It was Willie Daunic and he said nothing of the sort. Vanek is only hearing what he wants to hear.
What else is new. In his mind, 30 year arena leases are not unlike car leases, and you can simply "pay your way out," regardless of what the city wants.
The city said they weren't sure about buying up tickets on a shortfall. Whatever "DJ" that you can't even name doesn't have his facts straight, either. Go to the Tennessean's website and read about the ticket drives that are on-going right now, the corporate leaders, spearheaded buy Sommet's Brian Whitfield, who are actively campaigning the business community to buy corporate packages with what they feel as "a realistic goal" of 3000 tickets, which would all but ensure the attendance figure is met. If there's a lease, there is no "buying out of it." Balsillie could try to break it, and find himself in court in a battle he has no hope of winning. That "law of the land" you sang and danced about would see to that.
Just curious how the average taxpayer would react in Nashville to the city buying up excess tickets? Things like that can be boons or breaks for the currently elected civic government.
In Edmonton the average taxpayer (in a city filled with hockey fans) doesn't want taxpayer money involved in an arena deal for the Oilers. (At least so far, before the screws have been turned). There has always been heavy reluctance in Canada to taxpayer dollars helping out existing teams in almost every market I can think of and at all levels of govt.
Just curious how the average taxpayer would react in Nashville to the city buying up excess tickets? Things like that can be boons or breaks for the currently elected civic government.
In Edmonton the average taxpayer (in a city filled with hockey fans) doesn't want taxpayer money involved in an arena deal for the Oilers. (At least so far, before the screws have been turned). There has always been heavy reluctance in Canada to taxpayer dollars helping out existing teams in almost every market I can think of and at all levels of govt.
Thoughts?
well, it depends on how much needs to be made up. But...again, that really depends on if it gets that far. To my surprise, SO FAR, this seems to have lit a fire under Nashville's hindquarters as a wake-up call. I don't think some people realized how dire things could be until it came to this, like, "Hey, if we don't act, we could LOSE THE TEAM." I've heard people that have NEVER been to a game thinking of season tickets simply on the basis of, "They won't get away with this!!!" from a pride standpoint. That alone won't get it done, but it's a big start.
Just curious how the average taxpayer would react in Nashville to the city buying up excess tickets? Things like that can be boons or breaks for the currently elected civic government.
Thoughts?
My thought is that the money the city of Nashville, not just the downtown area bars and restaurants, will lose if the team is moved will be much more than any money needed to buy excess tickets.
Not to mention the view of the city will be changed too, although many outsiders already view Nashville as a joke.
still dont know how they'll maintain a new arena with like 12 fans and 8988 family members of devils players and staff attending reglar season games...
although the devils have astrong fan base, like you guys, but i never understood the low attendance in NJ (can somebody shed some light?)
btw if you guys move it would of been nice to see you in winnipeg or quebec...
i'm not to sure about hamilton...at the same time not completely against it
no matter what happens though...
for all you guys that supported your team...you guys were great fans
Side note...for those bashing canada getting more teams...
if 6 teams bring in 40% of revenue...what do you think 8+ would do..
lets see more revenue = more money to go around to other teams that are struggling in some cities with good fan base...
i'm not saying that Canada is saving the game here...just that we're as part of it as the states
Six teams equal 40% of revenue.
Eight teams will equal 40% of revenue.
"It is a religion in Canada. It is what we live for."
CBC will air one team less because it is airing another team more.
The revenue is not about ticket sales. It is about TV contracts.
Hamilton did the exact same thing in the early 90' in hopes for an expansion team...
I think one thing that it does show is that the people of Hamilton are more likely to support an NHL franchise than people in usual expansion/relocation markets, because they've actually put their money where their mouths are (twice).
Much harder to make that commitment than to simply answer "Yeah, I'll go see the NHL" during a marketing survey phone call.
I'm not saying they should necessarily get the Predators, but I think they should get a team during the next round of expansion if they don't. In fact, I think this type of pre-selling deposits should be done in all candidate expansion cities to properly gauge fan support before granting franchises.
Bettman and the owners don't give a squat about the fans.
It's all about the bottom line --- cash is king and the NHL is a business.
It's a true shame how big league sports are no longer are about the game and all about the almighty greenback...
I hear what you're saying, and hate seeing any team moved, but how can you say that? When a team consistently loses money year after year - you're right, the NHL is a business. These guys have invested more money than most of us can dream of in these teams - and they have the right to want to make a return on their investment. It's not a charity.
The city said they weren't sure about buying up tickets on a shortfall. Whatever "DJ" that you can't even name doesn't have his facts straight, either. Go to the Tennessean's website and read about the ticket drives that are on-going right now, the corporate leaders, spearheaded buy Sommet's Brian Whitfield, who are actively campaigning the business community to buy corporate packages with what they feel as "a realistic goal" of 3000 tickets, which would all but ensure the attendance figure is met. If there's a lease, there is no "buying out of it." Balsillie could try to break it, and find himself in court in a battle he has no hope of winning. That "law of the land" you sang and danced about would see to that.
The guy I was talking about is Willy Daunic, and he knew his stuff, and the city apparently has no intent to buy up the tickets (according to him). He also seems right on top of the corporate thing, and apparently there has been no action yet, just talk of action.
Leases work like this, if both parties decide they want out (based on whatever agreement) its over, theres no issue at all if both parties decide they want out. Thats were buying his way out can come in, if he offers the whole value of the lease upfront with a little bit on top, he's probably out of it. He would only have to break it if the other party refused any and all offers.
I think one thing that it does show is that the people of Hamilton are more likely to support an NHL franchise than people in usual expansion/relocation markets, because they've actually put their money where their mouths are (twice).
Much harder to make that commitment than to simply answer "Yeah, I'll go see the NHL" during a marketing survey phone call.
I'm not saying they should necessarily get the Predators, but I think they should get a team during the next round of expansion if they don't. In fact, I think this type of pre-selling deposits should be done in all candidate expansion cities to properly gauge fan support before granting franchises.
The Predators did the same thing, to ensure they'd get a franchise during the 96-97 expansion.
The guy I was talking about is Willy Daunic, and he knew his stuff, and the city apparently has no intent to buy up the tickets (according to him). He also seems right on top of the corporate thing, and apparently there has been no action yet, just talk of action.
Leases work like this, if both parties decide they want out (based on whatever agreement) its over, theres no issue at all if both parties decide they want out. Thats were buying his way out can come in, if he offers the whole value of the lease upfront with a little bit on top, he's probably out of it. He would only have to break it if the other party refused any and all offers.
Not if the lease specifically says that there is no buyout, and that as long as the lease is in effect, the team MUST PLAY in the Sommet Center, which it does.
And Willy Daunic is kind of a lovable fool in Nashville. He's come a LONG way from when he first became the Predators post-game reporter, but I can guarantee you that he's not as knowledgeable about this or anything as to what you're giving him credit for. He only knows what the papers say...and did he say that season ticket renewal is on pace for where it was last season? Because it is, and that's not including the "accelerated pace" packages were selling at, at the end of the season. Businesses and corporate ticket sales might not be showing right now..but give it time. It's only been a week since Whitfield\Sommet and his group announced their plan to make it happen.
"It is a religion in Canada. It is what we live for."
CBC will air one team less because it is airing another team more.
The revenue is not about ticket sales. It is about TV contracts.
You do know CBC isn't the only broadcaster of NHL in Canada, right? There's lots of room for expansion in all the network schedules. And more teams means more opportunities for regionalized coverage. 8 teams in Canada all playing eachother on a Saturday could simply mean 4 regionalized feeds. If a team moves to Winnipeg, and previously not many people in the city were tuning in, and now suddenly they are, that's potential for more revenue.
Not if the lease specifically says that there is no buyout, and that as long as the lease is in effect, the team MUST PLAY in the Sommet Center, which it does.
Honestly, what's keeping Balsillie from just breaking the lease outright and settling the matter in/out of court with Metro? I know Bettman says he can't break the lease but what power does Bettman have? Will Balsillie do what Al Davis did and attempt to steamroll past the league?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Hamilton Preds were in place this year. That's how little I think of Bettman at this point. His incompetent brand of leadership has never been more evident than now. Clearly the only thing supporting the weight of his upper body is his starched white shirt because we know he has no spine.
As a former Expos fan, I really feel you guys. Loving a team full of young talent without knowing if the team will still be there when these guys are gonna be at their peak sucks. Being teased like that sucks. The league should get involved. Saying that this was not even talked about at the BOG reunion yesterday is such a joke. Bettman must be ******** his pants as of now.
Fact, if we sell 14k seats, the team will remain in Nashville.
Is there anything restricting Balsillie raising the average Nashille ticket price of $40.78 to Montreal/Boston-level of $56? Buy 14K of those tickets and I bet the Preds won't be losing money.
Is there anything restricting Balsillie raising the average Nashille ticket price of $40.78 to Montreal/Boston-level of $56? Buy 14K of those tickets and I bet the Preds won't be losing money.
I've read in a couple of places that the ticket prices are locked for at least this year. Down the road, I suppose he could do that.
