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04-12-2007, 12:56 PM
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OT - Who would you choose?

To build a team :

-Tomas Vanek

or

-Alexander Semin

Just curious...

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vanek in a heart beat

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probably Vanek.

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Semin, but both would be great to have.

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Vanek, very very close

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Semin. For me, it's not even close.

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Everyone in the Sabres organisation seems to have been (can i say that?) Surprised when he came for the preseason camp.

I heard he worked very very hard this summer to became a better player...wich he is...

So for the will to be better and his dedication for hockey...plus his talent...I'll go with Vanek as well.

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Vanek, he's been more impressive for me. Mind you, he could also be a product of his environment.

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probably Vanek.
Really? For me it's Semin, and not even close.

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04-12-2007, 01:59 PM
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Semin. Mind you, I'd start building my team at centre, defense and in goal before I start looking at wingers.

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Thanks guys...I checked and they are both the same age and nearly the same weight. Talent Wise, I think Semin is better but the problem with him is (from what I hear) his attitude. I just don't know him as a player but for a strange reason, I feel he would be less consistent than Vanek...But it's also true that Vanek has a better deam to develop his talent...arrgg!

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I'd think I'd go with Vanek.

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Semin. For me, it's not even close.

Please explain how it's "not even close."

Vanek had 11 more points than Semin, and 5 more goals this season.

Sure, you could say that Semin has more natural talent, but in a case like this how could you possibly say that it's not even close.

I respect your opinion and I understand that you'd prefer Semin (alot of people would) but I hate it when people say it's not even close in a situation like this.

If we were comparing natural goal scoring ability with Dany Heatley and P.J. Axelsson..then you could say "it's not even close." But in this case..it just sounds stupid.

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Please explain how it's "not even close."

Vanek had 11 more points than Semin, and 5 more goals this season.

Sure, you could say that Semin has more natural talent, but in a case like this how could you possibly say that it's not even close.

I respect your opinion and I understand that you'd prefer Semin (alot of people would) but I hate it when people say it's not even close in a situation like this.

If we were comparing natural goal scoring ability with Dany Heatley and P.J. Axelsson..then you could say "it's not even close." But in this case..it just sounds stupid.
I think the "For me" part denotes an opinion.

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I think the "For me" part denotes an opinion.
well, of course it's an opinion. I guess I didn't really see it that way. I just took it in the way that he meant "I'd take Semin and it's not even close"

But still I think it's stupid to say it's not even close. I guess we could just say I quoted "RedScull" then, he said "Semin, and it's not even close"

He also said "for me" though. I guess it all comes down to personal opinion, I just think it's stupid to say that it's not even close in a situation like this.

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I've followed Vanek in college before he was drafted. I really, really like him. He's huge for a scorer, thick body, amazing shot and underrated hockey sense. It's difficult to stop him physically. He's always reminded me of Miro Satan as far as skillset. Vanek is playing great but there's no way to ignore the talent around him. Vanek has been very enthusiastic in his young career and showed the killer instinct. He also gets better when the stakes are high.

I didn't have the privilege to see young Semin like that but he has impressed me a lot in the NHL, just like Vanek. Washington is really a pitiful roster and have very little in the way of system (probably due to the lack of general talent to execute any). Semin is extremely explosive, his stickhandling is up there with the best and it seems like the puck is tied to his stick sometimes. His skating is out of this world and once he's got the puck along the board, he works his magic and find lanes like the best of them. He's elite in that respect. There are just a handful of players who can think offense like this guy and Vanek isn't one of them.

They're both awesome. I've been really impressed with both but they are in totally different situations. In Buffalo, you can't focus exclusively on Vanek when his line is out. In Washington, two men are often assigned to Semin.

The stats are not going to give the story here. They're both awesome but it's too early to declare a clear winner. At this point, I'd choose Semin.

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My question is when will the Habs get a few players such as Vanek or Semin? Are the Kostitsyns it?

BTW, I would choose Vanek by a hair but I would love to have both on my team.

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Vanek... i'd take a guy who actually knows what the defensive end of the rink looks like. Lindy Ruff has done wonders with Vanek.

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I'd go Vanek. Superior fundamentals and he can excel in the spotlight or in a more supportive role (as he's doing now). I like that in a player over the flash and dash.

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Vanek, size is the main factor, but both are awesome

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Vanek... i'd take a guy who actually knows what the defensive end of the rink looks like. Lindy Ruff has done wonders with Vanek.
Vanek is only slightly better defensively than Semin.

No wonders have been done by Ruff in that respect. Vanek's two-way game has not changed much from his college days. He's just on track.

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I go with Vanek but my wife says Semin.......

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