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05-25-2007, 09:24 PM
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So you're telling me Markov is worth 4.5.

What do you think Chara is worth then? Honestly.

Because if Markov is only worth 4.5..Chara sure as hell isn't worth 7.
Chara is the most overpay player of the league for the season he give to us.

Like I said on others thread, If markov, McCabe, Chara ect... get that kind of contract IMO its prove this league is pretty weak on elite defenseman lately.

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05-25-2007, 09:25 PM
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As a hab fan, I would be very happy if Markov took this deal, but if i look at it critically, he could get a lot more on the open market.

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05-25-2007, 09:29 PM
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Chara is the most overpay player of the league for the season he give to us.

Like I said on others thread, If markov, McCabe, Chara ect... get that kind of contract IMO its prove this league is pretty weak on elite defenseman lately.
Well atleast you agree that Chara isn't worth 7 million

As for Markov. He's only 28 years old, continues to improve..and is arguably a top 10-15 defenseman in the NHL.

He playes the PP and is a fantastic shutdown/positional defenseman who also chips in offensively.

Montreal would be lost without him in the lineup. And maybe you don't think he's worth 5 million..but to Montreal he is, and I'm sure many teams in the NHL would love to get their hands on Markov for 5 million per season.

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Lowe better offer this guy at least 30 mill for 5 years. He is a stud and I can't believe some of you think this is a good deal for Markov.

It's fine if he like Montreal and wants to remain a Hab, but he can and will get a lot more on the market. He is worth 6.5 easy.
Well for a guy that scores so little and he's not the big point getter, 5 Million a year is pretty great. Markov is about a little better than Phillips and he in turn gets 3.5.

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05-25-2007, 10:04 PM
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Considering what guys like Jovanovski and Kubina got via free agency last season, I'd be pretty surprised if Markov signs this contract (he should be a lock for $6 million). Who knows though, it's entirely possible he likes Montreal enough to take a massive discount.
You'd hope teams had learned their lessons after those two dissasters, but I have a feeling you are right. I see him taking 5.4mil to stay with Montreal.

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05-25-2007, 10:16 PM
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I would laugh for 1 week straight if someone pays Markov $6M.

He should take that offer and run IMO.

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05-25-2007, 11:09 PM
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Well for a guy that scores so little and he's not the big point getter, 5 Million a year is pretty great. Markov is about a little better than Phillips and he in turn gets 3.5.
He did finish 17th in defenseman scoring this year and 20th last year (would have been top 15 if he played the whole year)

You add that to the fact that he is really good in his own end, leads the rush, and eats lots of minutes and you have a very good dman. He is a top 10 dman in the league right now and will get paid like one if he tests the market. I would love to have him for 6 million a year.

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He did finish 17th in defenseman scoring this year and 20th last year (would have been top 15 if he played the whole year)

You add that to the fact that he is really good in his own end, leads the rush, and eats lots of minutes and you have a very good dman. He is a top 10 dman in the league right now and will get paid like one if he tests the market. I would love to have him for 6 million a year.
Markov at the top of his game is almost flawless defensively...he's a great player IMO and while I think that deal is more than fair for Markov, I honestly believe he could get more on the open market if he chose to go that route, you better believe some team would offer him in the close to if not or right at 6M/yr. Defensman who can move the puck up the ice, log heavy minutes, are above average offensively/defensively and can play against opponents top lines game in game out are a hot commodity, GM's are willing to pay the price for dmen like that just cause they're aren't many out there.

For a team that was as bad as Montreal was 5 on 5, Markov maintained a + rating while playing on his team's top pairing is just phenominal. This is where a +/- sign really indicates value.

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05-26-2007, 06:10 AM
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Seems a bit high but hes a great player.... i wonder what this does for Souray.
For what its worth, I remember Souray being quoted (on TSN?) he himself believes Markov is more important/valuable player than himself.

If Markov signed for this amount, and Souray takes the same or even slightly less, there it is possible both remain Habs - when you count Niinimaa, Rivet, Aebischer, Bonk and/or Johnson getting replaced with cheaper/younger players.

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Some bottom of the heap team will throw bigger money at him like the Hawks did with Aucoin and the Blues did with McKee, et al. I would think if Markov's agent countered with 5.5 per over 5 the Habs would jump on it. If not Nassau County is a wonderful place to live, for both or any Markov.

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5 Mile is a good deal for both.

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He did finish 17th in defenseman scoring this year and 20th last year (would have been top 15 if he played the whole year)

You add that to the fact that he is really good in his own end, leads the rush, and eats lots of minutes and you have a very good dman. He is a top 10 dman in the league right now and will get paid like one if he tests the market. I would love to have him for 6 million a year.
My only nitpick with that is I don't really find Markov to lead the rush much. Of course, that's not something that much of anybody does for the Habs, sadly. I think Markov could lead the rush more... whether it would require more green lights from the coaching staff or more confidence on his part, I don't know.

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Lowe better offer this guy at least 30 mill for 5 years. He is a stud and I can't believe some of you think this is a good deal for Markov.

It's fine if he like Montreal and wants to remain a Hab, ...
Which incidently it might be worth pointing out (again) that he has been quoted numerous times as saying is precisely the case. Of course, we've been very well conditioned in recent years to not treat such claims from players as gospel, by any stretch. But my gut feeling on Markov, based on what we think we know of his personality (quiet, low-profile guy), is that when he says something like that, he's at least more likely to mean it than most.

I will be surprised if Lowe or anybody else gets a chance to offer Markov anything. Even if he doesn't take this offer (if this offer even exists), the Habs still have over a month to negotiate. They're not going to let him walk over a $1M discrepancy (like some GMs would ).

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05-26-2007, 08:57 AM
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Markov should not sign this deal. He is the best d-man on UFA market this season. He will sign for 6m. Probably?

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I believe you will see Washington offer considerably more than that on July1.....
In order for the Caps to attract anybody to that organization they will have to massively, massively overpay.

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05-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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In order for the Caps to attract anybody to that organization they will have to massively, massively overpay.
He's great friends with Ovechkin and that might be a reason.

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RDS is saying that his agent Meehan is saying that there is a LOT of work to do in the negotiations .

I hate Meehan . This guy is to hockey , what a mafioso is to Italy.

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In order for the Caps to attract anybody to that organization they will have to massively, massively overpay.
Says who?


They might have to spend a bit more... but lets not kid ourselves. Playing time, a top rate practice facility (which is probably a toss up between LA and Dcs as to the best in the NHL), a young team on the rise, and the ability to play with some budding stars will be attractive to a few players on the market.

In order to lock up the top players in the market, most teams will have to overpay. That is how free agency works. But saying the Caps will have to "massively, massively overpay" to get anything done is foolish.

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very true for that reason alone i want him to take that deal.
i think he is the best all-around UFA dman this year...i would rather pay him $6MM then souray or timmonen

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For what its worth, I remember Souray being quoted (on TSN?) he himself believes Markov is more important/valuable player than himself.
It was in the Gazette, actually.

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http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/229786.html

It's in french, but it just means that RDS has learned that the Habs put an offer on Markov's table. The offer is worthed a bit more that 20M$ over 4 years.

I feel Markov is worth that and if he hits the market he would get 6M$ from some teams. I hope he re-signs.
I guess the NYRs really weren't responsible for all those stupid contracts in the pre-lockout NHL because too many teams in the post NHL lockout era are offering stupid contracts without the NYRs submitting a bid.

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According to Meehan Markov did not recieve a 20 million dollar offer.

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the other thing to consider is the high taxes in quebec. a 5 mill offer there is a 4 mill in florida, texas, or alberta

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According to Meehan Markov did not recieve a 20 million dollar offer.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source

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