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12-16-2003, 05:18 PM
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I would had given uo a 1st rnder and 5 million bucks to edmonton

Yo uge ta great skater in comries who is a young offensive threat in the nhl


A good young gun!

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12-16-2003, 05:21 PM
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The pressure has been on JFJ to improve the defence since the start of the season. I don't see how it changes anything now with the Comrie deal.
Hopefully all that changes is that it would keep JFJ away from waiting for the perfect deal. If he knows he can't wait for the perfect trade then he will have to do something. Although on the other side, you don't want him to feel forced to make a bad deal. But I've got faith in Fergie!

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12-16-2003, 05:45 PM
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I do not think Philly even takes the leafs seriously. They made this deal with the Devils in mind. This is fine by me; don't take them seriously.

Bob can do whatever he wants. the goalie will always be the fatal flaw in the end.

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12-16-2003, 06:00 PM
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I do not think Philly even takes the leafs seriously. They made this deal with the Devils in mind. This is fine by me; don't take them seriously.

First Bobby Clark knows the Leafs are tied with his team for first, he doesn't think they are a joke who aren't to be taken seriously. Second who cares whot he FLyers had in mind, the leafs need to have the Flyers in mind. And if the Flyers are improving their team the Leafs need to do the same (and they needed to anyway) and it should make that fact much more clear to Ferguson.

Bob can do whatever he wants. the goalie will always be the fatal flaw in the end

They seem to be doing well so far, and I would be susprised if one of their centers is flipped for a goalie.

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Flyers gave up nothing to get a 20-30 NHL goal scorer.

Who exactly is Woywitka? (don't bother) Oh, yes, isn't he like Brendan Bell top defender one year in the CHL?

So Brendan Bell, a first around 25-30, and a 90th. or so pick in 2005.

Whoopie

Oilers traded a known for a pig in a poke.

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I do not think Philly even takes the leafs seriously. They made this deal with the Devils in mind. This is fine by me; don't take them seriously.

First Bobby Clark knows the Leafs are tied with his team for first, he doesn't think they are a joke who aren't to be taken seriously. Second who cares whot he FLyers had in mind, the leafs need to have the Flyers in mind. And if the Flyers are improving their team the Leafs need to do the same (and they needed to anyway) and it should make that fact much more clear to Ferguson.

Bob can do whatever he wants. the goalie will always be the fatal flaw in the end

They seem to be doing well so far, and I would be susprised if one of their centers is flipped for a goalie.
I think we are different wave length's here ..

Had Comrie been dealt to NJ ...Would be having the same Fergy must react quick respose to keep pace..

My point being you can't just jump because someone made a move..

There will be better players for cheaper prices later on at the trade dealine.. Why overpay now for an item on Sale later...Particularly if you are in a winning position...

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[B]The Thrashers GM said on Leafs Lunch he was interested in Comrie, I wouldn't be susprised at all if he gets moved to them for Defoe.
Dafoe is an upgrade on their current situation? I don't think so. There are a couple of other goalies out there that I would go after first. IMO, Dafoe is a lateral move.. if that.

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Dafoe is an upgrade on their current situation? I don't think so. There are a couple of other goalies out there that I would go after first. IMO, Dafoe is a lateral move.. if that.
JS in Annaheim?

Comrie, Eche and

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12-16-2003, 07:51 PM
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JS in Annaheim?

Comrie, Eche and

I am guessing Handzus to Phoenix for Sean Burke..

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I do not think Philly even takes the leafs seriously. They made this deal with the Devils in mind. This is fine by me; don't take them seriously.

First Bobby Clark knows the Leafs are tied with his team for first, he doesn't think they are a joke who aren't to be taken seriously. Second who cares whot he FLyers had in mind, the leafs need to have the Flyers in mind. And if the Flyers are improving their team the Leafs need to do the same (and they needed to anyway) and it should make that fact much more clear to Ferguson.

Bob can do whatever he wants. the goalie will always be the fatal flaw in the end

They seem to be doing well so far, and I would be susprised if one of their centers is flipped for a goalie.
Well I'm so glad Philly picked him up then, other wise how would Ferguson have known to get some help on the blue line?? Of course the Leafs are going to look for blue line help, not because Philly picked up Comrie, but because they need it. I'd keep a closer eye on the Devils than the Flyers; that is if I was going to "keep pace" with another team in the conference.

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Seeing as Bob Clarke already said to the press that he doesn't like small centers like Mike Comrie and Comrie was in Pheonix working out a contract with them, my guess is he'll be traded for Sean Burke and maybe even a pick the other way to make up the age difference.

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i would, the first will be late most likely, the third is a crap shoot and cocacola is unproven in the NHL...Comrie is, easy deal IMO.

Not to mention that Colaiacovo can't stay healthy in the AHL. I would trade him if only for that reason.

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I do not think Philly even takes the leafs seriously. They made this deal with the Devils in mind. This is fine by me; don't take them seriously.

First Bobby Clark knows the Leafs are tied with his team for first, he doesn't think they are a joke who aren't to be taken seriously. Second who cares whot he FLyers had in mind, the leafs need to have the Flyers in mind. And if the Flyers are improving their team the Leafs need to do the same (and they needed to anyway) and it should make that fact much more clear to Ferguson.

Bob can do whatever he wants. the goalie will always be the fatal flaw in the end

They seem to be doing well so far, and I would be susprised if one of their centers is flipped for a goalie.
they do seem to be doing well, true.

But they also had good regular seasons with Czechmanek, Boucher, Burke (who was not so good then for whatever reason), Vanbuisbrook, Hextall, any other ridiculous goalie Clarke goalie gambles I am forgetting?

Oh yah, Hackett and Esche.

The Flyers are not world beaters.

I would be more concerned about New Jersey and Ottawa.

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12-17-2003, 04:04 AM
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Seeing as Bob Clarke already said to the press that he doesn't like small centers like Mike Comrie and Comrie was in Pheonix working out a contract with them, my guess is he'll be traded for Sean Burke and maybe even a pick the other way to make up the age difference.
now we are making sense. If this is true, then Clarke seems to be slowly pulling his head out of his arse.

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First off, despite what Sluggo says, New Jersey to me is still the team to beat in the east, not Philly. This move by Clarke does not improve the Flyers chances over the Leafs or give them the extra lacking advantage. It wasn't the skill sets or snipers that beat the Leafs last playoffs, it was the strong forechecking and net driving which Comrie doesn't do.

This shouldn't "light the fire" under Fergie any more than if Columbus had of attained Comrie. I've said it before many times, that unless this team needed a major shake up (which they don't) then they should wait until closer to the deadline as others have mentioned when prices are lower "or" if another team has a fire sale. There is no need for the Leafs to persue a trade just because Philly is overstacked in the middle. And if the deal Philly made is to ultimitely improve the goal position, then so be it. It's something they probably would have done anyway, but it doesn't force the Leafs to counter.

At the deadline (or close to) the Leafs know what they need, a solid defenseman, and another forward would be nice. But not the type that Sluggo keeps harping about (the Berezin sniper type), more of a Ryan Smith type of forward that drives the net and sets up shop in front of a goalie on the powerplay. "They're" the type of players who make the difference in a 7 game series, and "they're" the type of goals (the ugly ones) that occur most often in a gritty series.

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Maybe they Phillies were just trading to try and match Toronto’s depth at center???

This makes them a better team now, esp in the regular season, but whay should toronto feel any heat to do something drastic. They still passed them in the standings last night. Teams in 1st over-all rarely do something drastic.

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Not to mention that Colaiacovo can't stay healthy in the AHL. I would trade him if only for that reason.
i don't think that a broken nose and a bruised foot due to blocking a shot is any reason to think someone is injury prone ... these types of injuries could happen to anyone at anytime...colaiacovo has been unlucky this season ... colaiacovo has been playing really well in st. john's, and shouldn't be stereotyped as a fragile player b/c of the injuries he's sustained this year imo.

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JS in Annaheim?

Comrie, Eche and
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Maybe they Phillies were just trading to try and match Toronto’s depth at center???
Could be.

Vernon Wells is pretty good.

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I am guessing Handzus to Phoenix for Sean Burke..
Makes little sense as we traded Handzus because he didn't work out in Phoenix. He was never happy here, and we've since addressed his departure.

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Makes little sense as we traded Handzus because he didn't work out in Phoenix. He was never happy here, and we've since addressed his departure.
That was the whole idea behind it..Burke has been tried and failed in Philly and Handzus in Phoenix...

If one team is going to try again ..why not the other...

You would have admit Phoenix could use the Big Center NOW...and rid themselves of a big contract in Burke...

and Philly and Phoenix have been good trading partners before...

Don't blame me that's what the Magic 8 ball said...

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They still passed them in the standings last night. Teams in 1st over-all rarely do something drastic.
Look again, we are tied, and we have a game in hand..

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Look again, we are tied, and we have a game in hand..
Yeah, but we got one extra win.

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why pressure? Lol a) we knew we needed help on D for a long time now.

b) whats our record??? 10-0-1-0 in past 11 i think... or something insanely like that.

Why fix something that isn't broken?

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No pressure what so ever, the seats are full, Leaf fans are lined up to buy merchandise, all Fergy and the Leafs worry about is how many bodies will be left standing at playoff time and that Eddie has a hot hand and get them into the 2nd or 3rd rd. Pressure is when the team is loosing millions and your still trying to compete on the ice. Not much pressure when your worst critic's are willing to reach into their pockets and give you their last dime to see your games.

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