HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Notices

Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

Concern about Tavares

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-19-2007, 07:22 AM
  #1
Big Phil
Registered User
 
Big Phil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,139
vCash: 500
Concern about Tavares

I know he's only 16 and its no big deal right now but a little shocking to me that a 72 goal scorer - who scored tem more than the next closest - isnt anywhere to be seen on certain league leading lists in the OHL. On the game winning goals, insurance goal and first goals he isnt even on the top 20 on either list in the OHL. On PP goals he's first with 34. He also had 6 shorties. But you'd think he'd have racked up more game winners or bigger clutch goals.

Does this concern anyone else? That just jumped right out at me. Is Tavares the type of guy that rackes up a bunch of points. Crosby scores a lot, and at the right time. Tavares doesnt seem to.

Big Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 07:23 AM
  #2
Bird Law
Daisy's back.
 
Bird Law's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Country Roads
Country: United States
Posts: 72,117
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Bird Law
He's 16.

__________________
"Of course giving Sather cap space is like giving teenagers whiskey and car keys." - SBOB
"Watching Sather build a team is like watching a blind man with no fingers trying to put together an elaborate puzzle." - Shadowtron
"Used to be only Twinkies and cockroaches could survive a nuke. I'd add Habs to that. I'm convinced the CH stands for Club du Hypocrisy." - Gee Wally
Bird Law is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 07:24 AM
  #3
Kaizer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Moscow , Russia
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 4,321
vCash: 500
Yep, I see "Daigle" written all over him.

Kaizer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 07:30 AM
  #4
Maxpac
Registered User
 
Maxpac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: hockey city
Posts: 13,434
vCash: 500
This must be a joke, the man is 16!!!

Considering his draft egebility year, he should be a rookie next year like Crosby did.

Maxpac is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 07:31 AM
  #5
GKJ
Global Moderator
Entertainment
 
GKJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Do not trade plz
Country: United States
Posts: 109,435
vCash: 5700
No. That is absurd.

GKJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 07:45 AM
  #6
PuckheadMcGillycuddy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 671
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Phil View Post
I know he's only 16 and its no big deal right now but a little shocking to me that a 72 goal scorer - who scored tem more than the next closest - isnt anywhere to be seen on certain league leading lists in the OHL. On the game winning goals, insurance goal and first goals he isnt even on the top 20 on either list in the OHL. On PP goals he's first with 34. He also had 6 shorties. But you'd think he'd have racked up more game winners or bigger clutch goals.

Does this concern anyone else? That just jumped right out at me. Is Tavares the type of guy that rackes up a bunch of points. Crosby scores a lot, and at the right time. Tavares doesnt seem to.
Even with his 40 goals on special teams, he had 30 even-strength goals, which is more than all but 41 players had for their total goal output for the season. Adam Perry, on the other hand, was second in PP goals with 30, and he had only 15 at even strength, making him a pure power-play specialist. Patrick Kane had 22 goals on the power play and four shorties, meaning an impressive 36 of his goals were scored at even strength. Neither Tavares nor Kane are guys who pad their stats just by scoring with a man advantage.

PuckheadMcGillycuddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 08:01 AM
  #7
Zim
Registered User
 
Zim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,230
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guillaume the great! View Post
This must be a joke, the man is 16!!!

Considering his draft egebility year, he should be a rookie next year like Crosby did.
He's not even a man he's still just a kid.

Zim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 08:39 AM
  #8
hawksfan50
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,828
vCash: 500
He's 16 but already looks like a 25 yr old ,,,he's stuck in the OHL for 2 more years--but the time he is finished his draft year in the spring of 2009 he willbe an unstoppable MAN playing with liitle boys--by then he'll break every record for scoring points in a season ever done in Jr. hockey--and this poster is qubbling about him as a 16 yr old as not scoring GWG goals=who cares?--when he'll score hat-tricks galore by the time he's finished with Jrs. =his very awesomeness in burying teams with an offensive onslaught will psychologically defeat teams even before they drop the puck...Iwould not quibble with a guy destined for that kind of greatness...

hawksfan50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 08:51 AM
  #9
Wondercarrot
Classless
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,171
vCash: 500
maybe he doesnt have many game winning goals because his team blows.

Wondercarrot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 09:47 AM
  #10
Chainshot
Global Moderator
Give 'em Enough Rope
 
Chainshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Costa Rica
Country: Costa Rica
Posts: 56,237
vCash: 500
Awards:
And so it begins.... the pidgeon-hole arguements to run down a talented boy who isn't yet mature in any way but has shown to be an immensely talented hockey player.

__________________
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
Chainshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:05 AM
  #11
Jason MacIsaac
MARS Officer
 
Jason MacIsaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,457
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Jason MacIsaac Send a message via Yahoo to Jason MacIsaac
Tavaras should go to europe for two years IMO.

Jason MacIsaac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:12 AM
  #12
The Viking Fury
Registered User
 
The Viking Fury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,644
vCash: 500
I want the caps to take a flier on him in the 4th round. Can't have a reach in the first 3

The Viking Fury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:17 AM
  #13
40oz
..........
 
40oz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,776
vCash: 500
he may not score the big goals right now but at least you know he loves the game and gives it all hes got, unlike daigle. Remember the emotion this kid showed after being cut from the wjc team. compared to daigles "no one remembers number 2" bad comparison at this point i think.

40oz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:39 AM
  #14
CharlieGirl
Registered User
 
CharlieGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kitchener, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 29,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondercarrot View Post
maybe he doesnt have many game winning goals because his team blows.
Bingo. Oshawa has a few good young players, and they'll be better in the next year or two, but a powerhouse they ain't.

CharlieGirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:50 AM
  #15
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
 
Ziggy Stardust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 30,891
vCash: 500
There are more things to be concerned about, such as the thread posters sensibility.

Ziggy Stardust is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 11:58 AM
  #16
slade
Registered User
 
slade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: 18 Winspear Ltd.
Country: United States
Posts: 2,515
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by damoose View Post
he may not score the big goals right now but at least you know he loves the game and gives it all hes got, unlike daigle. Remember the emotion this kid showed after being cut from the wjc team. compared to daigles "no one remembers number 2" bad comparison at this point i think.
daigle LOL.

once quoted on a radio station as saying "i never really enjoyed hockey that much, i only played because of my talent."

yea ok brother. softer then a muffin out the oven.

slade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 12:29 PM
  #17
johnny canuckistan
Registered User
 
johnny canuckistan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,139
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie_Girl View Post
Bingo. Oshawa has a few good young players, and they'll be better in the next year or two, but a powerhouse they ain't.
Look for the 'shwa to add some rental players for next season as they are in the running to host the Memorial Cup.

johnny canuckistan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 01:04 PM
  #18
sbtatter
Registered User
 
sbtatter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,153
vCash: 500
I'd like to see Tavares play next year in the dub to see how well he does in a tighter checking league. I know this is impossible, but I bet he'd win the scoring race by a mile!!

sbtatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 01:11 PM
  #19
nanzenkills
Registered User
 
nanzenkills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario, California
Country: United States
Posts: 1,914
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
There are more things to be concerned about, such as the thread posters sensibility.
That sounds about right.

nanzenkills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 01:16 PM
  #20
Rare Jewel
Patience
 
Rare Jewel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Leaf Land
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,546
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaizer View Post
Yep, I see "Daigle" written all over him.
i know hes young but i wouldnt suprized

Rare Jewel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 01:38 PM
  #21
HopefulCoach
Registered User
 
HopefulCoach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,022
vCash: 500
his team right now isnt the greatest. Its hard to have more GWG then say Kane, when your team is below .500 and Kanes is above...

HopefulCoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 03:00 PM
  #22
Golden Jet
Registered User
 
Golden Jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 127
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason MacIsaac View Post
Tavaras should go to europe for two years IMO.
May I ask why?

Golden Jet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 03:06 PM
  #23
whatthef
Failure is an Option
 
whatthef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Upper Darby
Country: United States
Posts: 4,612
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Phil View Post
I know he's only 16 and its no big deal right now but a little shocking to me that a 72 goal scorer - who scored tem more than the next closest - isnt anywhere to be seen on certain league leading lists in the OHL. On the game winning goals, insurance goal and first goals he isnt even on the top 20 on either list in the OHL. On PP goals he's first with 34. He also had 6 shorties. But you'd think he'd have racked up more game winners or bigger clutch goals.

Does this concern anyone else? That just jumped right out at me. Is Tavares the type of guy that rackes up a bunch of points. Crosby scores a lot, and at the right time. Tavares doesnt seem to.
no

whatthef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 03:08 PM
  #24
Hawkster58
Registered User
 
Hawkster58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Niagara Falls, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 174
vCash: 500
This thread is absurd...relax...

The kid is a machine...

Some lucky team will get him...

Hawkster58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-19-2007, 03:12 PM
  #25
Mr BLUEandWHITE
Registered User
 
Mr BLUEandWHITE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,241
vCash: 500
the kid is 16 and scored 72 goals more then Gretzky. The only thing I would worry about is the team that gets him in the NHL draft. Pray that it isn't a divisional rival.

EDIT: If he came to Toronto, and Crosby went to Montreal that would awesome. The TOR-MON rivalry would be pushed to new heights. would be really fun to watch.

Mr BLUEandWHITE is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.