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04-11-2007, 06:01 AM
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Ratings for Saturday's Game on RDS

1.5 million on average and a peak of 1.9 million people watching

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04-11-2007, 06:05 AM
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1.5 million on average and a peak of 1.9 million people watching
Are you sure it's people watching or TVs open on this channel? How can they know how many persons watch the open TV and how can they know if the connection is split at that home where the signal is sent and many people are watching different TVs with the same cable source? I never got those things.

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04-11-2007, 06:06 AM
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Are you sure it's people watching or TVs open on this channel? How can they know how many persons watch the open TV and how can they know if the connection is split at that home where the signal is sent and many people are watching different TVs with the same cable source? I never got those things.
It's mostly just a guess.

Sort of like how you always hear that 20 billion people watch the superbowl. Then it's alwawys reevaluated downwards to 790 million people a few months later.

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I think this is all stats work, they make an average of how many people watch a habs game right now by TV and put a number on the board.

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they're from Cossette Media, they do all the work for regular TV

to give you an idea 1.5-2 million is the same as Tout le Monde en Parle

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they're from Cossette Media, they do all the work for regular TV

to give you an idea 1.5-2 million is the same as Tout le Monde en Parle
What the hell is that show?

Yes I've been under a rock.

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I believe it's based on ratings boxes, which send a feed back to the cable company and tell it which channel they're watching. Random people are asked if they'd like to have one but they represent a certain demographic. Then they multiply the numbers of people watching to what they estimate would be the number of people watching that timeslot.

I could be wrong though.

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I believe it's based on ratings boxes, which send a feed back to the cable company and tell it which channel they're watching. Random people are asked if they'd like to have one but they represent a certain demographic. Then they multiply the numbers of people watching to what they estimate would be the number of people watching that timeslot.

I could be wrong though.
Something like that.

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But there's no actual way for a cable company to know how many households watch their feeds. It's far from an exact science.

This is where the "Leafs get the highest ratings" argument doesn't sit well with me. Television ratings are based on demographics, as mentioned, but where does hockey team allegiance fit in? It's all left to chance. For all we know, 70% of people outside of Quebec that have ratings devices could be die-hard Leaf fans. We don't know, we'll never know.

PS: don't worry guys, they don't know when you watch dirty movies.

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I'd have to guess that around 90% of households in the Province of Québec had at least one TV on RDS at some point during the game..

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Reminds me of an episode of Night Court where Harry tries a couple that had a fight because of their Nielson's box. When Harry learned they were the ones responsible for cancelling the Jetson's he went ballistic.

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I'd have to guess that around 90% of households in the Province of Québec had at least one TV on RDS at some point during the game..
Probably doesn't work that way. You never have 90% of a population doing any one thing at the same time. 5% alone were probably working a night shift. I'd say 90% is around the number for the Canada-Russia summit, and we'll never see that again because people's interests and lifestyles have shifted over the decades.

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Probably doesn't work that way. You never have 90% of a population doing any one thing at the same time. 5% alone were probably working a night shift. I'd say 90% is around the number for the Canada-Russia summit, and we'll never see that again because people's interests and lifestyles have shifted over the decades.
I did say households though, not people. If that guy that works night shift lives with his brother for exemple, it's quite possible his brother was watching the game at some point.

90% might be pushing a bit, but I'd say it isn't that far off. Talk to anyone at your work, school, favourite restaurant, club, your friends, etc and try to find out someone who didn't watch at least a couple of minutes of the game.. Gonna be hard man..

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I'd have to guess that around 90% of households in the Province of Québec had at least one TV on RDS at some point during the game..
you do know that there are many people in Quebec who don't care about hockey?

at my job, there are many people who didn't watch it. ladies, particularly. It's not everybody who likes hockey. Heck, even my parents didn't watch it.

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I did say households though, not people. If that guy that works night shift lives with his brother for exemple, it's quite possible his brother was watching the game at some point.

90% might be pushing a bit, but I'd say it isn't that far off. Talk to anyone at your work, school, favourite restaurant, club, your friends, etc and try to find out someone who didn't watch at least a couple of minutes of the game.. Gonna be hard man..
Yeah but that's where the ratings do tell something. If it's 30% viewership (which in TV is HUGE) that means it's very improbable 90% of televisions were watching anything at all, let alone the Habs.

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Ratings are generated using Nielsen boxes, and then extrapolated for a population. At least that's how it works for analog signals. With digital signals the cable stations can actually determine what each reciever is watching.

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what about me and 8 friends all listening to someone's house... that would mean 8 households with tv closed, while 8-9 guy is listening from a single feed...

how do they take that in count ?

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I dont believe thats true at all.

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what about me and 8 friends all listening to someone's house... that would mean 8 households with tv closed, while 8-9 guy is listening from a single feed...

how do they take that in count ?
They don't, which is why they use the term households. There's no way anyone quoted "1.5 million people".

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I dont believe thats true at all.
Why not?

It's just an evaluation, it's not an exact figure. They say "around 1.5 million". I believe they have boxes that tell what channel is on in some houses and they extrapolate that data to the whole population. They're not actually counting everyone. If they did, they wouldn't say "around 1.5 million", they would say 1 743 994 people watched the game.

If they are saying between 1.5 million, then it's somewhere near 1.5 million. It's not exactly a precise estimation, it's only to give people an idea. Why would you not believe that?

EDIT: I misread the original thing and changed some stuff.

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Nice number. Probably high, but these things usually are. I still can't believe that game ended up meaning nothing in the large scheme of things.

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what about me and 8 friends all listening to someone's house... that would mean 8 households with tv closed, while 8-9 guy is listening from a single feed...

how do they take that in count ?
I think they also do a survey

I wish RDS could know that I'm watching the hockey without sound..

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I think they also do a survey

I wish RDS could know that I'm watching the hockey without sound..
lol, nice. Like watching a Spears/Aguilera music video.

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lol, nice. Like watching a Spears/Aguilera music video.
I like hearing their moans, personally.

Pretty good numbers considering only about 1.75 million peaked during the shootout of the Isles/Devils and that game was available to the entire country via standard cable services and consequently the entire country was presumably interested in it.

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Probably doesn't work that way. You never have 90% of a population doing any one thing at the same time. 5% alone were probably working a night shift. I'd say 90% is around the number for the Canada-Russia summit, and we'll never see that again because people's interests and lifestyles have shifted over the decades.
90%!?!?!? I would dare to say that only about 60% of quebec cares even a bit about the habs, and only 30% watched.

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