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04-11-2007, 06:42 AM
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No Deal.

Koivu is too injury susceptible me

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04-11-2007, 10:19 AM
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I don't know about top quality, but decent potential or future PPQB type guy maybe?
Maybe you could get a guy like Pavel Valentenko.

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04-13-2007, 06:09 PM
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Proposal: kovalev and SJ 1st rd pick for the 5th pick...

how about it?

i read everywhere that the caps need players and not everyone will go their via UFA's

i don't think the salary would be an issue in washigton and perhaps kovalev and ovechkin as well as semin can hit it off

just wondering if cap fans would be interested

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04-13-2007, 06:15 PM
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i heard Kovalev was lazy - is that true?

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04-13-2007, 06:18 PM
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04-13-2007, 06:28 PM
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pass.

also please change the thread title so it looks like a proposal, not an actual trade.

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04-13-2007, 06:34 PM
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Not even close.

If the Caps want to add an old russian via trade I'd prefer Fedorov by miles over Kovalev.

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04-13-2007, 06:45 PM
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Kovalev lazy?

Never!


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04-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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i heard Kovalev was lazy - is that true?
I don't think he's "lazy" exactly... he works hard, trains hard... it's just, well, if he's not on the right wavelength with the coach or his teammates or whatever, he can sometimes look out of synch enough that sometimes you're left wondering what the heck he's doing. I think he's dedicated and always wants to try hard and compete hard... just that he has his own idea of how to play his game.

Of course, he can still be quasi-effective despite that... he's big, he can hold the puck in traffic, he can really put some caution into opposing defenses, especially on the PP. He'll get his points and chances no matter how he's interfacing with the team system.

This year, I think the big unknown for the fans in Kovalev's sub-par season is what his health status has been throughout the season. We know he has a chronic knee problem... we don't know how much or if that affected him seriously. We know he played at least a month with a bad elbow that he subsequently decided was just too bad to keep playing through, and he was out for 10 or so games. He had a scare with vertigo after the flu. All that has the potential to add up to a good bit of the difference between an abysmal-seeming 47-pt season and the 60-70 he is probably more typically capable of. He probably led the league in goalposts hit.

Anyway, I don't think the Habs will trade him or look to trade him. Us fans are frustrated and trying to dump him off, but really, I don't see Bob Gainey doing it. He doesn't exactly have a lot of firepower to turn to, and unless he really thinks he can lure any big-name UFAs to Montreal this summer, he doesn't really have any salary problems that would necessitate moving Kovalev's $4.5M. Not much incentive to move him for an NHL GM. (Which is a stark contrast to us armchair amateurs).

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04-13-2007, 08:29 PM
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Kovalev does not fill either of the Caps three main needs.

#1. A top pair defenseman. either with top defense first skills or with good offensive production.

#2. a quality veteran 3-4 defenseman that fills the needs that #1 does not.

#3. a quality veteran center to play next to Ovechkin and on the first power play unit.

All the other comments about Kovalev are really only relivant if he were a player that filled one of the Caps major holes. He does not and so the conversation ends there.

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Kovalev does not fill either of the Caps three main needs.

#1. A top pair defenseman. either with top defense first skills or with good offensive production.

#2. a quality veteran 3-4 defenseman that fills the needs that #1 does not.

#3. a quality veteran center to play next to Ovechkin and on the first power play unit.

All the other comments about Kovalev are really only relivant if he were a player that filled one of the Caps major holes. He does not and so the conversation ends there.
Actually I think Kovalev fills a main need: power play point that shoots left. I would put that has one of the top 3 needs for the Caps (the other 2 being a center and a top defenseman that has offense and defense skills) Kovalev has a great shot and the offensive skills that would improve the power play. However I don't know his contract and I don't really think it would fit the budget for what the Caps are looking to spend on a power play specialist.

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I think TXPD is 100% right here, Kovalev makes no sense for the Caps. In truth with the way he is playing and the salary he makes, he makes little to no sense for almost all clubs.

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04-13-2007, 10:40 PM
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If he was 30 and not 34 (leaning towards 35), I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. But simply because of the age factor, I would pass. This team needs core players who will be here for the next 4-8 years if we really want to be a perennial contender.

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04-14-2007, 12:44 AM
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if we want Kovalev who is an UFA next year all you get is a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick.

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Kovalev makes $4.5 million in 2007-08 and again in 2008-09. Suffice it to say, that's not a contract that Montreal is going to be dealing to Washington.

This player doesn't begin to provide the consistent level of high-caliber play that the Caps would need to get out a guy to give him that much money. They will pay a guy upwards of $5 million, but the right guy. Tops on their list will be consistency and work ethic.

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04-14-2007, 01:27 AM
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what about this deal ?

San Jose 1st round pick + Kovalev

for

Washington 2nd round pick

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04-14-2007, 11:26 AM
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How about Our second round pick plus buffalo's first rounder for your first round pick? Thats the more likely deal to go down.

The caps don't want Kovalev

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04-14-2007, 12:02 PM
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what about this deal ?

San Jose 1st round pick + Kovalev

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Washington 2nd round pick
How many years are left on Kovalev's deal? We could make the trade and then buy him out . . .

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04-16-2007, 07:16 AM
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How many years are left on Kovalev's deal? We could make the trade and then buy him out . . .
2 years at 4.5m$

IMO it's a cheap contract (if you compare it with the money that UFA will get this summer)... yes I can predict future !

but it's not that bad of a deal.
Montreal just need him out because of last year Kovalev controversy !

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No thanks. We don't need controversy here...trying to keep the powder dry!

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