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03-21-2007, 03:10 AM
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Scott Gomez

Is he the guy we will most covet? I believe so. I believe Gomez would be the type of guy willing to sign here. I could be mistaken about this but I believe I've heard the Oilers were his favourite team growing up, being from Anchorage I don't think the cold weather would scare him off, on our side of it he plays a Mac T sort of game as he can play both ways very effectivly, he is a true playmaker in the middle which is something we don't have at this moment(Pouliot is getting there), and could be the type of player that would be worthy of something along the lines of 5 yr/30 mil contract. If we could land him, it would set our lines a lot better next year then this year, as we would have Lupul with that setup man he so desperatly needs.


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I'd prefer we covet a defenseman personally.

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I have no doubt we'll get a d-man, but we need offensive help as well now. I'm not asking if we need a d-man, we all know that, I'm saying this is the guy they could covet the most when it comes to UFA's. I still believe that we'll get a great d-man through a trade, and maybe add one more mid level UFA(like a Sarich, depending on who we deal).


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Would you sign him instead of Smyth?

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Would you sign him instead of Smyth?
Personally I'm starting to think I would just because I'm worried Smyth could command the same salary. I believe that Gomez is simply a better player. Smyth brings more intangibles(probably a better leader, we all know he's grittier), but Gomez is a slick offensive player(Doug Weight anyone?), really good defensive player, and 4 years younger which will make a huge difference in a long term deal.

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Of all guys you choose Scott Gomez?

I don't know, seems like a very uninspired character. I have heard from so many levels of questioning of character in big moments. He is a good point getter, do not get me wrong. But as a #1 centre he isn't exactly giving you that big factor up the middle either.

I also don't like how much I think Gomez is going to want as a free agent.

That said, I think there are tons of terrific options. Lowe can, if he wants to, change this team overnight into a contender.

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I don't think this team needs offensive help as much as many think they do. Too many guys on this team had bad years this year, and when they all happen together, it's impossible to have a good year collectively. A d-man is clearly the priority, but if that fails, and it might, trades will have to happen involving forwards, opening the door to sign guys like Gomez.

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I don't think this team needs offensive help as much as many think they do. Too many guys on this team had bad years this year, and when they all happen together, it's impossible to have a good year collectively. A d-man is clearly the priority, but if that fails, and it might, trades will have to happen involving forwards, opening the door to sign guys like Gomez.
Agreed, we need offense from the defense. Two offensively-capable d-men (40-50 point guys) would add 20 points to each top-six forward's point totals. That has to be our only goal for the off-season.

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Agreed, we need offense from the defense. Two offensively-capable d-men (40-50 point guys) would add 20 points to each top-six forward's point totals. That has to be our only goal for the off-season.
According to the brass Grebeshkov will be one of them. Heaven help us.

I'm not big on Gomez. Mostly because Thornton and Marleau are UFAs next summer and I suspect the Oilers could bring in a better player like Jokinen in a trade.

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03-21-2007, 06:08 AM
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I absolutely love Scott Gomez. He's worth every dollar a team gives him.

He makes Sean Horcoff look like Brian Skrudland.

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Would you sign him instead of Smyth?
If I had to sign one of them to a 5 year deal it would be Gomez.

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Hands down I would take Gomez over Smytty... and Smytty is my fave player. Thats like asking would I rather have Cory Cross or Jaro Spacek. Kari Takko over Bill Ranford. Steve Kelly over Shane Doan. Gomez... (if he isn't already) is close to being an ELITE talent. Smytty is a GOOD grinding power foward who is dynamic within 2 feet of the net. Put Gomez with Lupes... LIGHTS OUT. And is there ANY evidence about his character being poor... i have NEVER heard anything

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Would you sign him instead of Smyth?
All day every day. You are not even talking apples to apples here.
Ryan Smyth
YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG GTG ATOI PROD
1999-2000 EDM 82 28 26 54 -2 58 238 11.8 11 4 0 1 4 1 -- --
2000-2001 EDM 82 31 39 70 10 58 245 12.7 11 14 0 2 6 1 -- --
2001-2002 EDM 61 15 35 50 7 48 150 10.0 7 9 1 0 5 1 -- --
2002-2003 EDM 66 27 34 61 5 67 199 13.6 10 8 0 0 3 1 19:21 20:56
2003-2004 EDM 82 23 36 59 11 70 245 9.4 8 10 2 1 6 0 19:39 27:18
2005-2006 EDM 75 36 30 66 -5 58 230 15.7 19 12 2 2 3 0 20:13 22:57
2006-2007 EDM 53 31 22 53 2 38 161 19.3 14 4 1 0 5 0 20:09 20:09
… NYI 9 4 7 11 3 8 25 16.0 1 2 0 1 0 0 21:32 17:37
Career -- 779 269 291 560 -11 615 2191 12.3 118 80 6 7 40 8 -- --



Scott Gomez
YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG GTG ATOI PROD
1999-2000 NJD 82 19 51 70 14 78 204 9.3 7 20 0 0 1 2 -- --
2000-2001 NJD 76 14 49 63 -1 46 155 9.0 2 15 0 0 4 0 -- --
2001-2002 NJD 76 10 38 48 -4 36 156 6.4 1 13 0 0 1 0 -- --
2002-2003 NJD 80 13 42 55 17 48 205 6.3 2 10 0 0 4 1 16:01 23:17
2003-2004 NJD 80 14 56 70 18 70 189 7.4 3 13 0 0 1 0 16:00 18:16
2005-2006 NJD 82 33 51 84 8 42 244 13.5 9 24 0 0 5 0 18:47 18:20
2006-2007 NJD 65 11 45 56 7 36 225 4.9 4 18 0 0 1 0 18:55 21:57
Career -- 541 114 332 446 59 356 1378 8.3 28 113 0 0 17 3 -- --

Gomez is younger as well.

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All day every day. You are not even talking apples to apples here.
Ryan Smyth
YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG GTG ATOI PROD
1999-2000 EDM 82 28 26 54 -2 58 238 11.8 11 4 0 1 4 1 -- --
2000-2001 EDM 82 31 39 70 10 58 245 12.7 11 14 0 2 6 1 -- --
2001-2002 EDM 61 15 35 50 7 48 150 10.0 7 9 1 0 5 1 -- --
2002-2003 EDM 66 27 34 61 5 67 199 13.6 10 8 0 0 3 1 19:21 20:56
2003-2004 EDM 82 23 36 59 11 70 245 9.4 8 10 2 1 6 0 19:39 27:18
2005-2006 EDM 75 36 30 66 -5 58 230 15.7 19 12 2 2 3 0 20:13 22:57
2006-2007 EDM 53 31 22 53 2 38 161 19.3 14 4 1 0 5 0 20:09 20:09
NYI 9 4 7 11 3 8 25 16.0 1 2 0 1 0 0 21:32 17:37
Career -- 779 269 291 560 -11 615 2191 12.3 118 80 6 7 40 8 -- --



Scott Gomez
YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG GTG ATOI PROD
1999-2000 NJD 82 19 51 70 14 78 204 9.3 7 20 0 0 1 2 -- --
2000-2001 NJD 76 14 49 63 -1 46 155 9.0 2 15 0 0 4 0 -- --
2001-2002 NJD 76 10 38 48 -4 36 156 6.4 1 13 0 0 1 0 -- --
2002-2003 NJD 80 13 42 55 17 48 205 6.3 2 10 0 0 4 1 16:01 23:17
2003-2004 NJD 80 14 56 70 18 70 189 7.4 3 13 0 0 1 0 16:00 18:16
2005-2006 NJD 82 33 51 84 8 42 244 13.5 9 24 0 0 5 0 18:47 18:20
2006-2007 NJD 65 11 45 56 7 36 225 4.9 4 18 0 0 1 0 18:55 21:57
Career -- 541 114 332 446 59 356 1378 8.3 28 113 0 0 17 3 -- --

Gomez is younger as well.
Not bad numbers when considering how young he is and on which team he plays for.

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His goal scoring totals scare me a little bit though. Aside from last year's monster year, he seems to average about 14-15 goals a season if that.

For a guy who probably will want $5-$6 million ... I'd honestly probably rather take Richards, who shoots a little more and is more likely to hit 100 points.

The ideal guy I'd want is Jokinen though.

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Would you sign him instead of Smyth?
everyday of the week and twice on sundays

hes been *very* close to a PPG player for pretty much his entire career.... hes a playmaker at the center position, which we dont really have right now.... hes very sound defensively by all reports.... hes 3 years younger than smyth is (at 27 hes really just entering the 3-4 most productive years of most players careers)

yeah, id *much* rather have him than smyth for the same dollars.... but there is the problem, i dont think for a second that gomez wont get significantly more than smyth will.... thus the entire problem with UFAs, they simple cost entirely too much money

dont be holding your breath for UFA signings people, cause they arent gonna be happening this summer for us (not that i think many people on here are so foolish as to think this)

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everyday of the week and twice on sundays

hes been *very* close to a PPG player for pretty much his entire career.... hes a playmaker at the center position, which we dont really have right now.... hes very sound defensively by all reports.... hes 3 years younger than smyth is (at 27 hes really just entering the 3-4 most productive years of most players careers)

yeah, id *much* rather have him than smyth for the same dollars.... but there is the problem, i dont think for a second that gomez wont get significantly more than smyth will.... thus the entire problem with UFAs, they simple cost entirely too much money

dont be holding your breath for UFA signings people, cause they arent gonna be happening this summer for us (not that i think many people on here are so foolish as to think this)
chalk me up as one of the FOOLISH.. The oilers will get the same opprtunity to sign a UFA as most of the other teams. All u gotta do is make a good enough offer.

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I would rather see Briere over Gomez. I could see Kariya being a good fit here as well.

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dream on boys and girls...noone is coming to edmonton...
why the hell would they??

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Didn't you hear?? Edmonton is the new LA... plus we have donairs who wouldn't love it.

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No.

#1) He wants a paycheck and a big one and that's his big motivation. What happens once he has it?
#2) He couldn't check his hat.
#3) Who's going to finish for him?

If we're spending elite money, shouldn't it be on an elite player who can contribute at both ends of the rink? I find it amusing that people will criticize a defensive player being paid for being one-dimensional, but those same people will line up in droves to pay an offensive player for being one-dimensional.

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No.

#1) He wants a paycheck and a big one and that's his big motivation. What happens once he has it?
#2) He couldn't check his hat.
#3) Who's going to finish for him?

If we're spending elite money, shouldn't it be on an elite player who can contribute at both ends of the rink? I find it amusing that people will criticize a defensive player being paid for being one-dimensional, but those same people will line up in droves to pay an offensive player for being one-dimensional.
Scott Gomez isn't good defensivly? I'm not really certain the Devils are aware of that! When I watch there games I hear Chico Resche talk about Gomez and his "underrated" defensive game maybe once every two broadcasts(and it's not like I'm a huge Devils fan, so I'm not watching very many of there games!). Gomez is good defensivly and really good offensivly. I don't think the paycheck is his big motivation, and Lupul would finish for him(you know, that guy that is capable of 40 goal seasons but has yet to play with a guy that can set him up). Keep in mind, I didn't say Gomez was the guy that I PERSONALLY would want(I wouldn't complain either)I'm stating in this thread that I believe Lowe will covet him and be very much in the running to get him.

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Alot people still ride Hemsky for not scoring. If Lowe gave Gomez $5M+ for 5 years at the rate he scores, people would lose their ****ing minds.

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Alot people still ride Hemsky for not scoring. If Lowe gave Gomez $5M+ for 5 years at the rate he scores, people would lose their ****ing minds.
True, but at the end of the day 99% of the fans LOVE Hemsky and know what he brings to this team. Seemingly everyone Hemsky plays with scores, well if we had another guy like that, then we would have 2 lines that could score.

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Scott Gomez isn't good defensivly? I'm not really certain the Devils are aware of that! When I watch there games I hear Chico Resche talk about Gomez and his "underrated" defensive game maybe once every two broadcasts(and it's not like I'm a huge Devils fan, so I'm not watching very many of there games!). Gomez is good defensivly and really good offensivly. I don't think the paycheck is his big motivation, and Lupul would finish for him(you know, that guy that is capable of 40 goal seasons but has yet to play with a guy that can set him up). Keep in mind, I didn't say Gomez was the guy that I PERSONALLY would want(I wouldn't complain either)I'm stating in this thread that I believe Lowe will covet him and be very much in the running to get him.
The reason they say on the broadcast that he's underrated defensively, is cuz he's ranked so badly for his defensive play. They should say, "he's not as bad as his reputation would have you believe"

Gomez for 5 Mil per season is ridiculous. I'd MUCH prefer Smytty at 5.5.

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