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12-17-2003, 07:06 AM
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Is it time for Ruff to go...

I have been a Ruff apologist for a long time. But, it seems to me that this team is suffering from a crisis of confidence right now and really, has been for some time. There are too many quality offensive players for this team to be having this tough of a time scoring. I see real inequity when players like Afinogenov and McKee get sat and players like Curtis Brown, virtual non-factors get a free ride.

I blame Ruff and no one else for the debacle in goal(well, i do blame the goalies for not playing better, but that is a side effect of poor management).

I think he has lost this team, lost the fans and this town is going to lose interest.

Time for Lindy to go.

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It's probably time but it's not gonna happen. That decision was made 6 months ago.

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12-17-2003, 08:21 AM
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It's probably time but it's not gonna happen. That decision was made 6 months ago.
Ditto.

Although, who knows what Golisano will do now that he's come out and hinted that he's not happy with the way the Satan signing has worked out......

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12-17-2003, 08:24 AM
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Ditto.

Although, who knows what Golisano will do now that he's come out and hinted that he's not happy with the way the Satan signing has worked out......

I can't speak for Golisano but he seems like the kind of guy that could blow this all up and say "I'm sorry, I didn't make the right decision, it won't happen again." As long as Quinn goes too I'm perfectly fine with that.


Personally, I think Regier's contract situation mitigated a lot of this. They probably didn't want to swallow the rest of his deal and figured if Regier's coming back, Ruff should too. It's a shame, cost the Sabres a chance to go after Bob Gainey.

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It's a shame, cost the Sabres a chance to go after Bob Gainey.
I doubt there was any chance of the Sabres landing Gainey once Montreal showed interest.

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It's past time for Lindy to go, but he won't because they won't pay another coach before the lockout.

At one time he was the best coach for this team, but that time is past. Every coach has a shelf life, and eventually the players stop listening. His methods also don't lend much to the development of young players. Sticking someone in the "doghouse" and forgetting them is a good way to ruin someone's confidence.

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It's past time for Lindy to go, but he won't because they won't pay another coach before the lockout.

At one time he was the best coach for this team, but that time is past. Every coach has a shelf life, and eventually the players stop listening. His methods also don't lend much to the development of young players. Sticking someone in the "doghouse" and forgetting them is a good way to ruin someone's confidence.
Any suggestions as to who should be the next coach? As long as it isn't Cunneyworth from the AHL team. The way the Sabres work things as of late, they'll probably promote goalie coach Jim Corsi.

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It's past time for Lindy to go, but he won't because they won't pay another coach before the lockout.

At one time he was the best coach for this team, but that time is past. Every coach has a shelf life, and eventually the players stop listening. His methods also don't lend much to the development of young players. Sticking someone in the "doghouse" and forgetting them is a good way to ruin someone's confidence.
Who has he forgotten about? His methods developed Satan, Dumont, McKee, Brown and Grosek.

It seems like the pressbox / 4th line treatment got Dumont and Afinogenov playing very well.

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Any suggestions as to who should be the next coach? As long as it isn't Cunneyworth from the AHL team. The way the Sabres work things as of late, they'll probably promote goalie coach Jim Corsi.

I've thought about that and honestly can't come up with a name, especially now that Laviolette is in Carolina. I don't want it to be someone in-house. McCutcheon and Arniel don't seem to have the ability and I've never thought much of Cunneyworth as a coach. Houda? Ideally it would be either Mike Ramsey or Craig Ramsay but I guess neither are going to be let out of their contracts. Alain Vigneault maybe?


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I doubt there was any chance of the Sabres landing Gainey once Montreal showed interest.

It would have been nice to try.

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12-17-2003, 10:37 AM
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How about Jim Playfair?

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How about Jim Playfair?

That is pretty interesting but lets hope Larry doesn't get a promotion.

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No one with any connection to the Buffalo Sabres.....

nobody who ever stepped foot in Eerie County.


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its time.. and i agree i dont want any ex-sabres as a new coach

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its time.. and i agree i dont want any ex-sabres as a new coach
I'd consider Mike Ramsey.

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I'd consider Mike Ramsey.
true.. forgot about Mike, but i doubt he'd wanna come back here

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I'd consider Mike Ramsey.

Not me, I want a guy that has had the job and has some credentials.


Craig Ramsay.

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Let's go with rotating coaches and draw the name of a season ticket holder out of a hat every month. If someone does well they can stay until they flop. :p

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The best candidate who is available is......Brent Peterson.

Very successful WHL coach (2 Memorial cups). Several years of experience with Nashville.

***********Promotes an offensive style ************

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I still like Mike Robitaille for the job, heh.

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Donny Lever.

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Tim Connolly...maybe the fuzzy head would help.

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Let's be serious though, IF Lindy Ruff were axed this year there are only two or three guys that would be considered:

Brian McCutcheon, Randy Cunneyworth, and maybe Scott Arniel or Darcy Regier.

I can't see this team firing Ruff after he got the 3 year extension and then going out and giving a long term deal to an outsider to replace him.

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Let's be serious though, IF Lindy Ruff were axed this year there are only two or three guys that would be considered:

Brian McCutcheon, Randy Cunneyworth, and maybe Scott Arniel or Darcy Regier.

I can't see this team firing Ruff after he got the 3 year extension and then going out and giving a long term deal to an outsider to replace him.
That would not be much of an improvement. It seems that even though we have changed head coaches, we have always kept the assistants. It's time for a complete house cleaning. If a former Sabre is the only option though, what about Van Boxmeer? I haven't heard much about him lately, but he seemed to be doing a decent job in the IHL and WCHL. But, I'd still rather not have a former Sabre... again...

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That would not be much of an improvement. It seems that even though we have changed head coaches, we have always kept the assistants. It's time for a complete house cleaning. If a former Sabre is the only option though, what about Van Boxmeer? I haven't heard much about him lately, but he seemed to be doing a decent job in the IHL and WCHL. But, I'd still rather not have a former Sabre... again...
I completely agree.

I just don't see the Sabres commiting the long term contract neccessary to bring in an outsider after they gave Ruff the 3 year extension in the offseason.

I hope I'm wrong and that things will be different under Golisano.

But everything I've seen thusfar has been the Same Old Sabres.

And until that changes, I see no reason to expect things like firing Ruff or Regier and bringing in qualified outsiders to go forward.

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