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05-21-2007, 08:26 PM
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Burke isn't going to sign a 30-year old goaltender for that length of time, nor should he.
Why not? 30 is not old for a goalie. 28-35 is a goalie's prime.

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Why not? 30 is not old for a goalie.
Especially for one who doesn't rely on atheticism and reflexes.

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Especially for one who doesn't rely on atheticism and reflexes.
Just need to look at the other end of the ice to see an older goaltender who does rely on athleticism and reflexes.

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Oh, and I'm totally throwing out Bulin as an anomaly. The only way he got 6.75 was by signing with a suck @ss team. The only reason the Blackhawks paid that is they are a suck @ss team. If Giguere wants 7 million from Florida or Columbus the Ducks can't and won't match it.
But that's what I'm saying. Those kind of teams would break the bank on a guy like Jiggy. Now one could look at the Khabibulin case and say that GM's would be more cautious but Jiggy is a lot younger than Bulin was when he signed with Chicago and is a much bigger reason for his teams success. You think Phoenix wouldn't love to pay as much as they could to get Jiggy? If LA didn't have that sieve signed up for two more years I guarantee they'd throw close to 7 mil for him. It's supply and demand and Jiggy could demand a huge contract and will definitely supply superb goaltending.

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05-22-2007, 09:06 AM
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But that's what I'm saying. Those kind of teams would break the bank on a guy like Jiggy.
You didn't read what I said carefully enough. Its not a matter of will Florida pay Giguere 7 million... does Giguere want 7 million bad enough to play in Florida?

Or would he rather have 5-6 million from a legit cup contender. I would take (only) a million less to play for a good team, but that's just me.

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05-22-2007, 09:33 AM
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You didn't read what I said carefully enough. Its not a matter of will Florida pay Giguere 7 million... does Giguere want 7 million bad enough to play in Florida?

Or would he rather have 5-6 million from a legit cup contender. I would take (only) a million less to play for a good team, but that's just me.
I think a lot of that would depend on the outcome of this run.
We all remember "next year, different result."

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05-22-2007, 12:30 PM
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We all remember "next year, different result."

Dreaming I can say "next year, same result" this summer. Wouldn't that be sweet.

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how they helped him?
interesting to hear that

thanks
From: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_sto...bname=nhl-wild

Giguere was given time off from practice to be with his family last week and did not make the team's trip to close out the regular season.

The Gigueres got the good news after Ducks owners Henry and Susan Samueli helped them consult with leading specialists, including one at the UCLA Medical Center who determined their son could see with his left eye.

''We were extremely grateful to everybody who helped us,'' Giguere said. ''The doctors who took care of him and my wife were the best you could ask for.

''The organization here, everybody stepped up trying to help our son. I must thank everybody that prayed and talked and tried to help us. It was amazing.''

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I think its come down to the gap. Is it 4 vs 7 million? If it is 5 vs 5.5?

If people throw ridiculous money at Giguere I still think we have a 50/50 shot at resigning him, but I wouldn't blame him for walking or for the ducks for letting him walk.

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05-23-2007, 02:40 AM
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I remember last year at this time everyone was so sure that Brygalov had supplanted Giguere as the Ducks goalie of the present and future, and were desperate to see Giguere and his large salary moved. My how things can change in only 1 year.

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05-23-2007, 03:51 AM
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I think that was pure speculation by bandwagon fans and people who didn't know the team well. Most people here knew tha Bryzgalov can be amazing but is still very inconsistent.

I've been in favor of locking up Giguere and trading Bryzgalov for more depth somewhere else since the series ended last year.

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05-23-2007, 09:32 AM
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I think its come down to the gap. Is it 4 vs 7 million? If it is 5 vs 5.5?

If people throw ridiculous money at Giguere I still think we have a 50/50 shot at resigning him, but I wouldn't blame him for walking or for the ducks for letting him walk.
A wild card in this might be what Detroit does with their crease. Assuming Hasek retires, they'll need a goalie and with Babcock there it might be an easy sell by the Wings.

Be interesting to see how this all plays out AFTER the finals.

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With the cap going to about 50 million, it would be feasible to sign Jiggy to a 6 million, 5 year contract. Would it put us in a bad spot with the cap? Yes, but, Jiggy is a great goaltender and room can and should be made for him.

It really is a tough situation though. With Perry, Getzlaf, and Penner needing new contracts soon, Burke is going to have to face some tough decisions for sure.
WHile i am a outside party i wanted to chime in here.
Jiggy is great but i would think that payng him 6M per season is a bit much. I am sure the ducks could sign him for around 4.5

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WHile i am a outside party i wanted to chime in here.
Jiggy is great but i would think that payng him 6M per season is a bit much. I am sure the ducks could sign him for around 4.5
4.5? That's laughable, even for a home town discount. No less than 6, I assure you and now that we are in the finals it becomes even less likely the Ducks will be able to retain him. A lot of teams are going to want his services.

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05-23-2007, 05:26 PM
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You didn't read what I said carefully enough. Its not a matter of will Florida pay Giguere 7 million... does Giguere want 7 million bad enough to play in Florida?

Or would he rather have 5-6 million from a legit cup contender. I would take (only) a million less to play for a good team, but that's just me.

7 mil./touch less to young & upcoming Fla. team where Giggy/Jokinen would be unquestioned team leaders.Not bad selling point (way better then Bulin' leaving cup winner for horrid Blackhawks).

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05-23-2007, 05:51 PM
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4.5? That's laughable, even for a home town discount. No less than 6, I assure you and now that we are in the finals it becomes even less likely the Ducks will be able to retain him. A lot of teams are going to want his services.
I guess a $500,000 raise is the going rate for a goalie who carried you all season with some of the best stats in the league and led you to your second Stanley Cup Finals appearance in four seasons.

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05-24-2007, 04:48 AM
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I think its come down to the gap. Is it 4 vs 7 million? If it is 5 vs 5.5?

If people throw ridiculous money at Giguere I still think we have a 50/50 shot at resigning him, but I wouldn't blame him for walking or for the ducks for letting him walk.
Another thing to think about is what he wants his legacy to be, if he goes to a bad team and takes all that money they may be stuck in mediocrity, or not get to be good for a while. If he stays here with this team and continues to play well for another 4-5 years then he becomes number retired material. Alot may hinge on these next two weeks.

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05-24-2007, 08:39 AM
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7 mil./touch less to young & upcoming Fla. team where Giggy/Jokinen would be unquestioned team leaders.Not bad selling point (way better then Bulin' leaving cup winner for horrid Blackhawks).
Is that the same sales pitch you gave Louongo?

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Is that the same sales pitch you gave Louongo?
Ouch, that's gonna leave a scar.

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4.5? That's laughable, even for a home town discount. No less than 6, I assure you and now that we are in the finals it becomes even less likely the Ducks will be able to retain him. A lot of teams are going to want his services.
I dont know man. maybe 4.5 is a bit low. key work in my eyes is a BIT low. like i sad before i am also a outside party. so i dont see jiggy much. i would think he is worth around 4.5 maybe 5.

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I dont know man. maybe 4.5 is a bit low. key work in my eyes is a BIT low. like i sad before i am also a outside party. so i dont see jiggy much. i would think he is worth around 4.5 maybe 5.
It's incredibly low. He has led this team to the finals for the second time. Not to mention had his best save percentage and GAA in 4 years as well as setting a career high for wins. Anything under 6 is an insult to Jiggy.

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It's incredibly low. He has led this team to the finals for the second time. Not to mention had his best save percentage and GAA in 4 years as well as setting a career high for wins. Anything under 6 is an insult to Jiggy.
I don't seem him taking much less than Brodeur. I'm guessing 5 million 3 years is the minimum.

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I don't seem him taking much less than Brodeur. I'm guessing 5 million 3 years is the minimum.
Considering he got around $5 million for 4 years (?) last time, he'll probably be looking for something above that, cap era or not. He hasn't quite put the team on his back like in 2003, but he's even more established as an excellent starter in the league now, and that will bear significantly on contract negotiations.

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One thing about JS is he is a proven winner and teams are going to pay handsomely for that. Look at how much Marty Turco makes (5.7). He is regarded as a elite goaltender and puts up the numbers to prove it but he can't win. Jiggy can and has and if we win the Cup he'll get close to Khabibulin money if not more. That big shiny cup sways GM's minds more than anything.

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05-31-2007, 01:04 AM
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I know this is unrelated to the starting post but it's about Giggy!

After today's victory against Ottawa, Giggy is the only post-season goalie to have his name in the top 5 for all of the NHL's stats for goalies.
GOALS AGAINST AVG. - 2. 1.75
SAVE % - 3. .9326
WINS - 2. 11
SHUTOUTS - 4. 1
*stats are as of 5/31 at 7:45 pm PDT

Plus, with his many NHL's three stars selections, he is leading with 110 points.
Congrats!


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