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05-18-2007, 12:46 AM
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Maybe it is harsh, but he is what he is. He is ultra talented but doesn't usually put it to use.

He hasn't been a point per game player since playing in Pittsburgh about 5 years ago. People must accept that those days are behind him. He was happy when he had no structure, when winning wasn't serious and he could just score points without worries of missing the playoffs.

He has a one great year in the NHL. He isn't a superstar and he isn't a star. He is a good player, not a game breaker and not someone you build an offense around.
Bingo! ONCE in his fourteen years in the NHL (yes, 14!) he had a "star" season, good for him, his statue will go in the "Thanks to Mario I had ONE great season in the NHL" hall next to the ones of Rob Brown (115 pts once), Warren Young, Doug Shedden, and a few others...

And until he retires or he's traded let the fans whine he can't do what he once did anymore...


Superstar ? Talented ? superstars gets points on the board even on an off night or when they're invisible the whole game...

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05-18-2007, 01:15 PM
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Bingo! ONCE in his fourteen years in the NHL (yes, 14!) he had a "star" season, good for him, his statue will go in the "Thanks to Mario I had ONE great season in the NHL" hall next to the ones of Rob Brown (115 pts once), Warren Young, Doug Shedden, and a few others...

And until he retires or he's traded let the fans whine he can't do what he once did anymore...


Superstar ? Talented ? superstars gets points on the board even on an off night or when they're invisible the whole game...
Agreed that he is not a superstar.. but the rest of your comment is false.

Yes, he did benifit from a great year playing with Lemieux or Jagr, but he proved it the year after that he could still be a 1ppg player without both of them. He was also a pretty good player during his early years as a New York Rangers. I know, he can be frustrating to watch at times but you still have to give this guy credit, he is definitely talented. Admit it or not, this guy can be a game-breaker when on his game.

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His Hands.....so So Sick!!!!!

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Kovalev with Koivu in 05-06... 65 pts in 69 games, why do people still look for the problem, BLAME PLEKANEC !

Nah but honestly, Kovalev and Plekanec were just uncompatible, that's just how it is. Carbo missed out on a great chance on trying Samsonov - Koivu - Kovalev for a couple games.

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I just want to point out that Kovalev hit about 10-12 posts last season.

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I just want to point out that Kovalev hit about 10-12 posts last season.
Per month.

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05-18-2007, 02:08 PM
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Agreed that he is not a superstar.. but the rest of your comment is false.

Yes, he did benifit from a great year playing with Lemieux or Jagr, but he proved it the year after that he could still be a 1ppg player without both of them. He was also a pretty good player during his early years as a New York Rangers. I know, he can be frustrating to watch at times but you still have to give this guy credit, he is definitely talented. Admit it or not, this guy can be a game-breaker when on his game.

http://<b>http://www.youtube.com/wat...ed&search=</b>
Like there's no difference between being good and being a star (or superstar).

Say what you will, but the guy broke the 70pts mark three times in 14 years (once every 4.75 years...), the 40 goals once and the 50 assists once also...




WOAH! half of the top ten is simple wrist shot most players can do, find a better vid if you wanna show how "star" he is...

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Nah but honestly, Kovalev and Plekanec were just uncompatible, that's just how it is. Carbo missed out on a great chance on trying Samsonov - Koivu - Kovalev for a couple games.
That is the truth. There is no doubt that if the head coach would have at least try it, the season could have been different.

Now, I still see were Kovy screwed up: he refused to get involved in the play. But you know how it goes with "star" players: You have to keep the talent happy. So by playing Kovy with players he probably didn't want to play with, it made him unhappy. Yes it is childish and can't be the attitude of a professionnal. But that's the way it is.

I think Kovalev has a special something: his hands. But is hockey sense isn't that good. It is what he lacks the most. Also, the guy obviously tries to hit the crossbar too much...

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05-18-2007, 02:33 PM
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Kovalev has the talent and ability to play alongside the best of the best - period.

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05-18-2007, 06:14 PM
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I just want to point out that Kovalev hit about 10-12 posts last season.
And? Guys hit the post all season, or just miss the net, or the goalie robs them.

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There is no doubt that Kovalev is the one of the most talented player and best stickhandler in the world. Howerver, being a great stickhandler doesn't result into a finisher or a great scorer. He has no heart and only shows up for the playoffs.

On the other hand, if he didn't hit so many posts this season, he would have scored at least 5 more goals and the habs would have probably made the playoffs.

Anyone noticed the amount of goals that he had from the faceoff circle last season? Did he score once from that spot this season?

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On the other hand, if he didn't hit so many posts this season, he would have scored at least 5 more goals and the habs would have probably made the playoffs.

Or he would have missed the net completely.

If Jan Bulis converted half the chances he got, he'd be a perennial 50 goal scorer, but if wishes were fishes......

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P.S. Yes I am comparing Kovalev to Gretzky
Wow! Whatever your avatar is smoking is really good stuff! Kovalev is a very selfish player: the team just has to revolve around HIM! Otherwise he goes in a corner and pouts...

This shows to me all the maturity of a spoiled child and none of the heart and soul of a player that truly understands what you need to win in hockey these days!

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I just want to point out that Kovalev hit about 10-12 posts last season.
Well were gonna be very lucky when the NHL starts adding points in the standings for posts being hit by a player.

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