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12-16-2003, 11:43 AM
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Philly gets Comrie

Woywitka, a 1st and a 3rd, that's what you get when you have prospects.

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12-16-2003, 11:58 AM
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god damn it.


now what are they going to do.
trade handzus for a D ?

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did bobby clarke not just say 2-3 weeks ago when there were rumours of him going there that there was no way they needed and or wanted a small centre, especially with Handzus, JR and Primeau already at centre....

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Wow.

They're scarier now. Jeez.

 
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I think there's no doubt that Philly has improved with Comrie. But I don't think he's gonna explode offensively and dramatically improve Phillies goal scoring. Yes he is a great talent, but keep in mind that Philly plays a different style than the high flying Oilers (just incase anyone is freaking out about this trade ). Of course he will help, but he does not make the Flyers unbeatable. You never know he may break out but he may not. Just look at Simon Gagne.

Also, I think this deal means the end of the road for a guy like Handzus. I don't see Clarke leaving their centres as Roenick, Primeau, Comrie, Handzus. There's just not enough ice time for all those guys. I'd bet he tries to ship out Handzus for a Dman. Then he'd really stick it to the Devils, Sens and yes even the Leafs

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12-16-2003, 01:26 PM
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I think there's no doubt that Philly has improved with Comrie. But I don't think he's gonna explode offensively and dramatically improve Phillies goal scoring. Yes he is a great talent, but keep in mind that Philly plays a different style than the high flying Oilers (just incase anyone is freaking out about this trade ). Of course he will help, but he does not make the Flyers unbeatable. You never know he may break out but he may not. Just look at Simon Gagne.

Also, I think this deal means the end of the road for a guy like Handzus. I don't see Clarke leaving their centres as Roenick, Primeau, Comrie, Handzus. There's just not enough ice time for all those guys. I'd bet he tries to ship out Handzus for a Dman. Then he'd really stick it to the Devils, Sens and yes even the Leafs
It will be interesting to see if he makes any impact in the playoffs...

If SIZE and GRIT will play any part in it...If Toronto and Phily play each other and its Toronto's big strong Forwards in a real rough series make Comrie disappear, then this move is irrelevant other than if you can trade a farm hand dman for a Number 2 center that can't hurt RIGHT NOW...

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My guess he moves Handzus back down to the 3rd line and puts Primeau on LW.

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Comrie scares you?

I agree that he's very talented, but he's hardly the kind of player that you should be scared to meet in the postseason.

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I love this move, if not just for the fact bobby has taken a red hot, well disiplined, first placed, hockey team and added a possible distraction...

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What the hell is Lowe doing? Terrible trade for Edmonton.

The 1st rounder is automatic in these types of trades and the 3rd rounder is pretty much meaningless.

So the best he could do was Woyitka for Comrie? Give me a break. Especially when Philly has guys like Gagne, Williams, Richards and Carter.

So the 1st overall team in the league has added one of the best young centers in the NHL and gave up nothing off their roster. Great.

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What the hell is Lowe doing? Terrible trade for Edmonton.

The 1st rounder is automatic in these types of trades and the 3rd rounder is pretty much meaningless.

So the best he could do was Woyitka for Comrie? Give me a break. Especially when Philly has guys like Gagne, Williams, Richards and Carter.

So the 1st overall team in the league has added one of the best young centers in the NHL and gave up nothing off their roster. Great.
Maybe there wa$ $omething el$e included in the deal??? But what?

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It'll hurt Philly more in the future... Jeff Woywitka has #1 potential.

Much tougher to land a guy like that then a 50-70 point centre.

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It'll hurt Philly more in the future... Jeff Woywitka has #1 potential.

Much tougher to land a guy like that then a 50-70 point centre.
Yeah I have to agree, Philly may have overpayed. Comrie may not become the impact player they hope for. And if Woywitka becomes a no1 Dman, Clarke will regret this one. Dmen like that are so hard to come by!

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12-16-2003, 02:06 PM
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my god guys, I think you are overrating Comrie. Personally I think this is highway robbery for Edmonton.

So the flyers got Comrie? All you have to do is win 4 out of 7 and the trade is rendered meaningless.

The flyers are still very beatable.

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The flyers are still very beatable.
I agree... Mike Comrie's got skills... but physically, he's not very intimidating.


I'd much rather see him on the second or third line then a healthy, young, physical, energized, motivated Woywitka in the first round.

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Hefty price the Flyers paid, especially considering they did not really fill a need. Woywitka, 1st and 3rd is more than I had expected to be the price for Comrie, although the Flyers did deal form a position of strength at D...

I wouldn't have done a Carlo, 1st and 3rd deal for Comrie though..

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Hefty price the Flyers paid, especially considering they did not really fill a need. Woywitka, 1st and 3rd is more than I had expected to be the price for Comrie, although the Flyers did deal form a position of strength at D...

I wouldn't have done a Carlo, 1st and 3rd deal for Comrie though..
Neither would I.Plus let's say by some odd occurence the leafs would acquire mike peca who would be be scarier to face in the playoffs down the middle the flyers with comrie or the leafs with the hard hitting peca

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Hackets in nets for philly

toronto has the edge in goal!

advantage leafs

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It'll hurt Philly more in the future... Jeff Woywitka has #1 potential.

Much tougher to land a guy like that then a 50-70 point centre.
Woywitka has the potential to be a good #3, he's not good enough in any area to be a #1, he's just a solid dman, IMO.

I don't understand how anyone thinks the Flyers overpaid. Had Comrie not been a holdout everyone would be saying the Flyers robbed the Oilers in this deal, I think everyone has forgot that Comrie is a very good young player. Any time you can get another team's best center (who's also only 23) for (good, not GREAT) picks and prospects, it's a steal, IMO.

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Woywitka has the potential to be a good #3, he's not good enough in any area to be a #1, he's just a solid dman, IMO.

I don't understand how anyone thinks the Flyers overpaid. Had Comrie not been a holdout everyone would be saying the Flyers robbed the Oilers in this deal, I think everyone has forgot that Comrie is a very good young player. Any time you can get another team's best center (who's also only 23) for (good, not GREAT) picks and prospects, it's a steal, IMO.
I agree good deal for Flyers....trading extra depth for a proven player is a Win.. Was it a need for Flyers ....I don't think so and Comrie might struggle in the East as he seems more like a Western Conf player..

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Woywitka has the potential to be a good #3, he's not good enough in any area to be a #1, he's just a solid dman, IMO.

I don't understand how anyone thinks the Flyers overpaid. Had Comrie not been a holdout everyone would be saying the Flyers robbed the Oilers in this deal, I think everyone has forgot that Comrie is a very good young player. Any time you can get another team's best center (who's also only 23) for (good, not GREAT) picks and prospects, it's a steal, IMO.
Agreed.

Comrie for nothing off the roster and a non-Blue Chip Prospect, plus.

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Here is a interesting take on things...

Happy? Not Oilers, not Flyers, not Ducks

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/column...jim&id=1688000

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Hefty price the Flyers paid, especially considering they did not really fill a need. Woywitka, 1st and 3rd is more than I had expected to be the price for Comrie, although the Flyers did deal form a position of strength at D...

I wouldn't have done a Carlo, 1st and 3rd deal for Comrie though..

Would you have done McCauley, Boyes and a 1st for Owen Nolan?

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Would you have done McCauley, Boyes and a 1st for Owen Nolan?
Would you have done Maxim Ouellett (1st/1999), Jeff Woywitka (1st/2001), 1st/2002, 1st/2004, 2nd/2002, 3rd/2002, and a 3rd/2005

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Adam Oates for 2 months and Mike Comrie?

The reason why Quinn paid the price for Nolan was because he was in a bidding war with Bob Clarke. Given what he is willing to part with for a player he wants, this is why Nolan came at that price.

Quinn would have been villified by the Toronto press if he had not pulled the tigger, so what is he supposed to do.

By the way, I am not so convinced about Boyes. I'll take Stajan and Steen over him obviously (both were rumored as part of the package instead of Boyes). Even Wellwood is exceeding Boyes' performance in his first year.

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By the way, I am not so convinced about Boyes. I'll take Stajan and Steen over him obviously (both were rumored as part of the package instead of Boyes). Even Wellwood is exceeding Boyes' performance in his first year.
Actually, Wellwood might be exceeding Boyes 2nd. year in his first year. Looks like Wellwood is making the adjustment a little easier than Bradly did. I did think of Boyes more as a finisher than a playmaker, and Wellwood is more the playmaker.

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