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04-04-2007, 09:08 PM
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have a good easter!
Thanks. Same to each and every one of you in this thread. Have a great weekend.


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04-04-2007, 09:15 PM
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About Howell/Stanley : The main knack about Stanley that I found out was his skating. Remember, I have a goalie that really one weakness : probably even Wade Belak is more agile than Roy is with a stick, and outside of the crease. I already had my smooth skater, puck moving guy (+ a defensive cog, that is more of a postionnal guy than an hitting guy with Tom Johnson), so kinda needed the rugged D-Men that Howell was. And my offence will be able to generate a lot of offense on its own, and mainly to keep the puck in the opposite zone, so the need of a more "offensive" D-Men wasn't quite urging (yet). There could have been at least one very good choice amongst D-Men that could have been as good as Howell, but he wasn't as effective as Howell defensively, didn't logged as much icetime... The fact that Howell was a (relatively) disciplined D-Men (heck, playing on that Rangers squad huge minutes shouldn't have been easy on PIM'S, yet Howell kept his totals relatively low year after year) helped a lot in my choice and somewhat continued the trend of "big gentlemens" I started with ... well, my forward group.

And I think people here are wise... Hey... Howell was playing the Rangers, which is a little bit better than playing for the Sharks in 92-93, but isn't quite a great team, either. And you can also see it this way : only 4 Norris winners could be considered as defensive D-Mens ( NOT 2-way D-Mens). Howell is one of them. And he was the last to go.

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04-04-2007, 09:36 PM
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im back nwo from work


how much time left ?

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04-04-2007, 09:37 PM
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That's a great explanation MXD. I have Howell and Stanley roughly at the same level, though I thought that Stanley would be a better fit with Seibert (so I'm glad that he fell to me). Either way, they're both great players with different attributes.

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04-04-2007, 09:40 PM
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LL, please pick soon because I have leave right away

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04-04-2007, 09:50 PM
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or excellent second line left winger: he used to be an incredible tip-in and garbage goal expert back in his Flyers/Lindros days, in fact only Dino was better at converting the broken play and dumping in the garbage, a goaltender's nightmare... I never saw Esposito play but hear this was his forte as well.
I'd like to contradict you, but I must shut about it at this point of the draft...
But saying Dino was the only one better than The Bod is an understatement.
However, as far as "overall" skill is considered, I'd go for The Bod in this category.

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04-04-2007, 09:53 PM
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how much time left ?
You have slightly under two hours remaining. But the sooner, the better.

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04-04-2007, 09:57 PM
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Spitfire11 can make my next pick, even though it looks like both B_L and LL are going to pick promptly.

See you all next week!

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04-04-2007, 11:27 PM
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This is getting to be bullsh*t.........!

arrbez picked at 8:49pm EST, vancityluongo was on a 11hr clock after that. LL could have picked this morning after I messaged him or when he returned home from work.

Lebda, your up.

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04-04-2007, 11:30 PM
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i was at work guys sorry

i am home now

goignto pick within minutes

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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:

To VanI (Vegas) : 8th (200), 8th (208) , 22nd, 23rd

To Me (Jets) : 11th , 14th, 15th, 16th

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have a good easter!
As the 16th round selection involved has already been traded, the deal has been changed to

To VanI (Vegas) : 8th (200), 8th (208), 21st, 22nd, 23rd

To Me (Jets) : 11th , 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th

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As the 16th round selection involved has already been traded, the deal has been changed to

To VanI (Vegas) : 8th (200), 8th (208), 21st, 22nd, 23rd

To Me (Jets) : 11th , 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th
I have Lebda's pick. Saskatoon is pleased to select D Randy Carlyle.

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This is getting to be bullsh*t.........!

arrbez picked at 8:49pm EST, vancityluongo was on a 11hr clock after that. LL could have picked this morning after I messaged him or when he returned home from work.

Lebda, your up.
when i got home from work i got online 5 min later and read your pm

11 hrs after u sent it

I was eating my spaghetti then lost came on and well i forgot haha


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04-04-2007, 11:51 PM
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I have Lebda's pick. Saskatoon is pleased to select D Randy Carlyle.
... never mind

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04-05-2007, 12:12 AM
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And maybe we can get Evil Speaker to enlighten us on the Stanley vs Howell convorsation.
In terms of style of play it has been taken care of.
Statistically:
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPointsPIMAverages G/A/PTop D Scoring1stAS2ndASHartNorrisCupsPlayoffs GP/G/A/PTop D Scoring (Playoffs)
1950's              
Allan Stanley577481261744715.8/15.3/21.13,5,5,7,1000--036/3/11/141,3
Harry Howell4792573985013.6/10.7/14.310,00--016/2/1/3-
1960's              
Harry Howell681571902476465.9/19.5/25.42,3,4,7,9105,1,5018/1/1/2-
Allan Stanley627501772272995.6/19.8/25.43,4,6,703-2,3473/4/25/292,2,2,4,4

*Top D scoring = Total season points amoung defencemen, the number represents where the player ranked in respective season
*Averages are calculated by dividing goals assists and points by games played, multiplied by the number of games typicaly played in a season in the respective era (x70)


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04-05-2007, 12:24 AM
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Harry Howell was famous for his shotblocking, and was arguably the best ever at it. Allan Stanley most certainly had more team success, but the flipside of that is that he had far better teammates; he was Tim Horton's partner most of the time. On the other hand, the Rangers were just a horrible team during that era, and without some support, nobody can win a Cup by themselves. Emile Francis said that Howell easily logged more ice time than any other defenceman in the 60s simply because the Rangers had to keep him on the ice. Their other options were limited.
It's scary to think that there have already been 4 defensemen selected from those Maple Leaf teams (Horton, Pronovost, Brewer, and Stanley). Talk about defensive depth.

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Deepest defence ever, there may be better top ends like Robinson/Savard/Lapointe. But there was simply never a weak d-man on the ice with those Leafs teams, most of them could change the game.

How many more days 'til I get to pick again?

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About Howell/Stanley : The main knack about Stanley that I found out was his skating. Remember, I have a goalie that really one weakness : probably even Wade Belak is more agile than Roy is with a stick, and outside of the crease. I already had my smooth skater, puck moving guy (+ a defensive cog, that is more of a postionnal guy than an hitting guy with Tom Johnson), so kinda needed the rugged D-Men that Howell was. And my offence will be able to generate a lot of offense on its own, and mainly to keep the puck in the opposite zone, so the need of a more "offensive" D-Men wasn't quite urging (yet). There could have been at least one very good choice amongst D-Men that could have been as good as Howell, but he wasn't as effective as Howell defensively, didn't logged as much icetime... The fact that Howell was a (relatively) disciplined D-Men (heck, playing on that Rangers squad huge minutes shouldn't have been easy on PIM'S, yet Howell kept his totals relatively low year after year) helped a lot in my choice and somewhat continued the trend of "big gentlemens" I started with ... well, my forward group.

And I think people here are wise... Hey... Howell was playing the Rangers, which is a little bit better than playing for the Sharks in 92-93, but isn't quite a great team, either. And you can also see it this way : only 4 Norris winners could be considered as defensive D-Mens ( NOT 2-way D-Mens). Howell is one of them. And he was the last to go.
It's funny because earlier in the draft I wanted a defensive pairing of Tom Johnson and Allan Stanley because then I would have the two partners of my two favorite defencemen! (Harvey and Horton).

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Deepest defence ever, there may be better top ends like Robinson/Savard/Lapointe. But there was simply never a weak d-man on the ice with those Leafs teams, most of them could change the game.

How many more days 'til I get to pick again?


Why don't you ask Mario or Gordie?

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Why don't you ask Mario or Gordie?
Mario advises me that if he and Gordie play all 60 minutes then the other players are irrelevant.

Gordie says that seeing as I'm the one that signs the cheques, whatever picks I make will be the right picks to lead us to glory, and that he'll make sure those words come true.

So, you're right, I have nothing to worry about.

And for the record, Clint is saying, and has been saying consistently since I introduced him to the equipment manager, "We get masks? Oh, they're glorious!"

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Mario advises me that if he and Gordie play all 60 minutes then the other players are irrelevant.

Gordie says that seeing as I'm the one that signs the cheques, whatever picks I make will be the right picks to lead us to glory, and that he'll make sure those words come true.

So, you're right, I have nothing to worry about.

And for the record, Clint is saying, and has been saying consistently since I introduced him to the equipment manager, "We get masks? Oh, they're glorious!"

Really? The Maroons are having some problems in practice. I can't get Cheesie to stay in the net when Rocket's shooting!

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Really? The Maroons are having some problems in practice. I can't get Cheesie to stay in the net when Rocket's shooting!
Clint keeps deliberatly stopping pucks with his face and then laughing hysterically.

But, I can relate, if I looked into Maurice's eyes before he shot, I'd step out of the net and let him have the goal.

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Really? The Maroons are having some problems in practice. I can't get Cheesie to stay in the net when Rocket's shooting!
You're able to get Cheevers to practice?

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