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[Chainshot]

Originally Posted by SabresRule

yeh, true we get rid of a few parts, but:

Kalinen works 1 in 5 games. thats pathetic.

Your point is debateable and purely subjective. In his last 8 games, he's picked up 4 points and is a +1. And that's in a span where they've been outscored 28 to 14.

Originally Posted by SabresRule

Max isnt gonna score. his just a fast waste space. maybe if we ship him off to the panthers he might do something.

I'd rather see him buzzing around in Buffalo producing nearly as much as Huselius has as a Panther.

Originally Posted by SabresRule

Pyatt sucks. big time. he doesnt score and he wont goto the net. we can get morrow and shuffle a little salary over there, and get morrow and matvichuk if the deals sweet. we need size anyway.

Again, you're painting players with a subjective brush. Again. Pyatt, at 22, continues to improve. Let me know when players drop ready-made into the NHL, until that time investment in time is the only way to bring them along.

And they can get Morrow for what? Is Regier going to ambush Armstrong and hold him hostage, demanding a ransom that the Stars pay up with Morrow and Matvichuk (and their $3.6 million in combined salary)?

Originally Posted by SabresRule

Jokinen is a All star, he broke out last year and may just be going through a bad patch, know modano's current pathetic stats..

So you draw comparison to Jokinen's 1 30 goals season to Modano and his 13 20+ goal seasons. Mike has credentials. Jokinen continues to have promise. I'd rather see the team stick with some of the players they've been developing than go out and take a dip for someone who has slumbered his way out of two cities. Call me jaded, but the Sabres have been down this road before with a big, occassionally effective center making $2 million per, base.

Originally Posted by SabresRule

i dont know van ryn, buthe seems good, so im up for getting him.

And he's currently leading the Panthers D in icetime. Eventually it would seem likely he'll be their #3 behind Bouwmeester and Krajicek or perhaps their #4 if Novak performs to expectations. He'd be a solid acquisition if the Sabres paid the price to land him. However, considering the disarray of the Sabres D, subtracting one of the very few working components from it (Kalinin) to add something different to it smacks of taking lateral steps at best.

Originally Posted by SabresRule

that way we trim our roster,get a couple of available players who look half decent and get rid of a couple of dead wieghts, tho kalinen might be a little high, maybe Tallinder or Delmore/Campbell.

And you think teams are going to fall all over themselves trying to pluck "deadweights" like Delmore and Campbell off the Sabres roster? I don't think so and if you do, just think about it for a minute. They are one of the worst teams in the NHL for a second straight season and their spare parts at the NHL level will have minimal market value at this time. Perhaps a team may become enamored with one or the other, at which time the return might tempt Regier into moving from his perch, but that return looks like it may be a mid-round draft pick or inclusion as a saccharine sweetner to another deal. Judicious roster management is crucial but hurling a significant portion of the Sabres future out the door for the sake of shuffling some deckchairs makes no sense what so ever.

[PotiFan107]

i think you are all under-rating Huselius.. ive seen a good handful of his games and he has a talented player.. he is rather soft.. and is scared of heavy traffic.. but has definate 30+ goal potential. Hes only had 2 seasons in the NHL and both 20+ goal seasons.. So hes struggling right now..? He has much potential and i KNOW he will rebound..

As for Pyatt.. he does have alot of potential and would be more useful in a Panthers uniform than Huselius right now.. Buffalo doesnt necissarily need Huselius but he would be a nice addition forsure.. As much as I like Huselius.. i Think Pyatt is a better suit for Buffalo..

I just wish the Panthers could snatch Briere off them sabres

[Takeo]

Originally Posted by jeffshaf

we already have enought centers we wouldn't need Brown I consider Cullen to be like Brown. I known this seems farfetched but anyway we could get Dmitri Kalinin because Van Ryn is our #2 defenseman

CuBro also plays LW. But if you're not interested in him, I'd upgrade to Afinogenov. I don't think Kalinin is available as he's penciled in to ultimately replace Z as the #1. How bout Tallinder + Afinogenov for Van Ryn, 3rd + 5th? That's about as far as I'd go. Just a thought.

[SabresRule]

Originally Posted by Chainshot

Your point is debateable and purely subjective. In his last 8 games, he's picked up 4 points and is a +1. And that's in a span where they've been outscored 28 to 14.



I'd rather see him buzzing around in Buffalo producing nearly as much as Huselius has as a Panther.



Again, you're painting players with a subjective brush. Again. Pyatt, at 22, continues to improve. Let me know when players drop ready-made into the NHL, until that time investment in time is the only way to bring them along.

And they can get Morrow for what? Is Regier going to ambush Armstrong and hold him hostage, demanding a ransom that the Stars pay up with Morrow and Matvichuk (and their $3.6 million in combined salary)?



So you draw comparison to Jokinen's 1 30 goals season to Modano and his 13 20+ goal seasons. Mike has credentials. Jokinen continues to have promise. I'd rather see the team stick with some of the players they've been developing than go out and take a dip for someone who has slumbered his way out of two cities. Call me jaded, but the Sabres have been down this road before with a big, occassionally effective center making $2 million per, base.



And he's currently leading the Panthers D in icetime. Eventually it would seem likely he'll be their #3 behind Bouwmeester and Krajicek or perhaps their #4 if Novak performs to expectations. He'd be a solid acquisition if the Sabres paid the price to land him. However, considering the disarray of the Sabres D, subtracting one of the very few working components from it (Kalinin) to add something different to it smacks of taking lateral steps at best.



And you think teams are going to fall all over themselves trying to pluck "deadweights" like Delmore and Campbell off the Sabres roster? I don't think so and if you do, just think about it for a minute. They are one of the worst teams in the NHL for a second straight season and their spare parts at the NHL level will have minimal market value at this time. Perhaps a team may become enamored with one or the other, at which time the return might tempt Regier into moving from his perch, but that return looks like it may be a mid-round draft pick or inclusion as a saccharine sweetner to another deal. Judicious roster management is crucial but hurling a significant portion of the Sabres future out the door for the sake of shuffling some deckchairs makes no sense what so ever.

i definatly think Pyatt is a bust. true, players have to work to improve once their in the NHL, but at his rate his gonna retire before he reaches 1 20 goal season. it's a VERY unfunny joke. and Max shows no sign of controling his speed, just zooming around the ice showing occasional flashes of brilliance, maybe a change of scenery would help him reach his potential.

Jokinen i dont know, true, we've made mistakes before, but i think his still a previous all star, and 30+ goal scorer who played WELL in the all star game. maybe wait for a season to see if he performs without Iron Mike.

I take trading kalinen back, he might be valued to highly, and his still got the ability and potential for a no.1 on our blueline. but a few blueliners i WOULD consider getting rid of, no matter who 2:

Zhitnik
Delmore
Mckee

none of them are as pysical as they should be, part from delmore, who just sucks. get some hard hitting Dmen.

[Kruschiki]

Originally Posted by jumptheshark

Looks like I will be the jerk and point a few things out


1)Husalius has been a healthy scratch alot lately
2)To compare Pyatt to Husalius is to compare apples to oranges
---Husalius in a one dementional player--when it comes to his own zone and enless he starts to play his own zone---he better get used to the healthy scratch thing
---Pyatt is growing into a powerforward and give him a few years and he will be good. Pyatt may not get the puck into the goal as much as Husalius may--but he may already be a better all a round player and in this NHL--that is a much better thing to be sometimes.
3)Buffalo has a gone like Husalius called Satan--they are trying to move him for several reasons--besides salery--- he also plays poorly in his own zone and is invisable on most nights.


kay-- start the hate

If Pyatt is ever going to be anything, he needs to get the heck out of buffalo. Ruff is doing what he does with every budding talent, take every offensive instinct out of them and teach them a "valuable" two-way game. If Pyatt stays in Buffalo, he'll never be anything more than checking winger.