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04-15-2007, 11:49 AM
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Lundqvist vs. DiPietro

Just thought I'd throw this out here: don't recall a thread about it.
Goalie discussions always seem to focus on Brodeur.
But what about DiPietro?
In a comparison between Lundqvist and DiPietro:
Who is a better goalie now?
Who will be a better goalie in 5 years?
When their careers are done, who will be thought of as a better goalie (assuming both stay healthy)?

As a Ranger fan, I know how I feel. How about you? Any impartial fans out there?

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04-15-2007, 11:57 AM
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There have been three or four threads on this very topic. Search.

Lundqvist vs. Dipietro
Lundqvist vs. Dipietro (Poll)
Lundqvist vs. Dipietro (Poll) II

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04-15-2007, 12:06 PM
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Only time will tell in the longrun, Lundy came in & set the world on fire early, Dipietro felt his way around the leauge b4 he really came into his own.

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Both are the same age, Lundqvist just turned 25 and Dipietro turns 26 in September. Assuming both stay healthy it should be interesting to see how they fare over the next 5 or 10 years.

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In terms of simply stopping pucks, you need to give the edge to Lundqvist. I mean, the guy not only uses his size extremely well, but he also has very good reflexes and can make those huge saves that puts him well ahead of other butterfly goalies, like Tim Thomas.

DiPietro on the other hand brings other things to the table in addition to very good puck stopping (I would honestly put him a little below Lundqvist ). His stickhandling and passing is second only to Brodeur. He ignites the Islanders offense and is a huge part of the powerplay. His passing gives us many oddman rushes and he doesn't really make mistakes in his handling anymore.

Comparing the two is sort of like Brodeur vs. Roy. DiPietro is Brodeur, Lundqvist is Roy. I would but DiPietro ever so slightly ahead, but not because of his ability to stop pucks. Either way, both teams have great goaltenders for years to come.

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If Lundqvist did not exist, or we didn't draft him, I think most Ranger fans would not complain if Dipietro was our netminder. I for one would not.

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Henk vs. DP

I like Henk better for us, I think he is pretty much lights out. Henk stops pucks and moves around the net better. DP is athletic and a good netminder, he has grown in the league and will make the Ranger- Fishie rivalry better. Jmho

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04-15-2007, 01:43 PM
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I think they are about even. DP has to make more spectacular saves every game because of the Isles smurfs on defense but Lundy has been spectacular the second half of the season, and you can't blame him because his team is better defensively. They are both top 8 goalies in the NHL. I put them behind only:

Brodeur
Luongo
Hasek
Kiprusoff

And perhaps even with guys like:

Nabokov
Giguere

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A little hard to compare, both are great. I'll still go with Lundqvist though because he was amazing as soon as he came here whereas it took Dipietro a few years to adjust and improve. I also think Lundqvist will be better in the future

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A little hard to compare, both are great. I'll still go with Lundqvist though because he was amazing as soon as he came here whereas it took Dipietro a few years to adjust and improve. I also think Lundqvist will be better in the future
Lets just say we didnt rush Lundy like the fishies did with dipi.

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Lets just say we didnt rush Lundy like the fishies did with dipi.
Lundquist wasn't nearly as highly touted though. It's a completely different situation. Lundy was a 7th round pick. You can't even compare them in that way.

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Lundquist wasn't nearly as highly touted though. It's a completely different situation. Lundy was a 7th round pick. You can't even compare them in that way.
why not/ how old was dipi when he first saw nhl ice?

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why not/ how old was dipi when he first saw nhl ice?
Undoubtedly he was rushed. I'm not denying that. But the islanders team was misrable in 2000-2001. The Rangers were better than the islanders and were developing a different goalie phenom named Dan Blackburn at the time. So there was not even an option to bring up Lundy. Plus, their place in the draft (1st v. 7th round) shows that DP was a much much better goalie at the time they were drafted. DP was more NHL ready than Lundy at that point. I don't know what your trying to prove here other than to just take a cheap shot at isles management.

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both are great goalies, but the slight edge to lundqvist i.m.o, because you know he can handle pressure (sel playoff experience and olympic gold).

i would rate dp above with stick skills, yes, but i give lundqvist the edge with positioning. really i think he is close to tops with his positioning.

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Undoubtedly he was rushed. I'm not denying that. But the islanders team was misrable in 2000-2001. The Rangers were better than the islanders and were developing a different goalie phenom named Dan Blackburn at the time. So there was not even an option to bring up Lundy. Plus, their place in the draft (1st v. 7th round) shows that DP was a much much better goalie at the time they were drafted. DP was more NHL ready than Lundy at that point. I don't know what your trying to prove here other than to just take a cheap shot at isles management.
i don't know if it is more of dp being a better goalie, or lundqvist being unknown and under rated.

and trust me, only fichaud was more rushed than dan blackburn in comparison.

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both are great goalies, but the slight edge to lundqvist i.m.o, because you know he can handle pressure (sel playoff experience and olympic gold).

i would rate dp above with stick skills, yes, but i give lundqvist the edge with positioning. really i think he is close to tops with his positioning.
That signature. Who's quote is that?

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I don't think Lundqvist would have been as stellar if he moved to NHL sooner than he did, but he certainly wouldn't have made a fool out of himself.

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i don't know if it is more of dp being a better goalie, or lundqvist being unknown and under rated.
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Cmon dude. These teams have scouts all over the world. You think that every single team's scouts just missed Lundy on their trips to Sweden? They obviously saw him and watched hours and hours of games he played in. If you think the draft position had to do with Lundquist being "unknown" i think your crazy.

At this point the skill set is similar though, which is all that matters.

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I don't think Lundqvist would have been as stellar if he moved to NHL sooner than he did, but he certainly wouldn't have made a fool out of himself.
I hope you are not trying to say that DP made a fool out of himself.

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I hope you are not trying to say that DP made a fool out of himself.
Certainly not, I'm only talking about Lundqvist's and his SEL career. He was stellar in SEL as well.

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Certainly not, I'm only talking about Lundqvist's and his SEL career. He was stellar in SEL as well.
I figured that. I didnt know how to write that to make you think I wasn't trying to start an argument.

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Right now, all we can say is they are 2 very excellent goaltenders, with potential for greatness at the NHL level. Wether they fulfill all that potential remains to be seen, but they seem to be headed in the right direction. Honestly, As a Ranger fan, if DiPi was our goaltender, I think we would still be where we are right now, they are that close in ability. Lets see 4-5 years from now where they stand. I think we'll be comparing them to Luongo by then as top 5 guys in the league.

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I have always liked DP, but i feel Lundqvist just edges him slightly in consistancy but i would take DP as my goalie no problem

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Sadly the best of the three may wind up being Montoya, and he will have to be moved soon, as Henrik deserves to stay for a long long time

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Sadly the best of the three may wind up being Montoya, and he will have to be moved soon, as Henrik deserves to stay for a long long time
He doesn't have to be moved soon. He can spend another year in Hartford, and then back up Henrik for a year. They can certainly keep him in the organization another 2, possibly even 3 years. He really won't have to be moved until the summer of '09 at the earliest. Obviously if they got a great package for him before then they could certainly deal him earlier, but for now there's no reason not to keep him around while his stock rises. If he proves to be better than Henrik then you deal the King instead.

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