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06-22-2007, 08:03 PM
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Did we really have to trade up to get this guy, with Esposito and Cherepanov still on the board??

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06-22-2007, 08:09 PM
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Did we really have to trade up to get this guy, with Esposito and Cherepanov still on the board??
In other words, is "this guy" worth Espo/Cherepanov+ whatever pick we gave up?

I say hell no.
Sure we aren't physical, but a sure fire third liner isn't that hard to come by, on the other hand how often do you get a shot at a top 5 talent?

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06-22-2007, 08:13 PM
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I highly doubt that was worth giving up a second round pick for.

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06-22-2007, 08:18 PM
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Well, you know this team. They have their list and will do a lot to get a guy who was on it. I can only assume that they like the size+speed combination, and he was high on their list.

I'm not sure I like giving up a second to move up two spots when St. Louis just moved up more for a third (or did I misunderstand that trade?)....

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http://www.startribune.com/blogs/wildblog/

TT convinced the Flames were going to take him at 18, says Russo.

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06-23-2007, 01:25 AM
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Wouldn't have helped the Flames any...

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06-23-2007, 04:25 AM
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so in theory gillies cost you the 12th pick in 04, the 19th pick in 07 ?
big price to pay


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06-23-2007, 08:27 AM
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Based on what Risebrough just said on the NHL Network, looks like we're starting the season with a Manny/Backstrom tandem, and Josh gets more time in the AHL. Unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, of course.

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06-23-2007, 08:47 AM
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so in theory gillies cost you the 12th pick in 04, the 19th and 70th pick in 07 ?
big price to pay
I've never liked this type of analysis. Assumes everything happens in a vacuum.

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06-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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Based on what Risebrough just said on the NHL Network, looks like we're starting the season with a Manny/Backstrom tandem, and Josh gets more time in the AHL. Unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, of course.

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06-23-2007, 11:06 AM
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Really upset you picked Falk before the Penguins could.

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06-23-2007, 11:24 AM
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Hello from Spokane, WA

Thought I'd pass on some information about Justin Falk who was just drafted by the Wild. I've watched him play for the Spokane Chiefs here in the WHL since he was acquired from the Calgary Hitmen. If there's any information I can help with let me know. If you would be interested in updates here with the Chiefs during the upcoming season let me know.

Justin has improved greatly since the 05-06 season. He's gotten to be one of the Chiefs top defensemen. He's gone up against the top lines/players in the league. He can play on the PP and PK. He doesn't have a great scoring touch but his defense has saved the Chiefs a few times.

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04-05 with Calgary 4GP 0G 0A -1 2PIM
2005 Playoffs 5GP 0G 0A -1
05-06 with Clagary 5GP 0G 2A +2 0PIM
05-06 with Spokane 48GP 0G 8A +1 35PIM
06-07 62GP 3G 12A +11 88PIM
2007 Playoffs 6GP 0G 0A -1 8PIM

Let me know if there's anything I can help with.

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06-23-2007, 11:53 AM
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Thanks, neilwolf!

Feel free to post updates about Falk at any time. We always appreciate input from folks who see out prospects more than we do

Huge guy, this Justin Falk is. How's his skating?

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06-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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Thanks, neilwolf!

Feel free to post updates about Falk at any time. We always appreciate input from folks who see out prospects more than we do

Huge guy, this Justin Falk is. How's his skating?
Falk skates pretty well and quick for a big guy. He's got great puck handling ability and sees up the ice well.

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06-23-2007, 01:08 PM
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Nice late round choice with Carson McMillian from the Hitmen....Big-bodied winger, should see much more ice time next year with some graduations up front....Saw a regular shift, mostly on the 3rd-4th lines, but he was always on the PK....Good skater, plays physical, excellent defensively....If the Hitmen shortened the bench to go to 3 lines, he'd still get out there, especially in short-handed situations....I think he's got a little un-tapped offensive potential if paired with a good play-maker....Had a strong playoff, including a highlight reel short handed marker.....

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Falk skates pretty well and quick for a big guy. He's got great puck handling ability and sees up the ice well.
Is he a punishing defensive defenseman, or a positionally sound defensive defenseman??

And for those of you that are here that have watched the players we drafted, I thank you for stopping by to let us know your views on them. It is greatly appreciated.

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06-23-2007, 01:53 PM
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Some info I found about our 6th rounder:

4. Harri Ilvonen, D

A fairly unknown player until the fall of 2006, Ilvonen was the sensation of the semester, which almost led to him being picked to play in the World Junior Championships with his elders. Instead, he became the first of his draft class to accumulate experience in the Finnish SM-liiga while also reaching strong results in the Jr A league. Born late in the year, Ilvonen didn’t play in a top international tournament in his draft year.

Ilvonen has found his groove in juniors as a two-way defenseman, although his abilities would suggest at more of a stay-at-home game at professional level. He is a smart player who never panics with the puck -- getting the team out of a defensive zone is one of his strong points. A smooth but not particularly fast skater, Ilvonen lacks some top skills which he would distinguish himself with in the NHL.

Limited international exposure can hurt Ilvonen in the draft. Some consider him the best Finn of the draft class.

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06-23-2007, 02:47 PM
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I see a lot of good qualities in these late rounders the Wild selected. There's size, work ethic, and physical play. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied, especially with the 2 d'men they drafted.

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06-23-2007, 04:19 PM
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Did we really have to trade up to get this guy, with Esposito and Cherepanov still on the board??
No we didn't have too. This was a horrible trade for the Wild. Who cares if Calgary was going to take him, the Wild would still have gotten a player who's just as good with the 19th pick.

What bothers me even more is compairing this trade to the SJ-TOR trade. We trade a 1st and 2nd to move up three spots in a so-so draft. Toronto trades a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in '09 and they get Toskala and Bell (at a combined $3.4 million). It just shows that the Wild could've gotten a lot more with the 1st and 2nd picks than just moving up three spots in the draft.

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06-23-2007, 04:32 PM
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In other words, is "this guy" worth Espo/Cherepanov+ whatever pick we gave up?

I say hell no.
Sure we aren't physical, but a sure fire third liner isn't that hard to come by, on the other hand how often do you get a shot at a top 5 talent?
Top five talent? Who? Cherapanov or Esposito? Obvious neither or they would have been picked by a top five team........They're not even top ten talent for that matter.

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06-23-2007, 07:45 PM
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Does this mean goaltending next year? Our goaltenders are still fairly limited...

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06-23-2007, 09:35 PM
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Top five talent? Who? Cherapanov or Esposito? Obvious neither or they would have been picked by a top five team........They're not even top ten talent for that matter.
Solid reasoning.
Zetterberg must have ranked 210th on the talent back in 99.
Who are the top ten talent-wise from this draft? 1-10th picks?

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06-23-2007, 10:17 PM
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Is he a punishing defensive defenseman, or a positionally sound defensive defenseman??

And for those of you that are here that have watched the players we drafted, I thank you for stopping by to let us know your views on them. It is greatly appreciated.
Depending on the situation and opponent he can be punishing but for the most part he's been a positionally sound defensive defenseman. He'll stay in front of the net, move people around to clear a lane, lay down and block a shot, jump over people, and just be all pushy.

He's improved alot this past season from when he first arrived from Calgary. He just going to get better.

It will be my pleasure to give you guys updates this next season.

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06-26-2007, 02:40 AM
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I don't really know how to rate this draft. We had very few picks and we picked guys with size and again, guys we probably aren't going to sign, unless they do something spectaculor in the CHL. Almond and whoever we took in the 7th...

I don't know much about the defensemen either but it seems like another typical Minnesota draft.

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08-02-2007, 05:38 PM
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Top five talent? Who? Cherapanov or Esposito? Obvious neither or they would have been picked by a top five team........They're not even top ten talent for that matter.
Valid. But I'd rather swing for the fences with one of those guys than trade an extra pick for a guy nobody talked about until the Wild said his name.

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