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02-02-2004, 06:58 AM
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GOALIES
Johan Hedberg, 31 (Vancouver)
Tommy Salo, 33 (Edmonton)
Mikael Tellqvist, 24 (Toronto)


DEFENSEMEN
Christian Bäckman, 24 (St. Louis)
Niclas Hävelid, 31 (Anaheim)
Kim Johnsson, 28 (Philadelphia)
Kenny Jönsson, 29 (NY Islanders)
Nicklas Lidström, 34 (Detroit)
Mattias Norström, 32 (Los Angeles)
Dick Tärnström, 29 (Pittsburgh)
Mattias Öhlund, 27 (Vancouver)


FORWARDS
Daniel Alfredsson, 31 (Ottawa)
Per-Johan Axelsson, 29 (Boston)
Peter Forsberg, 31 (Colorado)
Tomas Holmström, 31 (Detroit)
Andreas Johansson, 31 (Nashville)
Magnus Kahnberg, 24 (Frölunda)
Fredrik Modin, 29 (Tampa)
Marcus Nilson, 26 (Florida)
Michael Nylander, 31 (Washington)
Markus Näslund, 31 (Vancouver)
Mikael Renberg, 32 (Toronto)
Daniel Sedin, 23 (Vancouver)
Henrik Sedin, 23 (Vancouver)
Mats Sundin, 33 (Toronto)
Henrik Zetterberg, 23 (Detroit)

And there you go. Here's the (almost) optimal roster
In the 26-man roster there has to be three U-21 players.

 
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Or at least three U22

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How do you guys feel about this lineup? link: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport...,428841,00.html

Forwards:
Mats Sundin - Daniel Alfredsson - Fredrik Modin
Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Niklas Sundström
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Henrik Zetterberg
Per-Johan Axelsson - Jörgen Jönsson - Peter Nordström
Extra: Tomas Holmström

Defensemen:
Mattias Öhlund - Nicklas Lidström
Marcus Ragnarsson - Kim Johnsson
Mattias Norström - Dick Tärnström
Extra: Kenny Jönsson

Goalies:
Salo
Hedberg
Tellqvist

Under 22s:
Fredrik Sjöström
Alexander Steen
Johan Fransson

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How do you guys feel about this lineup? link: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport...,428841,00.html

Forwards:
Mats Sundin - Daniel Alfredsson - Fredrik Modin
Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Niklas Sundström
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Henrik Zetterberg
Per-Johan Axelsson - Jörgen Jönsson - Peter Nordström
Extra: Tomas Holmström

Defensemen:
Mattias Öhlund - Nicklas Lidström
Marcus Ragnarsson - Kim Johnsson
Mattias Norström - Dick Tärnström
Extra: Kenny Jönsson

Goalies:
Salo
Hedberg
Tellqvist

Under 22s:
Fredrik Sjöström
Alexander Steen
Johan Fransson
With all the respect for Jörgen Jönsson and Peter Nordström but this is a tournamnet for NHL players with NHL rules. Nice to see him pick the Sedins in a third line though.

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With all the respect for Jörgen Jönsson and Peter Nordström but this is a tournamnet for NHL players with NHL rules. Nice to see him pick the Sedins in a third line though.
Well, Jörgen Jönsson did OK when he played in the NHL.

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Many people believe that Fredrik Sjöström will make the team, I don´t. Not because that he is bad player but because he left Sweden as a teenager. He can´t seriously think that he will be granted a spot in the World Cup without having played a single game for Tre Kronor and his recent efforts in the NHL doesn´t really suggest that he is strong candidate either. He abandonded the swedish system, no way that he will slip into the National Team on a banana skin.

Yared Hagos is a lock on the team as a U22-player and I am convinced that Hardy rather selects players like Enström, Fransson, Steen or Karlsson over Sjöström.

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Well, Jörgen Jönsson did OK when he played in the NHL.
Yes he did, but don't forget that is some seasons ago. If I don't remember wrong he wasn't that good in the beginning of the season, he started to play relly well around christmas. The translation to the smaller rink is bigger than many thinks. What I understand all games, even them played in Europe, will be on small rinks?

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Many people believe that Fredrik Sjöström will make the team, I don´t. Not because that he is bad player but because he left Sweden as a teenager. He can´t seriously think that he will be granted a spot in the World Cup without having played a single game for Tre Kronor and his recent efforts in the NHL doesn´t really suggest that he is strong candidate either. He abandonded the swedish system, no way that he will slip into the National Team on a banana skin.

Yared Hagos is a lock on the team as a U22-player and I am convinced that Hardy rather selects players like Enström, Fransson, Steen or Karlsson over Sjöström.
Hardy Nilsson has his own ideas, but maybe Ulf Dahlen can convince him to pick Fredrik Sjöström. I hope so, we need players who can compete at NHL level, and he is more talented than Karlsson and Hagos. I put my vote on Sjöström, Steen and one defenseman, probably Enström or Fransson.

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Yes he did, but don't forget that is some seasons ago. If I don't remember wrong he wasn't that good in the beginning of the season, he started to play relly well around christmas. The translation to the smaller rink is bigger than many thinks. What I understand all games, even them played in Europe, will be on small rinks?
That would mean rebuilding all of the european rinks.. Or does it? Anyway, I would really hate to see Jönsson instead of Andreas Johansson or Samuel Påhlsson, or to see Peter Nordström instead of Mikael Renberg, Marcus Nilson or Niklas Sundström.

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That would mean rebuilding all of the european rinks.. Or does it? Anyway, I would really hate to see Jönsson instead of Andreas Johansson or Samuel Påhlsson, or to see Peter Nordström instead of Mikael Renberg, Marcus Nilson or Niklas Sundström.
Totally agree. Or Jönsson över the twins. Please don't make it so. :mad:

I thought every game would be on small rinks. What would Canada say if the finished fourth in the American Pool and have to come to Sweden and play on big ice surface?

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They didn´t play on small rinks in Europe at the 1996 World Cup, not in Sweden anyway.

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I may be wrong. You're probably right. Hockey on european rinks should be played on big surface, but it doesn't make the tournament fair to all contries. Strange rule.

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Sweden is suffering from quite a goaltender problem as of now. However, it would seem that Salo is the only reliable option as a starter..Tellqvist has only seen AHL action and Hedberg has seen little action period. I really don't think you can bring in Liv, seeing as how he has no experience with the smaller surface and angles, etc.
Salo is the only goalie with a fair bout of experience facing the world's best. Tellqvist may be there in time, but you can't put out an AHL starter against some of the NHL's best..it might work at the World Championships, but not once Tre Kronor get to North America.

That aside, the Swedes need some goaltending to come on, or that may very well be their undoing

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I'm personally not worried at all about the goaltending.
There have probably never been as many good goalies to chose from. Sure, compared to the other countries we haven't got the same depth.. but compared to our own 'goalie-history' things are looking really good.

btw, I have more faith in Tellqvist than Salo

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Tellqvist has been up and down after playing three games with Toronto. Reports tell of some goals given up easily, but Toronto has won all the games. Hope they won't judge him after so few games. Tellqvist could very well be the starter for Sweden.

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Tellqvist has been up and down after playing three games with Toronto. Reports tell of some goals given up easily, but Toronto has won all the games. Hope they won't judge him after so few games. Tellqvist could very well be the starter for Sweden.
Telly has been very good for the Leafs .. he lost his first game 2-1 the other night to Carolina but made some great saves ...His record has been 5 wins and 2 ties in his previous 7 games ... When Belfour returns there is now talk that tellan will be the backup and Trevor waived to St. Johns as Telly has out played him by a FAR margin..

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Yeah, it would be great with Tellan as backup this season, so he can learn from Belfour. The next season maybe let them share the job, a don't give Tellqvist all the responsibility, and then I think Tellqvist could be ready to be a full NHL starter.
Just look a Kirpusoff, he has worked hard, and finally he got his chance and now he is playing terrific.

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Magnus Nyström, writer on DN, today presented his roster for the WC:

Goalies: 1 Mikael Tellqvist, 2 Tommy Salo, 3 Henrik Lundqvist
Defensenpairings: Nicklas Lidström - Mattias Norström, Kim Johnsson - Marcus Ragnarsson, Mattias Öhlund - Kenny Jönsson, 7th: Dick Tärnström
Offense: Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Nils Ekman,
Daniel Alfredsson - Mats Sundin - Per-Johan Axelsson,
Fredrik Modin - Henrik Zetterberg - Thomas Holmström,
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Andreas Johansson.

He also told us this could be the tournaments best third line... ehh.. where does he get that from? I think it looks a little defensive minded, a maybe with to little finesse. I'd rather see Nylander along with Zetterberg and Axelsson there. Put Modin with Sundin (Modin and Sundin have great chemistry) and Alfredsson.

Most important is to have a good fourth line, often it is a line with they players who is left over but is too good to be left home. This is not the case this time with the Sedins, who know eachother and is used to limited icetime. But I even consider having them on a third line, they have played really well this season. But if you need a change in the team you could put Alfredsson with the twins, good be a great line. Or think of Nylander centering Sundin and Forsberg.

Ahh. Can't wait for this tournament.

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Many people believe that Fredrik Sjöström will make the team, I don´t. Not because that he is bad player but because he left Sweden as a teenager. He can´t seriously think that he will be granted a spot in the World Cup without having played a single game for Tre Kronor and his recent efforts in the NHL doesn´t really suggest that he is strong candidate either. He abandonded the swedish system, no way that he will slip into the National Team on a banana skin.

Yared Hagos is a lock on the team as a U22-player and I am convinced that Hardy rather selects players like Enström, Fransson, Steen or Karlsson over Sjöström.
Big surprise, what i heard, Loui Eriksson is potential star in NHL, maybe an underdog for the World Cup, Dallas is really high on him.....

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This is my team:

Offence:
Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Nils Ekman
PJ Axelsson - Mats Sundin - Fredrik Modin
Thomas Holmström - Henrik Zetterberg - Daniel Alfredsson
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Andreas Johansson

Defense:
Nicklas Lidström, Mattias Norström
Mattias Öhlund, Dick Tärnstrom
Marcus Ragnarsson, Johnsson

Kenny Jönsson

Goal:
Tellqvist
Lundqvist
Salo

The first line would have Näslund/Forsberg, and Nils Ekman
driving towards goal. Forsberg setting up Naslunds and Nils'
absolutely lethal wristers is just crazy. I'd say that they
are somewhat weak defensively, but that their offense makes
up for it.

Second line would have speedy PJ Axelsson and Sundin, who
have shown great chemistry before. Former leaf Modin will have
to drive to the net and be very aggressive on the shot.

Third pairing is a decent allround line. Alfredsson and
Zetterberg will be able to cycle the puck down low, and set
eachother up. Holmström drives to the net, and will have
chemistry with fellow red wing Zetterberg.

I left Nylander out, but he might come in and replace Holmström
if he has a good playoff with whatever his new team will be.
Holmströms performance on the pp will be big enough to overcome
his 5on5 skills. I don't see Jörgen Jönsson or any other SEL
player earning a spot on this squad, and will be very sad if
Nils Ekman is left out. He has a spectacular shot, and has the
will to drive to the net, something this team is lacking.

Fourth line includes the Sedins with an in my opinion underrated
sniper, Johansson. As the previous poster wrote, they can make
great things happen with little icetime.

Defense pairings... I've chosen Tärnström over Kenny, because
I think he has more upside on this team, especially on a second
pp unit.

All in all, a very good team. Depending on the NHL playoffs it
could change, but if the world cup was held today, this is what
I'd ice.

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The lines for the world cup is becoming more clear as the season goes on. Goalies will be Salo and Tellqvist as the top two. Third man could be Henrik Lundqvist, to get experience, or Johan Hedberg, who is a reliable backup in Vancouver.

I won't change my defensepairings cause the are one of the best in the tournament, with offensive skills and pysichal play.

Nicklas Lidström - Mattias Norström
Kim Johnsson - Marcus Ragnarsson
Mattias Öhlund - Kenny Jönsson

Dick Tärnström is the 7th man, and if injuries occur Daniel Tjärnqvist could step in. I'll also add Johan Fransson, who seems to have great portential, he could learn a lot from this guys.

The lines seems quite clear as well.

Daniel Alfredsson - Mats Sundin - Fredrik Modin
A very heavy offensive line, all players with 20+ season in goals. All of them is responsible all over the ice and could with pysichal play hold the puck for a long while in the offensive zone.

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Andreas Johansson
The twins have been great this season and with great passer and scorer Andreas Johansson on the wing this line could produce a lot. Could be the big surprise.

Henrik Zetterberg - Michael Nylander - Per-Johan Axelsson
Not a very pysichal line, but much skills. Nylander and Zetterberg could turn any defense around, and Axelsson will help with his skating. Both Zetterberg and Axelsson are reliable defensively why this could be our shutdown line.

Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Nils Ekman
Interesting line with childhoodfriends Forsberg and Näslund with Ekman, who can play though with offensive skills. In this company Ekman could turn out to something really good.

Niklas Sundström will be 13th forward, and could play at all forward positions if injuries occur. This means powerplay specialist Thomas Holmström is left out, he is a key player on the PP, and could maybe replace Ekman. PJ Axelsson is a lock as defensive forward, but Andreas Johansson could also have a battle with Holmström for the last spot, but I think he would be a perfect fit with the Sedins.

Alexander Steen and Fredrik Sjöström will be the other two U22's.

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I can't really understand why everybody wants Ekman along with Näslund and Forsberg. I would rather see someone like Holmqvist on their line. We all know how well Näslund plays with Big Bert (not that I compare him with Holmqvist but their both big and strong). I think Foppa and Näslund could use some strenght on thier line...

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Seiza,
What have you been smoking?
Michael Holmqvist's chance of making the team is pretty much 0%.
Perhaps you are thinking about another player?
Modin, Sundin?

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Michael Holmqvist? I'd rather choose Fredrik Sjöström in that case.

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