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06-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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Worst 100+ point season

Just curious who you all think the worst player to ever have a 100+ point season are/were?

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Joe Juneau?

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Joe Juneau?
That's a good one.

Maybe Rob Brown as well.

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Jacques Richard. 103 points one year no more than 43 any other year. Juneau is a steallr pick too.

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Jacques Richard. 103 points one year no more than 43 any other year. Juneau is a steallr pick too.
Good call. I am guessing Richard was on a line with Rookie Peter Statsny that 50 goal and 100 point year?

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PlayerPos."HHOF Monitor" PointsMax PTS
Jacques "Comet" Richard LW172,00103
Mike "Bucky" Rogers C249,50105
Rob "Brownie" Brown RW276,50115
Guy "Gramps" Chouinard C290,50107
Paul Maclean RW313,50101
Blaine "Stash" Stoughton RW313,50100
John Cullen C317,00110
Bob "Mac The Knife" Macmillan RW342,00108
James "Jimmy" CarsonRW349,00107
Mike "The Bullet" Bullard C365,50103
Barry Pederson C370,00116

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Good call. I am guessing Richard was on a line with Rookie Peter Statsny that 50 goal and 100 point year?
Richard was a talented player who quickly fell in with the wrong crowd early in his NHL career and got caught up in drugs and booze. Apparently when he ended up in Quebec (his hometown) he actually briefly managed to clean himself up. It didn't last long before he fell back, but that season was a glimpse at how good his career could've been.

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ovechkins rookie season.


his last in the triple digit club.

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Jimmy Carson for me. Lazy, crappy attitiude, point hog, the whole package.

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Richard was a talented player who quickly fell in with the wrong crowd early in his NHL career and got caught up in drugs and booze. Apparently when he ended up in Quebec (his hometown) he actually briefly managed to clean himself up. It didn't last long before he fell back, but that season was a glimpse at how good his career could've been.
Richard was the first name that I thought:

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Miscellaneous: Named to left wing position by Canadian Hockey League when it released its all-time QMJHL All-Star team in 1999. ... Became active in old-timers' hockey after his retirement. ... Sentenced to seven years in prison after pleading guilty to bringing more than five pounds of cocaine from Colombia to Canada on Feb. 13, 1989. He was arrested by Canadian customs officials at the Montreal airport after they found the 80 percent pure cocaine in the bottom of his golf bag. The cocaine's estimated street value was $1.5 million. ... Killed in automobile accident late in the evening of Oct. 8, 2002, when his car struck a culvert near Issoudun, Quebec.

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PlayerPos."HHOF Monitor" PointsMax PTS
Jacques "Comet" Richard LW172,00103
Mike "Bucky" Rogers C249,50105
Rob "Brownie" Brown RW276,50115
Guy "Gramps" Chouinard C290,50107
Paul Maclean RW313,50101
Blaine "Stash" Stoughton RW313,50100
John Cullen C317,00110
Bob "Mac The Knife" Macmillan RW342,00108
James "Jimmy" CarsonRW349,00107
Mike "The Bullet" Bullard C365,50103
Barry Pederson C370,00116
I don't think John Cullen ever hit 100 points...at least not according to hockeydb.com

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I don't think John Cullen ever hit 100 points...at least not according to hockeydb.com
1990-91 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 65 31 63 94
1990-91 Hartford Whalers NHL 13 8 8 16
TOTAL 78 39 71 110

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I don't think John Cullen ever hit 100 points...at least not according to hockeydb.com
He hit 110 the year he was traded from Pittsburgh to Hartford, 94 with Pittsburgh and 16 with Hartford.

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PlayerPos."HHOF Monitor" PointsMax PTS
Jacques "Comet" Richard LW172,00103
Mike "Bucky" Rogers C249,50105
Rob "Brownie" Brown RW276,50115
Guy "Gramps" Chouinard C290,50107
Paul Maclean RW313,50101
Blaine "Stash" Stoughton RW313,50100
John Cullen C317,00110
Bob "Mac The Knife" Macmillan RW342,00108
James "Jimmy" CarsonRW349,00107
Mike "The Bullet" Bullard C365,50103
Barry Pederson C370,00116
Can't comment on them all. But guys that played in the mid-late 80's. Brown - Very talented offensive player. Greatly benefited from playing with Mario. Stuck around seemingly forver in the AHL and occasionally in the NHL. Always could score to a degree in the NHL but must have been massively negligent in non offensive parts of the game. IMO he could have got 50-60 points on any team his whole career at a minimum. The fact he stayed in the AHL so much shows his limitations.

Cullen - Was a very good player who had one great year with good linemates. Good playmaker. Cancer hurt his career.

Carson - Explosive player that just was not that interested in playing NHL hockey. Could have been a regular 85-105 point 40 goal scorer for a dozen years if he wanted to be great. He didn't. At the start of his career he was even with Robitaille. If he had the desire and interest in being a great NHL player and goal scorer he could have had a similar career.

Bullard - Good player on Calgary. Was a very good player for a long time.

Pederson - Awesome before his injuries in Boston. Without the injuries he would have been a near 100 point guy for a lot more years.

Maclean - 100 points was his peak. But he was a very good goal scorer for a long time. A reliable 30 goal scorer. Hawerchuk's longest and most talented Winnipeg linemate. Though he was not super talented.

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the unheralded Mike Rogers had three 100 pt seasons, so really shouldn't be on that list.

Jacques Richard gets my vote. sad ending there.

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ovechkins rookie season.


his last in the triple digit club.
your posts just get better and better..but yeah probley someone who played with lemieux in the 80s.

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If Anton Stastny ever hit the 100 point mark it would be him.

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Not sure I'd include Carson, the fact that he hit the mark twice elevates him above the rest.

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Can't comment on them all. But guys that played in the mid-late 80's. Brown - Very talented offensive player. Greatly benefited from playing with Mario. Stuck around seemingly forver in the AHL and occasionally in the NHL. Always could score to a degree in the NHL but must have been massively negligent in non offensive parts of the game. IMO he could have got 50-60 points on any team his whole career at a minimum. The fact he stayed in the AHL so much shows his limitations.

Cullen - Was a very good player who had one great year with good linemates. Good playmaker. Cancer hurt his career.

Carson - Explosive player that just was not that interested in playing NHL hockey. Could have been a regular 85-105 point 40 goal scorer for a dozen years if he wanted to be great. He didn't. At the start of his career he was even with Robitaille. If he had the desire and interest in being a great NHL player and goal scorer he could have had a similar career.

Bullard - Good player on Calgary. Was a very good player for a long time.

Pederson - Awesome before his injuries in Boston. Without the injuries he would have been a near 100 point guy for a lot more years.

Maclean - 100 points was his peak. But he was a very good goal scorer for a long time. A reliable 30 goal scorer. Hawerchuk's longest and most talented Winnipeg linemate. Though he was not super talented.
I think Carson was a tad slow but he coulda been.... I agree on Pederson who was an extremely intelligent and gifted player. His best years were when he was 20-22 years old prior to the bicep tumor. He did not have the dimension that Neely provided but Neely never had 100 points.

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As far as I can tell, Brent Sutter is the only player to have recorded a 100-point season who never had another season over 70 points. Amazing thing is that he hit 100 points in game 68, and then got injured shortly afterward. Could've had 115 points that year if he'd stayed healthy - shows what a talent Bossy was.

Bob MacMillan was a 60-65 point player who never recorded more than 71 points other than his 108-point season. Jean Pronovost and Paul MacLean never cleared 80 points otherwise, either.

All very solid players, but those are the guys whose 100-point seasons are the biggest outliers from their regular production.

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Rob Brown.

Career point totals:
'88 ... 44 pts
'89 ... 115 pts
'90 ... 80 pts
'91 ... 58 pts
'92 ... 47 pts
'93 ... 7 pts
'94 ... IHL
'95 ... IHL
'96 ... IHL
'97 ... IHL
'98 ... 40 pts
'99 ... 24 pts
'00 ... 23 pts
'01 ... IHL
'02 ... AHL
'03 ... AHL

Brown played for Pittsburgh in the late 80's ... my memory is fuzzy, but it seems like there was another Pittsburgh player who might have helped to inflate the stats of his teammates ...

The Penguins should be proud that they rediscovered this guy after he spent his "prime" playing for the Kalamazoo Wings and the Phoenix Roadrunners. Nicely done, Penguins.

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Can't comment on them all. But guys that played in the mid-late 80's. Brown - Very talented offensive player. Greatly benefited from playing with Mario. Stuck around seemingly forver in the AHL and occasionally in the NHL. Always could score to a degree in the NHL but must have been massively negligent in non offensive parts of the game. IMO he could have got 50-60 points on any team his whole career at a minimum. The fact he stayed in the AHL so much shows his limitations.

Cullen - Was a very good player who had one great year with good linemates. Good playmaker. Cancer hurt his career.

Carson - Explosive player that just was not that interested in playing NHL hockey. Could have been a regular 85-105 point 40 goal scorer for a dozen years if he wanted to be great. He didn't. At the start of his career he was even with Robitaille. If he had the desire and interest in being a great NHL player and goal scorer he could have had a similar career.

Bullard - Good player on Calgary. Was a very good player for a long time.

Pederson - Awesome before his injuries in Boston. Without the injuries he would have been a near 100 point guy for a lot more years.

Maclean - 100 points was his peak. But he was a very good goal scorer for a long time. A reliable 30 goal scorer. Hawerchuk's longest and most talented Winnipeg linemate. Though he was not super talented.
There is just no way that Cullen belongs on that list. The guy was a really good playmaker and was gritty as hell. While I would never say that he was in the Ron Francis league, it kills me as a Pens fan that he was traded in that cup year because of the heart he brought to the team.

After having that big year with Recchi and Stevens he played for some really bad teams before having the cancer. At his best thought I would take him before Janney and a ton of other players that had multi-100 point seasons.

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Rob Brown.

Brown played for Pittsburgh in the late 80's ... my memory is fuzzy, but it seems like there was another Pittsburgh player who might have helped to inflate the stats of his teammates...


I don't know why but I always liked Robbie Brown. Gotta give it up for #44. Go to the net and wait for Mario to pass you the puck. That's how you score 115 points in a season.

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Dennis Maruk was the worst player to ever have a 130+ pt season. His career year of 60 goals and 136pts are as high as Guy Lafleurs. This would be the equivalent of a guy like Mike Ribeiro suddenly becoming a top 10 scorer in the NHL.

As for 100+ pt guys, Richard clearly stands out from the rest. At least Juneau had a decent NHL career and was a pretty good checking line forward towards the end.

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