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04-16-2007, 08:47 AM
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What is the scouting report on Couture? Is he kind of soft? Only 24 penalty minutes this year

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What is the scouting report on Couture? Is he kind of soft? Only 24 penalty minutes this year

Nope. His defensive positioning is very good so he doesn't have to take any restraining fouls and he doesn't take needless penalties.

To boot, he had mono and a knee injury this year.

Compare Couture's penalty minutes in his first two years of junior to Steve Yzerman's.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php3?pid=5844

It was a learning process for Yzerman, not too many peole would say he was soft. Couture's the same kind of player, though his offence won't be as good as Yzerman's, his defence will be better.

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Couture is SO good.

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He is anything but soft or a perimeter player. He understands the game very well. He should be a top 5 selection.

His only weakness is his skating. Not that it is bad but he doesn't have the extra gear. It will not keep him out of the NHL though.

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his skating reminds me of crosby- good but not great. strong on his skates.

havent seen too much of him- would that be a fair assesment?

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What do you guys think is Couture's offensive upside once he is in his prime?

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I've always had a problem with using PIMs as a way to tell if a player is soft. I mean, the guy could simply be taking stupid penalties while another player, who is much tougher, would play a clean tough game and get less PIMs.

Just compare those two players:

Season GP G A P +/- PIM
2006-2007 70 39 55 94 12 40
2006-2007 81 22 53 75 -21 74

The first one is Jarome Iginla who is usually considered a tough player. The second one is Saku Koivu. Not that big of a difference, but I think it's enough to prove that PIM should not be used to judge toughness.

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I have seen Couture a few times this year.

Overall solid player, very strong on his feet, I would not compare him to Crosby, not as fast.

Sees the ice well and passes well.

Not tough or gritty. Stays out of the scrums and goes not go hard to the net.

Has a decent shot.

The knock I would puy on him is that he whines a lot and seems to loose interest if things are noy going his way.

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I have seen Couture a few times this year.

Overall solid player, very strong on his feet, I would not compare him to Crosby, not as fast.

Sees the ice well and passes well.

Not tough or gritty. Stays out of the scrums and goes not go hard to the net.

Has a decent shot.

The knock I would puy on him is that he whines a lot and seems to loose interest if things are noy going his way.
i have a different opinion then you on this. i think he is a pretty tough player. he is not afraid of body contact and i think he goes hard to the net. i see him as one of those guys who will play in the NHL no matter what. if doesnt become a top 6 scorer he will be a very usefull 3/4 liner.

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I have seen Couture a few times this year.

Overall solid player, very strong on his feet, I would not compare him to Crosby, not as fast.

Sees the ice well and passes well.

Not tough or gritty. Stays out of the scrums and goes not go hard to the net.

Has a decent shot.

The knock I would puy on him is that he whines a lot and seems to loose interest if things are noy going his way.
There is a big difference between (1) players who are very self-disciplined & intelligent enough to know that they will never score from the penalty box; and (2) players who aren't smart enough to grasp the foregoing concept. Couture is definitely the former.

I really doubt that SeasonTicket knows exactly what he is talking about, as I have never seen Couture whine about anything on or off the ice, ever. If anything, he is far too quiet IMO. And I have watched him a lot over the past few years.

Brian Kilrea has spoken extremely glowingly of him to the press many times the past couple of seasons and if anyone knows Killer, he despises whiners or excuse-makers on his team.

Here is a link to an interesting aside below. "Whiners" would NEVER get this type of recognition from the league's coaches:
He was second to Tom Pyatt in voting for this award....

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/news/?sub=&id=3532

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I've always had a problem with using PIMs as a way to tell if a player is soft. I mean, the guy could simply be taking stupid penalties while another player, who is much tougher, would play a clean tough game and get less PIMs.

Just compare those two players:

Season GP G A P +/- PIM
2006-2007 70 39 55 94 12 40
2006-2007 81 22 53 75 -21 74

The first one is Jarome Iginla who is usually considered a tough player. The second one is Saku Koivu. Not that big of a difference, but I think it's enough to prove that PIM should not be used to judge toughness.
i couldnt agree more...take an another guy like jan hrdina: the guy was a puss but took so many penalties like hooking or slashing but on the scoresheet it doesnt say that. it just says how much time they got. fewer PIMs just means they are smart

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he threw some big hits today.

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I've always had a problem with using PIMs as a way to tell if a player is soft. I mean, the guy could simply be taking stupid penalties while another player, who is much tougher, would play a clean tough game and get less PIMs.

Just compare those two players:

Season GP G A P +/- PIM
2006-2007 70 39 55 94 12 40
2006-2007 81 22 53 75 -21 74

The first one is Jarome Iginla who is usually considered a tough player. The second one is Saku Koivu. Not that big of a difference, but I think it's enough to prove that PIM should not be used to judge toughness.

Besides, no matter what stats say, Iginla, as opposed to Koivu, can not claim to be God !

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Will Couture slide out of the top 10 because of his U18 tourny?

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no way in hell will he slip out.

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