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03-25-2007, 04:27 PM
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Nashville Inspiration - Lowe abject failure

Just another corroborative detial, as to why Lowe should be fired tomorrow morning.

How is it that Nashville, that outpost that has inspired managerial leadership, although no real fan support on any basis that approaches what is enjoyed in Edmonton, can actually draft the likes of Suter and Weber, while the Oilers have most first round never actually get to the NHL?
We could go on and muse about why Nashville found Zidlicky and Timmonen , clearly either one better than the defensive bargage in the Oilers line-up all season and in their vaunted "system"?

We could have made the same point with San Jose, and in a different way with Dallas and Minnesota.



Again, accountability. This will be a miserable spring watching these wretched US cities enjoying playoff hockey, places which neither have passion or knowledge.


CAn't we get accountability for this disater.

Last night's game was so pathetic to watch it was beyond words.

Couldn't Lowe have add one real player other than Nedved over the course of the season to actually make the Oilers better? It was all subtraction and ineptifude.

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can you keep all your posts to one thread

maybe

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can you keep all your posts to one thread

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Abject Failures - The Compilation (Vol. I - XXI)

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Actually he should stop posting altogether.

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Again, accountability. This will be a miserable spring watching these wretched US cities enjoying playoff hockey, places which neither have passion or knowledge.

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You saying someone is lacking knowledge is the munchkin calling the midget short isn't it.

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Outside of the Niinimaki bust has the drafting in general and the drafting in the 1st round been that bad?! I would say it is too early to really tell but it is looking much better than the previous half dozen years.

Their 1st round drafting has been better in Lowe's time but they also have had some higher picks too. Radulov was taken around the same area most of Edmonton's 1st rounders under Lowe has been and that is a nice one. But we also picked Hemsky near the same spot.

If you were going to fire Lowe I would say you better come up with something better than drafting as his regime has been the best IMO since the early days and better than many other teams out there. Besides IMO our current stable of prospects is looking pretty deep, no superstars but good solid depth of guys that have a good chance of turning into good to very good players. If is funny you want to axe right when it looks like we are finally building the kind of depth you criticize us for not having.

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Just another corroborative detial, as to why Lowe should be fired tomorrow morning.

How is it that Nashville, that outpost that has inspired managerial leadership, although no real fan support on any basis that approaches what is enjoyed in Edmonton, can actually draft the likes of Suter and Weber, while the Oilers have most first round never actually get to the NHL?
We could go on and muse about why Nashville found Zidlicky and Timmonen , clearly either one better than the defensive bargage in the Oilers line-up all season and in their vaunted "system"?

We could have made the same point with San Jose, and in a different way with Dallas and Minnesota.



Again, accountability. This will be a miserable spring watching these wretched US cities enjoying playoff hockey, places which neither have passion or knowledge.


CAn't we get accountability for this disater.

Last night's game was so pathetic to watch it was beyond words.

Couldn't Lowe have add one real player other than Nedved over the course of the season to actually make the Oilers better? It was all subtraction and ineptifude.
Once again copy and paste. It's the same garbage coming from you after every loss. If you hate the Oilers, go cheer for the Flames. I'm getting sick of reading your pathetic garbage.

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You think Lowe should be fired partially for what's happend since the Smyth trade??? I'm not gonna lie to you buddy, he didn't plan on over half the lineup getting hurt, and they weren't going to make the playoffs anyways!

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Wake up.

Every loss is an insult to Oilers fans. This "abortion" of a season which other posters now recognize has come down to Lowe's accountability.

From the first hints that the whole concept was foul this year when the Oilers didn't compete in Anaheim in the first game against Pronger followed the next night with thier other non effort against Phoenix should have caused Lowe to act.

He didn't. All of his moves this year made us worse. Would it have been so wrong to have a general manager who tried to compete this year instead of doing nothing other than bungle signings and totally mishandle Pronger.

These are facts.

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Wake up.

Every loss is an insult to Oilers fans. This "abortion" of a season which other posters now recognize has come down to Lowe's accountability.
dammit why cant our team go 82-0

KLOW IS AN ABJECT FAILURE!!

edit: *** does abject even mean

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abject - as low as you can go, as bad as it gets.

In other words, Lowe's performance this year.

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Outside of the Niinimaki bust has the drafting in general and the drafting in the 1st round been that bad?! I would say it is too early to really tell but it is looking much better than the previous half dozen years.

Their 1st round drafting has been better in Lowe's time but they also have had some higher picks too. Radulov was taken around the same area most of Edmonton's 1st rounders under Lowe has been and that is a nice one. But we also picked Hemsky near the same spot.

If you were going to fire Lowe I would say you better come up with something better than drafting as his regime has been the best IMO since the early days and better than many other teams out there. Besides IMO our current stable of prospects is looking pretty deep, no superstars but good solid depth of guys that have a good chance of turning into good to very good players. If is funny you want to axe right when it looks like we are finally building the kind of depth you criticize us for not having.
He's blatantly blaming Lowe for Slats' drafting.

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Wake up.

Every loss is an insult to Oilers fans. This "abortion" of a season which other posters now recognize has come down to Lowe's accountability.

From the first hints that the whole concept was foul this year when the Oilers didn't compete in Anaheim in the first game against Pronger followed the next night with thier other non effort against Phoenix should have caused Lowe to act.

He didn't. All of his moves this year made us worse. Would it have been so wrong to have a general manager who tried to compete this year instead of doing nothing other than bungle signings and totally mishandle Pronger.

These are facts.
Aside from "abject," "facts" is your favourite word then? Because you use them more than you should.

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Just another corroborative detial, as to why Lowe should be fired tomorrow morning.

How is it that Nashville, that outpost that has inspired managerial leadership, although no real fan support on any basis that approaches what is enjoyed in Edmonton, can actually draft the likes of Suter and Weber, while the Oilers have most first round never actually get to the NHL?
This is where I stopped reading. How can you accused Lowe of not getting Suter when Suter was drafted 7th overall in that 2003 draft. Weber wasn't a 1st round draftee and a second rounder. Once again in the second round, he was drafted by the Preds prior to the Oilers draft slot. You should actually try using players that are actually available when the Oilers draft and not players that are gone prior to their draft pick.

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This is where I stopped reading. How can you accused Lowe of not getting Suter when Suter was drafted 7th overall in that 2003 draft. Weber wasn't a 1st round draftee and a second rounder. Once again in the second round, he was drafted by the Preds prior to the Oilers draft slot. You should actually try using players that are actually available when the Oilers draft and not players that are gone prior to their draft pick.
S2H Vs. matmik, the dream match!!! Seems like S2H just layed the smack down in this posters opinion!!!

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The year in total is a fact. Lowe needs to wear it.

As for what Suter and Weber mean, they are indicative of one organization that actually find talent and another who seems pathologically bent on trading away its talent for nothing, signing mediocrity and have one drafting accomplishment in a decade.

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Lowe's Drafting

These are players currently on roster from drafts since Lowe became GM. I will omit 2000 as he became GM 2 weeks prior to draft.

2001
Ales Hemsky - Round 1 (13th overall)
Jussi Markkanen - Round 5 (133 overall)

2002
Jarret Stoll - Round 2 (36 overall)
Matt Greene - Round 2 (44 overall)

2003
Marc-Antoine Pouliot - Round 1 (22 overall)
Jean-Francois Jacques - Round 2 (68 overall)
Zack Stortini - Round 3 (94 overall)
Mathieu Roy - Round 7 (215 overall)

2004
Bryan Young - Round 5 (146 overall)

That's 9 players that Lowe drafted since becoming GM. Plus Brodziak and Syvret were also up were draftdd by Lowe. Lowe's drafting has been a lot better than Slats.


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The year in total is a fact.
Yes, that seems about right. How clever of you to have noticed.

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Lowe needs to wear it.
Lowe and Lowe alone?

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I have had a vision, next year, we need a new sticky at the top of the page:

Random Thoughs/Rant Thread

and poof, we're all set. Dude, c'mon, its the same thing over and over and over again. You think Lowe should be fired or should resign, we get it. You've been saying since xmas that Lowe should resign. We got it, this is getting ridiculous.

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Greene was in 2002, you could also include Jussi as well as Stoll and Pouliot
I pressed the submit button by accident. I've got the list updated there now.

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I pressed the submit button by accident. I've got the list updated there now.
fair enough

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Once again copy and paste. It's the same garbage coming from you after every loss. If you hate the Oilers, go cheer for the Flames. I'm getting sick of reading your pathetic garbage.
Hey at least he would cheer for a team that is capable of winning. Not a bad idea for all of you eh?

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We already have a couple of abject failure threads and this one is not going in a good direction. Cut out the personal atacks next time people.

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