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03-13-2007, 02:31 PM
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2007 Draft Order

NHL General Manager just voted in favour of the following draft order for 2007 selection. I was wondering if we are going to do the same:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199943&hubname=

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And if the groundhog sees his shadow on the same day as the start of a new lunar cycle, the teams that lose in the second round of the playoffs will draft in reverse alphabetical order...

Leave it to the NHL to make something simple so confoundingly stupid.

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NHL General Manager just voted in favour of the following draft order for 2007 selection. I was wondering if we are going to do the same:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199943&hubname=
I think the new draft method looks alot more complicated but it seems much more fair. We could always reduce the complexity by going with play-off record and forgetting all that blather about division and conference titles...

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03-13-2007, 04:25 PM
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I think the new draft method looks alot more complicated but it seems much more fair. We could always reduce the complexity by going with play-off record and forgetting all that blather about division and conference titles...
Like this?
  • 1-14: teams that miss the playoffs, in reverse order of regular season points (all ties resolved by wins, goals for)
  • 15-22: teams that are eliminated in Round 1, in reverse order of regular season points (ties etc...)
  • 23-26: Teams that are eliminated in Round 2, in reverse order etc.
  • 27-28: Teams that are eliminated in Round 3 etc, in reverse order etc.
  • 29: Stanley Cup Finalist
  • 30: Stanley Cup Winner

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Like this?
  • 1-14: teams that miss the playoffs, in reverse order of regular season points (all ties resolved by wins, goals for)
  • 15-22: teams that are eliminated in Round 1, in reverse order of regular season points (ties etc...)
  • 23-26: Teams that are eliminated in Round 2, in reverse order etc.
  • 27-28: Teams that are eliminated in Round 3 etc, in reverse order etc.
  • 29: Stanley Cup Finalist
  • 30: Stanley Cup Winner
Close but there's also modifiers in there for Divisional winners. If I have this right, even if a divisional winner goes out in the first round they get placed, based on inverse order of points, with teams that went out in the 2nd round.

Personally I don't care either way but I thought they tried something similar the year before the lockout (the only difference was there was no divisional seeding variable) and it was voted down in the Admin Team.

We did adopt the divisional seeding change last year but this is a bit overly complicated. What do you want to bet this is an experiment that quickly gets killed as soon as a few cinderella teams go far in the playoffs and President Trophy winners get taken out in the first round ;-)

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Actually this might work perfectly for me as I have Blues 1st rd pick in 2007 and based on the history they are expected to be eliminated in round 1.

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Actually this might work perfectly for me as I have Blues 1st rd pick in 2007 and based on the history they are expected to be eliminated in round 1.
A nice bit of HFNHL lore, but the Blues are actually the only team in the HFNHL that have NOT been eliminated in the first round over the last 4 years (requisite knock on wood), as they have been consistently in the elite 8.

Now round 2, that is another story where the team has gone 1-3 over that four year span...

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Yeah but quick. Name the team never to have even made it to the first round.





and.. maybe we're not the only one???

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carolina might be there....and I think Nashville haven't gotten there either. anyone else?

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Hmmm. Seems the article we were all discussing was incorrect.

See today's article explaining the mixup.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=200073&hubname=nhl

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03-14-2007, 06:17 PM
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Well i flipped through the standings in this history and this is what i found
updated at the conclusion of the 2006-2007 regular season

Teams that have never made the playoffs
Florida Panthers
Nashville Predators

Teams that have never missed the playoffs
Philadelphia Flyers
Ottawa Senators
San Jose Sharks
Detroit Red Wings


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Detroit Red Wings (Currently 2nd)
Credit to Drew for his years of careful talent and money management...

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I'm interested to bring this up again. It doesn't appear that any decision was made regarding the implementation of this by our league or not.

Has anyone made any decisions regarding this yet?

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No reason not to, now that we understand it.

In the words of a (somewhat sheepish) Mr. Bob MacKenzie:

"Here's all you need to know about the new rules for entry draft order of selection: The only change to the existing format is that the final four teams that make it to the Conference finals will get the final four picks in the draft, regardless of where they finished in the regular season.

The Cup champion will pick 30th, the Cup finalist 29th and the two losers from Conference championships will pick 28th and 27th. Whichever of those two teams finished lower in the regular season standings will get the 27th pick."

So our OFFICIAL 2007 Draft Order is as follows (1st round, subsequent rounds, team, points, wins, goals for):

2 1 LAK 51 20 180
3 2 NAS 56 21 210
4 3 NYI 59 26 217
1 4 FLA 61 24 249
5 5 ATL 63 29 242
6 6 CHI 68 29 243
7 7 MIN 70 31 233
8 8 MTL 70 34 232
9 9 WAS 71 31 245
10 10 NYR 73 31 228
11 11 PHX 81 37 220
12 12 EDM 84 36 278
13 13 CBJ 87 35 236
14 14 BOS 87 37 264
15 15 PIT 90 41 240
16 16 BUF 91 40 288
17 17 VAN 92 41 278
18 18 SJS 94 42 273
19 19 CGY 95 44 275
20 20 PHI 95 44 295
21 21 TOR 96 43 264
22 22 COL 97 46 272
23 23 ANA 102 45 258
24 24 CAR 105 47 258
25 25 NJD 108 50 299
26 26 STL 114 50 291
27 27 TAM 87 39 258
28 28 DET 112 53 270
29 29 DAL 102 47 269
30 30 OTT 90 39 246


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No reason not to, now that we understand it.

In the words of a (somewhat sheepish) Mr. Bob MacKenzie:

"Here's all you need to know about the new rules for entry draft order of selection: The only change to the existing format is that the final four teams that make it to the Conference finals will get the final four picks in the draft, regardless of where they finished in the regular season.

The Cup champion will pick 30th, the Cup finalist 29th and the two losers from Conference championships will pick 28th and 27th. Whichever of those two teams finished lower in the regular season standings will get the 27th pick."

So our 2007 draft order is as follows (1st round, subsequent rounds, team, points, wins, goals for):

2 1 LAK 51 20 180
3 2 NAS 56 21 210
4 3 NYI 59 26 217
1 4 FLA 61 24 249
5 5 ATL 63 29 242
6 6 CHI 68 29 243
7 7 MIN 70 31 233
8 8 MTL 70 34 232
9 9 WAS 71 31 245
10 10 NYR 73 31 228
11 11 PHX 81 37 220
12 12 EDM 84 36 278
13 13 CBJ 87 35 236
14 14 BOS 87 37 264

15 15 PIT 90 41 240
16 16 BUF 91 40 288
17 17 VAN 92 41 278
18 18 SJS 94 42 273
19 19 CGY 95 44 275
20 20 PHI 95 44 295
21 21 TOR 96 43 264
22 22 COL 97 46 272
23 23 ANA 102 45 258
24 24 CAR 105 47 258
25 25 NJD 108 50 299
26 26 STL 114 50 291

27 27 TAM 87 39 258
28 28 DET 112 53 270

29/30 29/30 OTT 90 39 246
29/30 29/30 DAL 102 47 269
so basically that means the second round will start out like this?

31 4 FLA 61 24 249
32 1 LAK 51 20 180
33 2 NAS 56 21 210
34 3 NYI 59 26 217
35 5 ATL 63 29 242
36 6 CHI 68 29 243
37 7 MIN 70 31 233
38 8 MTL 70 34 232
39 9 WAS 71 31 245
40 10 NYR 73 31 228

with florida moved back up to 31

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Before the season I was a bit worried that I would have traded a potential top 10 pick in draft 2007, now that pick is the 27th pick. Who could have thought that before the season?

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so basically that means the second round will start out like this?

31 4 FLA 61 24 249
32 1 LAK 51 20 180
33 2 NAS 56 21 210
34 3 NYI 59 26 217
35 5 ATL 63 29 242
36 6 CHI 68 29 243
37 7 MIN 70 31 233
38 8 MTL 70 34 232
39 9 WAS 71 31 245
40 10 NYR 73 31 228

with florida moved back up to 31
No...Florida is #1 in the first round, and #4 in every other round, so they will be #34.

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Before the season I was a bit worried that I would have traded a potential top 10 pick in draft 2007, now that pick is the 27th pick. Who could have thought that before the season?
Good Job Martin, I hope you don't repeat what you achieved this season for the next three seasons.

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Before the season I was a bit worried that I would have traded a potential top 10 pick in draft 2007, now that pick is the 27th pick. Who could have thought that before the season?
Not me, thats for sure. But congrats, Martin... I think we go as far back in FHL as ayone is this league. Remember the 3SFHL?

2006-07 -- The Islanders are going down. They dont stand a chance

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No...Florida is #1 in the first round, and #4 in every other round, so they will be #34.
ah ok

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Not me, thats for sure. But congrats, Martin... I think we go as far back in FHL as ayone is this league. Remember the 3SFHL?

2006-07 -- The Islanders are going down. They dont stand a chance
I dont remember 3SFHL, when was that league? I only recall a league called VIPHL or something like that, that league had a Brazilian GM called Antonio or something.

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I dont remember 3SFHL, when was that league? I only recall a league called VIPHL or something like that, that league had a Brazilian GM called Antonio or something.
Yeah Antonio was was the commissioner, but the league was the 3sfhl - 3 Stars Fantasy Hockey League. It was a league we were in the late 90's... i think I joined it around 97.

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Yeah Antonio was was the commissioner, but the league was the 3sfhl - 3 Stars Fantasy Hockey League. It was a league we were in the late 90's... i think I joined it around 97.
Wasnt Chan his last name? I wonder what happend to him or maybe I should say, what happend with all the people online that I spoke to in the late 90s?

I joined hfnhl back in 98 so I must have been in two leagues for a while.

What year did we have a minor league within hfnhl and why did it fell apart?

and finally, what did I get in return when I traded LeCavalier and Richards? Probably not enough

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The HFNHL was launched in 1998, first entry draft was summer 1999 (#17, Brett Lysak - and to make it worse, I was mad that Nick drafted Scott Kelman before I could!).

We had a brief flirtation with a minor-league set-up in 1999/2000- the HFAHL - with direct affiliation agreements and sharing of players. It just proved too logistically difficult to manage. Heck, we have trouble enough keeping up with the demands of one league, never mind running two that could exchange players!

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just for the hell of it....

Phoenix Coyotes 1st round pick history

1999 - (2nd Round) 36th Overall - Luca Cereda
Coyotes landed the biggest bomb in the maple leafs first round draft history in 99, Cereda is still a prospect with the team, but is expected to be released during the off-season.

2000 - 24th Overall - Brian Sutherby
Sutherby looks like a 2nd/3rd line player, he remained wtih the Coyotes untill halfway through this season where he was traded.

2001 - 23rd Overall - Roman Cechmanek
Was a solid goaltender for about 5 years, has since left for europe and is no longer in HFNHL.

2002 - 17th Overall - Martin Vagner
Vanger has never played in the HFNHL before and is no longer with the Coyotes organization.

2003 - (2nd Round) 49th Overall - Ryan Munce
In the most famous draft in recent history, the Coyotes had the lowest first pick in team history and used to to select goaltender Ryan Munce, Munce still remains a professional splitting time in the AHL and ECHL, he is still a prospect in the Coyotes system, and still has a shot at the NHL.

2004 - 10th Overall - Al Montoya
Coyotes selected still promising prospect Al Montoya, he was delt during this season in the deal in which they recieved goaltending prospect David LeNeveu, Montoya still has the talent to become a top goaltender.

2005 - 3rd Overall - Anze Kopitar
Coyotes highest pick in team history was used on a high risk high reward player Anze Kopitar, it turned into a big reward but the Coyotes delt him this season, in the deal in which they recieved Jiri Tlusty who was a first rounder the following year

2006 - 5th Overall - Phil Kessel
Coyotes drafted promising player Phil Kessel, who is expected to step in next season, Kessel could be considered a franchise player and is t he most identifyable player in the Coyotes organization.

2007 - ???
Phoenix has two first round picks for the second time in team history (2005). 11th Overall is not a bad place to draft out of but it will be their lowest pick since 2003. The only question is who will this year's top pick be. We will find out in 9 days
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