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05-18-2007, 01:57 PM
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Gainey interested in making Barnaby, Peca Habs ? lull them away from retirement

So it goes ...

Mathew Barnaby and Mike Peca both had a 2006-7 season they'd rather forget.

Barnaby, limited to playing 39 games and plagued with PCS, it's not likely he would consider resuming his playing career ( although he has stated that if things look on the upside this summer, he'd go back to play )
About the same goes for Peca ...

I know Maranero has said there is an interest for these guys here, but I feel it would be a modern incarnation of Dackell and Juneau in a sense ... with more spunk ...

can these guys really bring anything we don't have ?

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Peca might be worth it if he comes really cheap but Barnaby is done.

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a healthy peca is an upgrade over bonk....i take him for the good price

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If Barnaby is a choice over Murray than give him $5 million at least

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Peca =maybe/yes


Barnaby= no thanks...trying to get rid of Murray, we don't need him. Plus he looks like Odelein and that is a face we have finally erased from our minds.

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Both guys have good experience..id take Peca depending on how much he'd ask..
And Barnaby was one of the best Pests on the league..he could help Lapierre a lot since Lapierre seems to be going in the same direction and become a pest

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5-10 years ago? Yes. Now? I wouldn't.

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I'd take Peca for under 2 million.

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Barnaby at $475k would be more experience than Ferland at the same price, and cheaper than Murray. If he'd sign for that much and play that role cheerfully, then I'd have no real problem with it.

As for Peca... something less than he made last year would certainly be required. If he was cheaper than Bonk and had a favourable medical exam, then I could accept signing him to replace Bonk. (But it would really have to be on contract terms more favourable than whatever Bonk asks for, that's the key. For example, if Bonk wants $2.5M per on a 3-yr deal (which I think is fair), then Peca would have to check in at $1.75M or thereabouts for a 1-yr deal).

Anyway, the Habs do need grit, character, and veteran leadership. I don't know that Barnaby and Peca would be the first names I'd choose in looking for that, but at the end of the day, if we had to settle for them under the conditions I've imposed above, I'd be happy that Gainey was at least clearly trying to address an area of concern for the team.

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Peca : There are better alternative on the market.Plus he's not really a safe signing considering his injuries history.

Barnaby : Decent agitator but useless for the rest.We don't need him at all.I'd much rather sign Laperriere instead.

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Peca : There are better alternative on the market.Plus he's not really a safe signing considering his injuries history.
Who are some of th better options? Don't worry, I'm not being a smart ass lol I'm just to lazy to look it up.

I wouldn't mind Peca(for 1.75 or less) for his leadership and grit. If he were to get injured for a few games here and there, maybe it would give Chippy that cup of coffee with the Habs to test himself out, without all the pressure of making him a full time roster player from camp (which I don't feel he's ready for yet).

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I'd rather give ferland (or any rookie) a chance to play in Mtl than having the useless Barnaby.

Barnaby = Downey

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I'd rather give ferland (or any rookie) a chance to play in Mtl than having the useless Barnaby.

Barnaby = Downey
If it comes to a choice between the 2, I agree. I want to finally see what Ferland can give us on a regular basis. I think it's time to test him. If not, let the guy go but in his role, I think it would be a big mistake.

He should have started last year, I believe he should at least get a real chance this year.

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I may take Peca , he will bring leadership . With his injury problem , it could give a good amount of game to Grabovsky or Chipchura .

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I don't believe a word of it.
Might as well have posted the Lafleur and Lemieux are to Join Koivu on the 1st line.

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Who are some of th better options? Don't worry, I'm not being a smart ass lol I'm just to lazy to look it up.
Laperriere , Walz and Smolinski but you may disagree with that.With Lappy you get grit , with Walz you get speed and with Smolinski you get 20 goals per year.All of them are good defensively (3rd line) and not as injury prone as Peca is (which is my main concern).

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a healthy peca is an upgrade over bonk....i take him for the good price
No!! No!!

You're not taking Peca away from us. We want him back!

I believe he'd want to stay in Toronto and take a minor paycut from the 2.5 he made last season. I say he'd agree to a 2 year contract worth 4.2 a season. Last year was unfortunate as he was injured because of a knee on knee. He would have been back for the playoffs but sadly..

Before that he was playing very well. Single handedly killing penalties, and a major reason for Toronto's PK to be one of the better ones in the league. Well, after he went down..it didnt take long for our PK to become one of the worst. Thats how important he is to us. You cant take him away...

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Laperriere , Walz and Smolinski but you may disagree with that.With Lappy you get grit , with Walz you get speed and with Smolinski you get 20 goals per year.All of them are good defensively (3rd line) and not as injury prone as Peca is (which is my main concern).
Yeah! Listen to him, guys!

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a healthy peca is an upgrade over bonk....i take him for the good price
Peca at 2 million could center a good thrid line.
Sammy-Peca-Johnson?

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I like Peca. If he doesn't ask for too much, I think he would be a good addition to the Habs organizatrion.

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Ten years ago, sure. Peca doesn't add scoring or much grit these days, so I don't see how he helps us in our major deficiencies: scoring, grit, size up front. Not to mention he's not a defenseman, which is what we badly need.

Barnaby doesn't bring much discipline to the table and is only a middleweight. I don't trust him.

I say no.

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I wouldn't mind Barnaby.... He's a much better HOCKEY player than Downey or Murray and he's a pretty decent fighter. If he'd come for 500k or less, we'd be fools not too.

As for Peca..... The guy is made of glass and imo we'd be smarter to give the spot to Chipchura (who imo doesn't have anything left to learn in the AHL....he very very rarely makes mistakes).

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If we looking for cheap grit/leadership (3rd line-4th line veteran leadership), then...

Ian Laperriere and/or Martin Gelinas (for 1 year only, of course, and...for the right low price only).


Begin + Laperriere (and/or) Gelinas = great veteran influence for youngsters



p.s.: and I an almost guarantee you that Laperriere and/or Gelinas will be appreciated/loved by Carbo (so that won't ever be an issue...)>

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So it goes ...

Mathew Barnaby and Mike Peca both had a 2006-7 season they'd rather forget.

Barnaby, limited to playing 39 games and plagued with PCS, it's not likely he would consider resuming his playing career ( although he has stated that if things look on the upside this summer, he'd go back to play )
About the same goes for Peca ...

I know Maranero has said there is an interest for these guys here, but I feel it would be a modern incarnation of Dackell and Juneau in a sense ... with more spunk ...

can these guys really bring anything we don't have ?

Peca will be back, guaranteed. He jogged by me with Wellwood the other day while I was walking to work here in T.O. And I would LOVE to see him on the Habs. He looked good though, he was certainly working hard.

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