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05-28-2007, 01:12 PM
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Do you guys want Forsberg back?

or has that ship essentially sailed....

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Not as the top line center.

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If it doesn't prevent us from signing other free agents, then yes.

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If it doesn't prevent us from signing other free agents, then yes.
Yeah thats pretty much it. We have bigger fish to fry then Peter Forsberg, but if he doesnt prevent us from uh, frying those fish, then yeah i see no reason why i shouldn't want him back.

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If he wants to be a 2nd line center at no more than $3M/yr.


I don't think he's coming back.

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Yes, even as a first line center. Don't tell me someone else can produce more? There was nothing wrong with that line when he played.

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Yes, even as a first line center. Don't tell me someone else can produce more? There was nothing wrong with that line when he played.
Exactly.

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Yes, even as a first line center. Don't tell me someone else can produce more? There was nothing wrong with that line when he played.
That, my friend, is the problem

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only if he agrees to take a pay cut and take the 2nd line center job

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only if he agrees to take a pay cut and take the 2nd line center job
Then who is your top center? I still dont think Carter and Gagne work together. Not to mention the fact that you are then putting your two best goal scorers on the same line.

IF Forsberg comes back I say it is as 2nd line winger with Carter and Upshall.

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#2 center with a base of say 1.5 with incentives for games played then I would take him back. no way can anyone justify giving him a base of 5 million anymore.

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Yes, but only if he takes a paycut.

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Then who is your top center? I still dont think Carter and Gagne work together. Not to mention the fact that you are then putting your two best goal scorers on the same line.

IF Forsberg comes back I say it is as 2nd line winger with Carter and Upshall.
That's why no one is saying they want Forsberg back, generally Flyers fans feel we need to sing a top line center with playmaking skills. Forsberg can't be counted to play a full season (or close to it) so we need to look some where else. If we can sing another guy to center the top line, and a another defenseman and still have the money for Forsberg then great. I would be happy to see him play on Carter's wing. Other wise it's just to much of a gamble.

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#2 center with a base of say 1.5 with incentives for games played then I would take him back. no way can anyone justify giving him a base of 5 million anymore.
I like this idea.

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That, my friend, is the problem (when he plays)
It doesn't matter if he plays or not. There are two points going around here.
1) Not as a first line center
2) Pay

While I agree that his pay should be a factor due to his injuries, where he plays shouldn't matter so much. When he played he produced big numbers. Therefore, he's fine on the first line. When he's injured, someone else plays there. He deserves the spot when he's healthy but maybe not the big contract.

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It would have to be in a reduced capacity. There can't be a dependency on him by his teammates where if he is out for a significant amount of time it impairs their collective psyche.

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how quickly they forget

How quickly you people forget how bad Carter and Forsberg played together. Carter was a non factor playing with Forsberg for some reason. We need someone who passes as good as Forsberg though.
Hell we need to practice and teach passing to the whole lot of them because it's one of the most important part of the games and most needed I believe. Buffalo looked fast because passes were crisp, fast, and accurate so the plays were faster then the defense could set up to defend against. Passing makes the difference in many aspects of the game, and workign on it can stop those frequent cough ups.

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There's no doubt in my mind that Gagne and Forsberg would be re-united, even if Peter takes a paycut, and even if Briere or someone else is signed as well.

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if he comes cheap enough for us to afford signing briere, as well...

top line of briere - forsberg - gagne

would be wicked awesome (spent the weekend in boston)...

if forsberg misses his 30 games we can slide briere to center...

realistically, no ... guys wait around to see if he's healthy night in & night out....sucks out the teams energy

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Do you think he's worth an extra million to "keep" him from signing with ...say The NY Rangers or the Pens?

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It doesn't matter if he plays or not. There are two points going around here.
1) Not as a first line center
2) Pay

While I agree that his pay should be a factor due to his injuries, where he plays shouldn't matter so much. When he played he produced big numbers. Therefore, he's fine on the first line. When he's injured, someone else plays there. He deserves the spot when he's healthy but maybe not the big contract.
My point is that we he is not reliable at this point in his career, and you basically saw a team that had a weight lifted off its shoulders when he was traded. To be successful, you cant have a #1 center who is going to play 50 games, and be himself in 35 of those. There were many games he played in which he looked like crap, and that is hard to say about him.

If he has solved his skate problem, sure. I dont want to pay anymore then around $3 million for him, and I dont one him to be the focal point of the team. Outside of that, he can play anywhere.

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How quickly you people forget how bad Carter and Forsberg played together. Carter was a non factor playing with Forsberg for some reason. We need someone who passes as good as Forsberg though.
Hell we need to practice and teach passing to the whole lot of them because it's one of the most important part of the games and most needed I believe. Buffalo looked fast because passes were crisp, fast, and accurate so the plays were faster then the defense could set up to defend against. Passing makes the difference in many aspects of the game, and workign on it can stop those frequent cough ups.
They only played together for a short period of time, so I dont think we can say they played bad together, plus Carter was on the wing, and he just did not look comfortable there. Although, I have come around to thinking Carter doesnt need a playmaker like Forsberg since he likes to hold onto the puck. I think Carter needs to play on an LOD type of line, a line that doesnt have a pure passer, but one which has balanced players that can all cycle the puck and dig it out of the corners.

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How quickly you people forget how bad Carter and Forsberg played together. Carter was a non factor playing with Forsberg for some reason. We need someone who passes as good as Forsberg though.
Hell we need to practice and teach passing to the whole lot of them because it's one of the most important part of the games and most needed I believe. Buffalo looked fast because passes were crisp, fast, and accurate so the plays were faster then the defense could set up to defend against. Passing makes the difference in many aspects of the game, and workign on it can stop those frequent cough ups.
That was because Carter didn't adjust well to playing the wing. But Forsberg did play the wing some times on the Avs, and I think he could do it again. However, I really don't think he'll be back.

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he wont play in the NHL anyway. but if he did i would sign him as the number one center. if he playes the season we make the playoffs. if not then we get a good pick. i think the market would be beter for a our permenant number one guy next year, this is my arguemnt for that.

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