Saku . This season , he was very effective a good part of the season , on the third line .

I don't see the point of trading him because Kosty had ONE big game of 3 points . And by the way , Kosty is having the spot of Samsonov , not the one of Perez .

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03-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Perezhogin - Bonk - Johnson
Bégin - Lapierre - "*"Kovalev

Murray

Markov-Komisarek
Streit-Souray
Gorges/Bouillon-Dandenault

Niinimaa

"*"The line on what Kovalev plays don't really matter. In fact, we don't have a GREAT playmaker to match with him, two speedy and energic players can be better then a player like Plekanec to spark him and create a lot of space for him due to the good forecheck of Lapierre and Begin and don't forget that Kovalev can use well his body when he wants. Add to that he can be double-shifted and he get penty of powerplay times in a game. I saw Carbo let him there, gave him nearly 1:45 per PP and if the others team don't get a lot of PK just double shift him a couple times. I think in this way Lapierre and Begin can make Kovalev effective in a short time period. Its not the magical answer but in a short period like 10 games, it can work well and do some damage to the other team.

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03-14-2007, 08:46 PM
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Without Samsonov, we have 13 forwards:

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Kovalev - Bonk - Johnson
Bégin - Lapierre - Perezhogin
Murray



IMO, Perezhogin still has is place with the big club...
I can't imagine Kovy playing on the 3th ( or 4 th ) line for the rest of the season . I am sure that he will be back on the second .

But a line i think that i could see is

Perezhogin , Lapierre , Kostytsin .

I can be wrong , but i am sure that Perezhogin would play more his kind of game , with Kosty ; their background is probably more similar , and they would be very fast , the 3 together

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03-14-2007, 08:48 PM
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I can't imagine Kovy playing on the 3th ( or 4 th ) line for the rest of the season . I am sure that he will be back on the second .

But a line i think that i could see is

Perezhogin , Lapierre , Kostytsin .

I can be wrong , but i am sure that Perezhogin would play more his kind of game , with Kosty ; their background is probably more similar , and they would be very fast , the 3 together
Keep Kovy away from Pleks and Kost ! He is intimidating them !

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03-14-2007, 08:49 PM
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Hate to coin a familiar phrase but, "The Price Is Right"

He'll still be very low on the cap hit. Give it a little more time.

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Keep Kovy away from Pleks and Kost ! He is intimidating them !
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I put Kosty with Perezhogin and Lapierre .


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I don't want to give up on Prez just yet.
He was very good in the AHL. He was very good in the lockout year overseas.
So why he has not broken out yet?

Overall I think his confidence is fragile. He keeps getting those darn penilties and I am sure he hears about that over and over from the coaches. He just look like a guy thats scared to lose his job sometimes. He found a way to please the coach by going +20 this year but at what cost? the cost is his offensive game yet we know he has good moves and good hands.

He needs to play with a better center then BONK. A center that can create some space and some offence.

First I think this kid needs some reassurance from the coaching staff and not just lip service, a real good sit down.
He needs Pleks or Lapierre to bond with.
Then we will see what he is made of.

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Assuming we loose Samsonov,Bonk, Johnson, he has his place IMO.

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Perezhogin still has his place with this club. I just hope that the HABS uses 3 offensive lines just like the Sabres. Perezhogin will be able to finally develop into a great offensive forward, just like Afinogenov does with Buffalo (he's playing on the 3rd line with Vanek and Roy). Giving up on Perez at this point will be a huge mistake. He's the type of player that will explode if traded away, and it will be just in your face for Carbonneau...

My line when Perezhogin comes back:

Latendresse - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - PLekanec - Kostitsyn
Perezhogin - Lapierre - Kovalev
Bégin - Bonk - Johnson

Markov - Komisarek
Souray - Gorges
Streit - Dandenault

With this line-up, you have 3 scoring lines, with the 4th line as the pure defensive line playing about 10-12 minutes per game...

i like your lineup. it seems to me to be our best

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The thing is...

Bouillon will play, and Streit will play. So every lineup will have to be made according to these facts.

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