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05-31-2007, 10:22 AM
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Lecalvier + Drury/Gomez/Briere ????

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"I listened to WIP Sports Radio, Glen Macnow said that the latest rumor out there was that the Flyers will entertain offers for their second overall draft pick and the rumor has it that they would make a swap of a player and the second pick for Vinny Lecavalier. At the same turn, still shooting to sign a free agent like Drury, Gomez or Briere".

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from a cap perspective, that doesn't make a ton of sense in the long-run. Vinny is going to command close to max salary most likely, and none of those other players are going to come cheap... i also would be shocked to see them trade Vinny just because they've built that team around him so much it would be a major hit marketing wise.

Richards makes more sense, but there's a time-limit on that happening.

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Isn't Lecavalier going to be a UFA next season? You'll need to pony up in the trade and then really pony up for an extension. Given where your organization now, does it really make sense to have a star in the prime of his career when all the kids are still a few years off? I'd go for the free agent route (nothing lost) and slightly cheaper options in Gomez, Briere or Drury.

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Isn't Lecavalier going to be a UFA next season? You'll need to pony up in the trade and then really pony up for an extension. Given where your organization now, does it really make sense to have a star in the prime of his career when all the kids are still a few years off? I'd go for the free agent route (nothing lost) and slightly cheaper options in Gomez, Briere or Drury.
it's not as if Vinny is exactly going to be out of his prime by the time this team hits its stride with all the youth... he's only 27. lets say it were to take 3 years for everyone to start finding themselves, he's still only 30.

i'm unclear on how many years he has left, but you'll be paying whenever that comes around for sure... i don't expect Vinny to go anywhere unless they have to down there.

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the new york post had a story a few days ago that the lightning were indeed shopping around richards. it is more likely we would go after/get him with our 2nd pick and then go after gomez/briere/drury and a top D-man like timmonen ... all of those additions would be very welcome by me

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it's not as if Vinny is exactly going to be out of his prime by the time this team hits its stride with all the youth... he's only 27. lets say it were to take 3 years for everyone to start finding themselves, he's still only 30.

i'm unclear on how many years he has left, but you'll be paying whenever that comes around for sure... i don't expect Vinny to go anywhere unless they have to down there.
I know he won't be old, old, but it just seems like a bit of a waste to have a 100 point scorer at max salary on a young team that's going to be full of rookies, with no defense to speak of. I'm sure he'd provide leadership and such, but depending on his extension, he'll either be close to another extension by the time the Flyers hit their stride again. Also, a trade involving the 2nd pick, maybe Carter, Giroux or Richards or Pitkanen or whatever's going to set the Flyers rebuild back a bit too. Also, I'd hate to see my favorite player in Philly..

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For what it's worth, last week Jay Feaster was on XM radio and said that he'd just met with ownership and thought they'd be able to keep their big 3 intact (Vinny, St. Louis, Richards).

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For what it's worth, last week Jay Feaster was on XM radio and said that he'd just met with ownership and thought they'd be able to keep their big 3 intact (Vinny, St. Louis, Richards).
i dont believe a word that comes out of that marshmellow mans mouth.

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i dont believe a word that comes out of that marshmellow mans mouth.
There were press reports last week that their payroll at least stays at 44 million and that it possibly rises if the team performs well.

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i dont believe a word that comes out of that marshmellow mans mouth.
I hear ya! Just passing along what I heard.

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the new york post had a story a few days ago that the lightning were indeed shopping around richards. it is more likely we would go after/get him with our 2nd pick and then go after gomez/briere/drury and a top D-man like timmonen ... all of those additions would be very welcome by me
Richards is the most overrated player in the league.

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I hear ya! Just passing along what I heard.
haha i know..

i just dont like that guy.

I met him for a second when he brought the cup to hershey, PA. i went to go see it, Feaster was taking pictures along side of people who came to see the cup.. i of course was wearing Flyers gear all over.. and when each person got to the front of the line someone asked if you wanted Jay in the picture with you and the cup. Just about everyone did, except for me. When it was my turn, i of course told Feaster I didnt want him in my picture, and in an attempt to poke fun, in a really lound voice so everyone could hear he says, " OH, Of course the Flyers fan doesnt want a picture with me."

me, being the nice guy i am just leaned over to him and said, "your smarter than u look, its nice to meet you. "

he took it in good humor, and so did i, so i got my picture taken, shook hands with him and left. that was my only encounter with him...but, i still am not a fan of the guy at all. just from evaluating the moves he makes and seeing the way he goes about things. Im glad hes not GM of the Flyers..thats for sure.

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haha i know..

i just dont like that guy.

I met him for a second when he brought the cup to hershey, PA. i went to go see it, Feaster was taking pictures along side of people who came to see the cup.. i of course was wearing Flyers gear all over.. and when each person got to the front of the line someone asked if you wanted Jay in the picture with you and the cup. Just about everyone did, except for me. When it was my turn, i of course told Feaster I didnt want him in my picture, and in an attempt to poke fun, in a really lound voice so everyone could hear he says, " OH, Of course the Flyers fan doesnt want a picture with me."

me, being the nice guy i am just leaned over to him and said, "your smarter than u look, its nice to meet you. "

he took it in good humor, and so did i, so i got my picture taken, shook hands with him and left. that was my only encounter with him...but, i still am not a fan of the guy at all. just from evaluating the moves he makes and seeing the way he goes about things. Im glad hes not GM of the Flyers..thats for sure.
he's a dumba** that stumbled into a cup and it's justifying everything he's done down there... i'm sure he's a nice guy, i assume most of those folks are, but his decision-making is rather remarkable if you look at it on the whole.

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haha i know..

i just dont like that guy.

I met him for a second when he brought the cup to hershey, PA. i went to go see it, Feaster was taking pictures along side of people who came to see the cup.. i of course was wearing Flyers gear all over.. and when each person got to the front of the line someone asked if you wanted Jay in the picture with you and the cup. Just about everyone did, except for me. When it was my turn, i of course told Feaster I didnt want him in my picture, and in an attempt to poke fun, in a really lound voice so everyone could hear he says, " OH, Of course the Flyers fan doesnt want a picture with me."

me, being the nice guy i am just leaned over to him and said, "your smarter than u look, its nice to meet you. "

he took it in good humor, and so did i, so i got my picture taken, shook hands with him and left. that was my only encounter with him...but, i still am not a fan of the guy at all. just from evaluating the moves he makes and seeing the way he goes about things. Im glad hes not GM of the Flyers..thats for sure.
I totally agree. He's on XM quite a bit and he just loves to talk and talk about what a great job they're doing down there. Nice move brining in Denis, his fat contract and his 3+GAA and sub .900 save Pct. for Modin and Norreana. Maybe he will trade Vinny to us (and no, not Prospal!).

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from a cap perspective, that doesn't make a ton of sense in the long-run. Vinny is going to command close to max salary most likely, and none of those other players are going to come cheap... i also would be shocked to see them trade Vinny just because they've built that team around him so much it would be a major hit marketing wise.

Richards makes more sense, but there's a time-limit on that happening.
Not sure if the rumor meant we wanted to get Vinny AND sign a center. Then we'd be in the same boat as the Lightning were.
Just makes sense that we pursue Vinny/Richards while at the same time trying to sign a #1 center cause in this league, you can't just sit on your hands, hope a deal goes through, and go to plan B if it doesn't work out. All the top free agents will have signed by then.

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Tampa Bay is going to trade a 50 goal scorer in his prime for a draft pick. Brilliant.

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Tampa Bay is going to trade a 50 goal scorer in his prime for a draft pick. Brilliant.
which is why any thought of acquiring Lecavlier is foolish. the 2nd overall and another player for Lecavlier? I hardly think so. The Flyers would have to dig much deeper then that, dig deep into the nice pool of prospects they have worked hard to attain, and I just dont see it happening. I would be against any thought of trading several picks and prospects for Levalier or Richards. keep the picks and prospects and take your chances in free agency.

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which is why any thought of acquiring Lecavlier is foolish. the 2nd overall and another player for Lecavlier? I hardly think so. The Flyers would have to dig much deeper then that, dig deep into the nice pool of prospects they have worked hard to attain, and I just dont see it happening. I would be against any thought of trading several picks and prospects for Levalier or Richards. keep the picks and prospects and take your chances in free agency.

Take your chances in free agency? Lecavalier is proven. I'd give the second and carter, for example for Lecavalier. The guy dominates a game like only a few can do. You don't take a chance when he has proven himself for years in the NHL and on team Canada. If we can get him, get him. Richards can stay put though.

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Richards is the most overrated player in the league.
That statement has about as much truth as me saying "I can play hockey like Mario Lemieux"

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which is why any thought of acquiring Lecavlier is foolish. the 2nd overall and another player for Lecavlier? I hardly think so. The Flyers would have to dig much deeper then that, dig deep into the nice pool of prospects they have worked hard to attain, and I just dont see it happening. I would be against any thought of trading several picks and prospects for Levalier or Richards. keep the picks and prospects and take your chances in free agency.
I am fine with keeping the picks and taking chances on free agency. If we do that though, 1) I would like to trade down with Edmonton and see if we can get an extra pick or player and pick Gagner, and 2) If we dont end up with one of the big free agent centers, what do you propose as the solution? Do we go with Carter, Potulny, Richards down the middle, or try to get a cheaper short term replacement?

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Richards is the most overrated player in the league.
Oh, boy, here we go...

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Tampa Bay is going to trade a 50 goal scorer in his prime for a draft pick. Brilliant.
well, if he's traded for salary reasons... then you can't receive a lot of salary in return. only reason to trade ANY of the big 3 is because they can't afford them on their club. therefore, a slew of picks begins to make a ton of sense in a deal.

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which is why any thought of acquiring Lecavlier is foolish. the 2nd overall and another player for Lecavlier? I hardly think so. The Flyers would have to dig much deeper then that, dig deep into the nice pool of prospects they have worked hard to attain, and I just dont see it happening. I would be against any thought of trading several picks and prospects for Levalier or Richards. keep the picks and prospects and take your chances in free agency.
I do not think it is possible to get LeCavalier (it would be nice) but Clarke did trade with Tampa and now we have Pitkanen.

Pitkanen, Frank, Sanderson and 2nd and over all for LeCavalier? Would it do the trick? Or Flyers would need to add a center?

(not because I do not like Joni) Maybe Coburn/Picard can step in?


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I do not think it is possible to get LeCavalier (it would be nice) but Clarke did trade with Tampa and now we have Pitkanen.
And that has anything to do with the present situation how? Clarke's no longer our GM, and we aren't trading for a top 5 draft pick... we're trading for one of the 5 best players in hockey; needless to say, the price is a tad steeper. All the Lecavalier talk is tiresome already... it's not happening, people, so it's best really not even to think about it.

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Take your chances in free agency? Lecavalier is proven. I'd give the second and carter, for example for Lecavalier. The guy dominates a game like only a few can do. You don't take a chance when he has proven himself for years in the NHL and on team Canada. If we can get him, get him. Richards can stay put though.
im not saying he isnt proven. he is, i would rather take my chances on Briere or Gomez then trading away several picks, Downie, Nodl, Giroux ect.
Your willing to destroy our prospect depth for a proven center when we can get one on free agency without parting with our top prospects.
Lecavlier would cost 1 or 2 first rounders and 2 at least of Downie, Nodl, or Giroux or maybe even Parent.
No thanks.

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